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RadEd \|	Rolls and breakfalls < on 9/18/2003 7:25 PM >

	Sometimes I end up in positions where I have to jump from a high place and stay in one piece, which is not always easy. Especially when jumping to someplace hard like concrete. I try to roll to dissipate the force, but the initial impact still hits my feet hard. Does anyone have any tips on doing smooth falls?

Jester location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight... \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 1 on 9/18/2003 7:29 PM >

	You need to absorb as much of the initial impact with your knees before going into the roll. You do need to be carful, you can break your heel if you impact too hard... It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.

Chainsaw This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. location: Underground, Colorado Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 2 on 9/18/2003 9:13 PM >

	Get yourself signed up for a Judo class - you'll never worry about falling or landing again... Quid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.

The Lost Flock location: Montreal, QC Gender: Male baaah. \| \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 3 on 9/18/2003 9:41 PM >

	I've never been in any kind of martial arts class, and I know how to land and roll just fine. All you need is to go to your local playground and climb up to progressively higher shit and jump off, get used to how it feels, and figure out how high you have to roll from, and figure out your own way of rolling. It's all experience. -The Lost Flock The Lost Flock is finding it's way. Scaffolding is like monkey bars for adults.

Chainsaw This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. location: Underground, Colorado Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 4 on 9/18/2003 10:06 PM >

	When I took Judo for the first 6 weeks that's pretty much all we did - fall down - it really helps - that and getting up - lots of falling down and getting up... Quid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.

DarkTreader Gender: Male \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 5 on 9/19/2003 5:47 AM >

	I'd definitely agree with Cmdr. Chainsaw. I was in about 9 months of Judo and I'm comfortable falling from just about any height (that's not gonna kill me from the impact alone) - at least enough that I don't think I'll injure myself horridly. Two the major things that it teaches you, that most people don't realize when falling is 1) relax your body as fully as possible, that way the impact is spread throughout your body, not just whichever point hits first, and 2) slap the ground with your hands as you hit. I know, it sounds stupid, but its one of the first drills you learn. After a while, it comes naturally, and you find that, even when a 6'5" guy scoops you up over his shoulder and chucks you practically across the room, you can land properly and make yourself 'bounce' off the ground with just the counter-force that you apply. Proof that this works: My Judo instructor has been doing this for about 14 years now. He got in a motorcycle accident about 3 years ago where he was launched over the handlebars. Because he was so used to doing it, he relaxed and tucked into a shoulder roll as soon as he hit the pavement, and rolled for about 25 feet before coming to a stop. The cycle was trashed, but he walked away from the wreck with just a couple of bruises. Just some advice. footsteps light, flashlights bright -~ DT Losers go home... winners go home and fuck the prom queen

Mancubus \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 6 on 9/19/2003 6:42 AM >

	Buy "The worst case scenario survival handbook" and "The worst case scenario survival handbook; Travel" All kinds of neat roll techniques in those. It even teaches you how to jump from rooftop to rooftop. Heh.

Chud

Try a 211, you'll just get 187'd...

Re: Rolls and breakfalls
<Reply # 7 on 9/19/2003 8:53 AM >

Posted by DarkTreader
Proof that this works: My Judo instructor has been doing this for about 14 years now. He got in a motorcycle accident about 3 years ago where he was launched over the handlebars. Because he was so used to doing it, he relaxed and tucked into a shoulder roll as soon as he hit the pavement, and rolled for about 25 feet before coming to a stop. The cycle was trashed, but he walked away from the wreck with just a couple of bruises.

Yeah, well Jester did that same thing almost... My Jester could beat up your Judo guy

Nobody will not agree with the Russians, ever on anything.
-Kimmo

Jester location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight... \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 8 on 9/19/2003 2:48 PM >

	I'm too lazy to rewrite this, so I cut it from my original post about this in another thread... Well, I have done a fair amount of falls/landings actually. I've wiped out on My Ninja ZX-6 doing about 60, had the bike flip and I had to launch off at the top of the flip, the bike clipped me in the knee as it flipped again (but at least i didn't end up under it). So I flew at high speed for about 20 feet, and came down legs first, bending alot to absorb the impact, then breakfalling over basically in a slightly sideways somersault and was back on my feet before the bike finished bouncing and flipping. I had to quickly step back a few feet as the bike was bouncing towards me... The only injury was some swelling in my knee, but that was from the bike hitting me, not from the actual landing. I used that example, because it illustrates how the technique thats been described works. I had a lot of momentum but by using my legs as initial shock absorbers then rolling with the rest, it took me through it safely. Same principle is used when you fall or jump. Practice small jumps to get used to absorbing the impact with your knee bends mostly. Practice breakfalls from standing, then from a bit higher, etc. When you're good at them, you'll be able to make pretty quiet landings, and most important , injury free landings... Funny, my wipeout was about 3 years ago too... It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.

Mochi location: West Jordan, Utah Gender: Male Stare deep into a kitty's nose. \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 9 on 9/19/2003 4:08 PM >

	(JOKE!) As an alternative, you could just explore whilst wrapped in layer after layer of bubble wrap. That way, if you have to drop from ANY height, you'll just land softly and make a really funny sound in the process. (JOKE!) >_< Mochi, you're an idiot if you'd really try it. JESUS SAVES!!! (And then he redeems his tickets for free prizes!)

Jester location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight... \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 10 on 9/19/2003 4:14 PM >

	Mochi... After Pixie fell in a pit onto jagged rocks (yes, it really happened) and cracked her ribs, I thought about making a bit of body armor out of things, so when she fell (as she is wont to do) she would have some protection... The idea never actually got past my holding some bubble packing up to my side and saying "yeah, this would be kinda neat" though... It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.

j0lt

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Kobe, Japan
Gender: Male

Re: Rolls and breakfalls
<Reply # 11 on 9/19/2003 4:56 PM >

Posted by Jester
so when she fell (as she is wont to do)

You used 'wont' in a sentence - 10 points!

Back to the subject at hand:
www.urbanfreeflow.com is the main Parkour page, and it has a decent tutorial on rolling from a fall/jump.
As I've stated before, I've been training in ninjutsu for the past 8 or 9 years, and we do a LOT of rolls/breakfalls, many martial arts teach it, and it's a good skill that everybody who does this should have.
(not to mention my belief that everybody should learn to defend themselves)

j0lt: Larger than life and twice as ugly!

The Lost Flock location: Montreal, QC Gender: Male baaah. \| \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 12 on 9/20/2003 4:25 AM >

	I'm actually exceedingly interested in learning a martial art, and am planning to begin Kung-fu in early october with my friend who is a blackbelt and teacher of kung fu. Hoping to pick up some good self-defence and such useful things as better faling, etc. -The Lost Flock The Lost Flock is finding it's way. Scaffolding is like monkey bars for adults.

MacGyver location: St Paul, Minnesota Gender: Male "Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater" \|	Re: Rolls and breakfast <Reply # 13 on 9/20/2003 6:25 AM >

	This doesn't apply at all, but when I first saw the name of this thread, I thought it said "Rolls and breakfast". My poor overworked brain. Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine "If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent."

The Lost Flock location: Montreal, QC Gender: Male baaah. \| \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 14 on 9/20/2003 7:20 AM >

	hahaha! So did I the first time, I thought he meant rolls as in buns. Man, now I'm hungry... I wish I had some rolls with my breakfast. -The Lost Flock The Lost Flock is finding it's way. Scaffolding is like monkey bars for adults.

Freak location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male Hypocrite \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 15 on 9/20/2003 11:04 AM >

	geeze, I did too, I think we all have lysdexia or something Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137

Chud Try a 211, you'll just get 187'd... \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 16 on 9/20/2003 1:20 PM >

	Yeah, me too. And it does make me hungry. Nobody will not agree with the Russians, ever on anything. -Kimmo

uem-Tux Iron Wok Jan location: Montreal Gender: Male UE Geek \| \| \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 17 on 9/20/2003 6:21 PM >

	It's baecuse most of us parse words by looking at the very beginning and the very end, and "breakfall" is a less common word than breakfast. An inetrseting experiment to try is to scrmable the letters in the mdldie of a wrod and see if you can still raed it easliy. Most of the time you can. Urban Exploration Montreal Why are you the way that you are?

The Dark One

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Montreal, Quebec
Gender: Male

Twist

Re: Rolls and breakfalls
<Reply # 18 on 9/20/2003 7:22 PM >

Posted by uem-Tux
An inetrseting experiment to try is to scrmable the letters in the mdldie of a wrod and see if you can still raed it easliy. Most of the time you can.

I saw this in another board:

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

*** MsMaul was kicked by MsMaul (I didn't eat enough bagels!!!!111)

Chud Try a 211, you'll just get 187'd... \|	Re: Rolls and breakfalls <Reply # 19 on 9/20/2003 8:14 PM >

	Heheh, our pshycology teacher just passed that out, last class. This one chick took about five minutes to get through it, and still didn't understand what it was about... Nobody will not agree with the Russians, ever on anything. -Kimmo

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