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T-mac
 
location:
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 60 on 1/11/2007 3:42 PM >
|  | | | every time im in an older building, thats abandoned that is.
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Deuterium
    
location:
PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: When do you use a respirator?
<Reply # 61 on 1/11/2007 4:38 PM >
| | | | Too often. Whenever I suspect asbestos, rat urine (if you smell the piss, you're inhaling piss covered dust which is nasty in itself and possibly have hanta virus)
or if there's a large amount of dust.
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c1rc4
location:
Northern Virginia
Gender: Female
| | Re: When do you use a respirator?
<Reply # 62 on 1/12/2007 5:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by Clockwork
The answer to your question is NEVER.
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Agreed, I've never used one. Thought about it, but figured it looked more sketch like that then to just wonder around. Maybe it's the fact I know my family gets diseases and I'm bound to get some type of cancer, maybe I should know better because my uncle had lung cancer due to asbestos. I'll die one day, if it's because of that, at least it'll be an interesting one.
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blackhawk
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location:
Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 63 on 1/12/2007 5:35 AM >
| | | | Posted by c1rc4
Agreed, I've never used one. Thought about it, but figured it looked more sketch like that then to just wonder around. Maybe it's the fact I know my family gets diseases and I'm bound to get some type of cancer, maybe I should know better because my uncle had lung cancer due to asbestos. I'll die one day, if it's because of that, at least it'll be an interesting one.
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My kind of babe. I've worn lots of them, and not few just a few fibers here and there. I hate them, can't use my viewfinder right and cops think your a terrorist on a mission. Guess it's like sex; somethings are better a little dangerous.
I like that moldy smell that lingers for days in your sinuses!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Glass
  
location:
Chicago
as one does
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<Reply # 64 on 1/12/2007 7:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
Guess it's like sex; that moldy smell that lingers for days in your sinuses!
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Had to do it.
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tron_2.0
location:
Ohio
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 65 on 1/12/2007 9:59 PM >
| | | | i like to be ultra safe and choose not to wear anything while exploring!
[quote][i]Posted by yokes[/i]
I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing.
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trevelyan
location:
Sonoma County
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 66 on 3/26/2007 3:50 PM >
| | | | I see everyone talking about what masks to wear to filter out asbestos, and other particulates, but I've seen very little about PCBs. The places I've explored have warnings about PCBs in all the buildings, so I've stayed away from those. Would a good P-100 filter help against PCBs, or should I just steer clear of those?
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blacklines
location:
the red stick.
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 67 on 3/26/2007 4:13 PM >
| | | | I could be wrong about this, but my intial research shows that OSHA reccomends a supplied air respirator... HOWEVER, they can be absorbed through skin contact, so simply wearing a respirator does not mean you're ok--they could get on your clothes, hands, etc… Once they're on your hands its easier for them to come into contact with mucous membranes where they will be absorbed even more rapidly/efficiently. PCB's are nasty, nasty things--steer clear.
the following seems to be a good reference:
http://copa.org/li...rts/epa/pcbepa.htm
[last edit 3/26/2007 4:23 PM by blacklines - edited 1 times]
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TaP
location:
Montreal, QC
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 68 on 3/26/2007 4:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by trevelyan
I see everyone talking about what masks to wear to filter out asbestos, and other particulates, but I've seen very little about PCBs. The places I've explored have warnings about PCBs in all the buildings, so I've stayed away from those. Would a good P-100 filter help against PCBs, or should I just steer clear of those?
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dont rely on my sole opinion, but as long as you dont roll around on the floor and touch shit then put your fingers in your mouth you could be ok. Just GTFO if ever you experience any dissynes, nausea, heartburn, upstet stomach or diharrea.
[last edit 3/26/2007 7:42 PM by TaP - edited 1 times]
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blackhawk
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location:
Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 69 on 3/26/2007 6:28 PM >
| | | | Posted by TaP
dont rely on mmy sole opinion, but as long as you dont roll around on the floor and touch shit then put your fingers in your mouth you coul be ok. Just GTFO if evern you experience any dissines, nausea, heartburn, upstet, stomach or diharrea.
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PCBs? TaP is right, a filter won't help unless your spraying them into the air...in which case your fucked anyway. PCBs can be absorbed through intact skin. Never burn insulation off windings from a PCB filled tranX either...
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Deuterium
location:
PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 70 on 4/5/2007 4:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by Capone
EDIT: It's also worthy of note that a respirator is not foolproof. If you go tramping around in a bunch of asbestos with a mask then sure you won't breath it in. But what about all the fibres that will stick to your clothes & hair? A mask isn't worth much if you're only going to track all the bad shit back home with you and inhale it as soon as the mask's off. Just something to keep in mind...
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Bringing home asbestos certainly isn't good for you, but you can take reasonable measures like shaking out your outerwear before getting in your car. Also, you won't inhale much asbestos from what you bring with clothing.
If you were to make a bunch of foot powder airborne it would make you cough from normal breathing, but you're not going to inhale anywhere near as much from normal usage. Asbestos are only harmful by inhalation.
Asbestos easily become airborne when settled out particles are disturbed. When you walk on ripped apart asbestos insulation and shattered 9" tiles, particles go up in the air. This is worse in places where these things are scattered about from vandalism.
PCBs are a mixture of non-volatile PCB oils. Your best defense against them is to avoid contact. Don't touch suspected oily stuff and don't let your stuff touch it. If you must walk through oil stained ground near old electrical equipment, cover your soles with heavy gauge bags and leave them behind on site.
If you get any on you, wash off as quickly as possible with soap and water.
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Blackbird
location:
Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 71 on 5/21/2007 2:52 PM >
| | | | Would a U.S M17 duel filter gas mask work? I think it's good for chlorine, nerve gas, and biological agents; it should work for asbestos and other shit I might come across .
I can get it and two extra filters for a bit more than the respirators you use with the N95 filter, it covers the whole face and has goggles.
"Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, and brains save both." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel |
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blacklines
location:
the red stick.
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 72 on 5/21/2007 5:23 PM >
| | | | I dont know if its effective against particulate-I would assume so, but I dont know why youd use that instead of a lighter, less sweaty, not early as nerdy looking p100... its also much more conspicuous and questionable than a respirator, limits your field of vision, and if im not mistaken, the cartridges only last a given amount of time (relatively short compared to the life of a p100...) Remember--its not a Sp3c14l OPZZZ!!! mission--its UE....
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Blackbird
location:
Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 73 on 5/21/2007 8:03 PM >
| | | | Yeah you're right, but I've still been looking for one of these bastards for a while now and I just grasping for a reason to use it. It wouldn't be conspicuous because I've never actually been spotted, I scout most places for days and I usually sneak up to the target. And it has goggles; a lot of stuff gets in through the soft membrane of the eyes, so trust me it's a lot less nerdy looking than a respirator and speedo goggles!
"Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, and brains save both." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel |
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blacklines
location:
the red stick.
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 74 on 5/21/2007 8:07 PM >
| | | | hey suit yourself--you'll never catch me in one unless im being gassed.
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Blackbird
location:
Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 75 on 5/21/2007 8:41 PM >
| | | | Trust me, I need it. One of the places I've gone to (an old radar installation) had PCB pollution and mold on the ceiling that dripped onto the floor forming blobs that looked like beached jellyfish. It just makes me feel one Helluva lot safer. But you're right; to each there own.
Thanks for the input.
"Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, and brains save both." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel |
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Blackbird
location:
Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 76 on 5/27/2007 12:28 PM >
| | | | Although now I've got my hands on a P100 respirator. The only problem is I don't know how to change the filters, and it's light grey and pink; I need to camouflage the thing so it doesn't give me away. I think I'll either cover sections of it in electrical tape if I need to or I'll paint the outside (with a brush!) to cover the bright colors.
"Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, and brains save both." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel |
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LuminousAphid
location:
Lynnwood, WA
Gender: Male
Armchair Explorer
| | | | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 77 on 5/28/2007 8:34 PM >
| | | | Pink is the standard color for P100 filters, unless you want to spend a lot more money on some cartridges that include chemicals to neutralize everything else AND have a P100 grade filter, then those might be gray. I don't think painting over a filter is a great idea myself.
Also, does anyone know if normal P100 filters actually become less effective over time, or do they just become clogged and harder to breathe through? I'm just not sure if mine are still good, as I don't know how much they've been used. I can still breathe through them fine, but that won't help me if the filter actually becomes less effective at filtering. I would assume they would just become clogged and harder to breathe through, but if someone knows, let me know.
"See you guys, you never listen to me. I said there was gonna be trouble but you didn't listen to me. You guys are crazy. You know, you guys are self destructive. There's a funny farm and it has your names written all over it. But I'm gettin' out of here. I'm... I smell ice cream!" |
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Deuterium
location:
PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 78 on 5/28/2007 8:41 PM >
| | | | Posted by LuminousAphid
Pink is the standard color for P100 filters, unless you want to spend a lot more money on some cartridges that include chemicals to neutralize everything else AND have a P100 grade filter, then those might be gray. I don't think painting over a filter is a great idea myself.
Also, does anyone know if normal P100 filters actually become less effective over time, or do they just become clogged and harder to breathe through? I'm just not sure if mine are still good, as I don't know how much they've been used. I can still breathe through them fine, but that won't help me if the filter actually becomes less effective at filtering. I would assume they would just become clogged and harder to breathe through, but if someone knows, let me know.
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You change them when you notice it's harder to breath through or if they get seriously wet.
Do you check for proper fit? Cover the exhaust port and breath out. There should be no leak between the mask and your face.
Posted by Blackbird
Although now I've got my hands on a P100 respirator. The only problem is I don't know how to change the filters, and it's light grey and pink; I need to camouflage the thing so it doesn't give me away. I think I'll either cover sections of it in electrical tape if I need to or I'll paint the outside (with a brush!) to cover the bright colors.
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You're kidding, right? If you paint it, it will make it a lot harder to breath in.
[last edit 5/28/2007 8:46 PM by Deuterium - edited 1 times]
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LuminousAphid
location:
Lynnwood, WA
Gender: Male
Armchair Explorer
| | | | Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 79 on 5/28/2007 8:51 PM >
| | | | Thanks Deut, that's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. And yes, I've read the manual and done all the pressure checks, and it seems to fit fine. I haven't really had to use it yet (except Sat. in the mill, one area just smelled really bad, and my mask made it much better), but I don't want to be up the creek if I need it.
"See you guys, you never listen to me. I said there was gonna be trouble but you didn't listen to me. You guys are crazy. You know, you guys are self destructive. There's a funny farm and it has your names written all over it. But I'm gettin' out of here. I'm... I smell ice cream!" |
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