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Infiltration Forums > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > When to wear a filter (Viewed 8942 times)
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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 20 on 2/1/2006 7:29 AM >
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Posted by pyro2525
Your average mask goes for 50 dollars canadian retail, although you won't die if you go a couple of times to hazardous locations so you have time to scrounge up the money.


Lookin at 29 at Herbies. I'll need a P100 tho.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 21 on 2/1/2006 11:26 PM >
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Posted by Capone

EDIT: It's also worthy of note that a respirator is not foolproof. If you go tramping around in a bunch of asbestos with a mask then sure you won't breath it in. But what about all the fibres that will stick to your clothes & hair? A mask isn't worth much if you're only going to track all the bad shit back home with you and inhale it as soon as the mask's off. Just something to keep in mind...


Thats a good point. Does that stuff come off in the washer???

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 22 on 2/2/2006 6:33 AM >
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Posted by Walking Talking Poison
Thats a good point. Does that stuff come off in the washer???


Well if you do soak it down it won't go airborne as far as I know??

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 23 on 2/10/2006 12:01 AM >
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Well I meant laundering. Yes, when its soaked it wouldnt become airborne. I meant after washing and drying if the asbestos would cling to the clothing and still be there after you washed and dried it. On that note, I wonder if perhaps I shouldnt spray myself down with static guard crap before going in a place, and if it would help or not.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 24 on 2/10/2006 6:30 AM >
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Posted by Walking Talking Poison
Well I meant laundering. Yes, when its soaked it wouldnt become airborne. I meant after washing and drying if the asbestos would cling to the clothing and still be there after you washed and dried it. On that note, I wonder if perhaps I shouldnt spray myself down with static guard crap before going in a place, and if it would help or not.


That's a lot of trouble, but do what you're comfortable with?
As far is if it would help or not, it might--but I don't think some asbestos fibers in your cargos will kill you in your sleep.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 25 on 2/11/2006 3:55 AM >
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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 26 on 2/11/2006 5:14 AM >
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The points about asbestos fibres getting into hair and clothes is an important one that I think people frequently overlook. I rarely wear a respirator (don't even own one at the moment) because if the contamination is high I don't want to be there at all, mask or no mask. If the risk is lower I'd rather go without since I find them incredibly annoying and uncomfortable (that whistling noise makes me crazy!).

The points on other contaminants, particularly gaseous or chemical are important to remember as well. A P100 respirator will not help you if there's toxic gas or displacement of oxygen. Biological hazards are all different as well.

Frankly most of us are not HAZMAT qualified, we're urban explorers. That carries certain risks. Educate yourself as much as you can, and take what measures you believe are required. I will not be surprised if one day I'm diagnosed with a respiratory disease that can be traced back to UE. I've accepted that. I minimize my risks, but I acknowledge that I can't eliminate them.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 27 on 2/11/2006 5:24 AM >
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Posted by Kay O. Sweaver
The points about asbestos fibres getting into hair and clothes is an important one that I think people frequently overlook. I rarely wear a respirator (don't even own one at the moment) because if the contamination is high I don't want to be there at all, mask or no mask. If the risk is lower I'd rather go without since I find them incredibly annoying and uncomfortable (that whistling noise makes me crazy!).

The points on other contaminants, particularly gaseous or chemical are important to remember as well. A P100 respirator will not help you if there's toxic gas or displacement of oxygen. Biological hazards are all different as well.

Frankly most of us are not HAZMAT qualified, we're urban explorers. That carries certain risks. Educate yourself as much as you can, and take what measures you believe are required. I will not be surprised if one day I'm diagnosed with a respiratory disease that can be traced back to UE. I've accepted that. I minimize my risks, but I acknowledge that I can't eliminate them.


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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 28 on 2/13/2006 9:37 PM >
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While I think you're right about that, we should still try to be as safe as we can... obviously, we're not going to wear HAZMAT suits but there are many locations where having a respirator makes a lot of difference. It's worth $50 for a little lung protection, and it certainly doesn't hurt... though mine does after an hour or so, any advice on fitting it properly?

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 29 on 2/13/2006 11:20 PM >
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Posted by kjones
any advice on fitting it properly?


Just do the pos and negative pressure tests. If they show it's sealed it is; you don't need to make it tighter to work better after that point. Instructions for the test are on this site thirty times and come with the documentation for the mask. Essentially: Pos) cover the exhale valve and breath out: if you can, tighten. Neg) cover the filters, breath in air: if you can, tighten.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 30 on 2/14/2006 7:01 AM >
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Wow, this post brought up issues I never even considered. Anyone else paranoid now?
Any suggestions on what to do about hand cover? Are real gloves necessary? Latex gloves cover it? a thorough post-campaign scrubbing? Up to now, the only precautions I've taken are to wear a hat to keep stuff out of my hair, and to minimize physical contact with the environment.
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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 31 on 2/14/2006 6:46 PM >
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Posted by Errant
Wow, this post brought up issues I never even considered. Anyone else paranoid now?
Any suggestions on what to do about hand cover? Are real gloves necessary? Latex gloves cover it? a thorough post-campaign scrubbing? Up to now, the only precautions I've taken are to wear a hat to keep stuff out of my hair, and to minimize physical contact with the environment.
'preciate feedback!


AHH! This is why I hate asbestos posts. It's something that freaks people out... if you're really curious and use the http://www.uer.ca/..._search1.asp?fid=1
search button you'll find a lot of these kinds of threads.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 32 on 2/15/2006 6:24 AM >
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Accept it as a potential hazard or don't explore. Urban Exploration is a stupid, stupid hobby full of risks. Be aware of them, take precautions, but if you want total safety stay at home, turn off the lights and hide under your bed.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 33 on 2/16/2006 7:45 AM >
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Posted by Kay O. Sweaver
The points about asbestos fibres getting into hair and clothes is an important one that I think people frequently overlook. I rarely wear a respirator (don't even own one at the moment) because if the contamination is high I don't want to be there at all, mask or no mask. If the risk is lower I'd rather go without since I find them incredibly annoying and uncomfortable (that whistling noise makes me crazy!).

The points on other contaminants, particularly gaseous or chemical are important to remember as well. A P100 respirator will not help you if there's toxic gas or displacement of oxygen. Biological hazards are all different as well.

Frankly most of us are not HAZMAT qualified, we're urban explorers. That carries certain risks. Educate yourself as much as you can, and take what measures you believe are required. I will not be surprised if one day I'm diagnosed with a respiratory disease that can be traced back to UE. I've accepted that. I minimize my risks, but I acknowledge that I can't eliminate them.



Thanks for all of the help UER. I know some people who have a large ammount of information and material about this subject(HAZMAT & ops). I will see what I can collect, then pdfPrint it and put it up on a torrent. Please be patient though, as If I do find anything I will need to check it's validity as it may be 10+ years old.




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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 34 on 2/18/2006 3:58 AM >
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What sort of filter is best to use for sewering?

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 35 on 2/18/2006 7:09 AM >
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Sewering? Nothing. Particulate matter isn't much of an issue in drains/sewers, what you need to worry about there is gas which is a totally different batch of tomatoes. As always; http://www.urbex.o...oach/approach.html

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 36 on 2/19/2006 1:26 AM >
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Posted by Kay O. Sweaver
I rarely wear a respirator (don't even own one at the moment) because if the contamination is high I don't want to be there at all, mask or no mask. If the risk is lower I'd rather go without since I find them incredibly annoying and uncomfortable (that whistling noise makes me crazy!).



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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 37 on 2/21/2006 2:11 AM >
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personally i hardly ever wear one. i just dont like how you can barely hear anything over your own breathing. when im in a building i want to be able to hear the people im with and all the other possibly important noises. i'll wear my respirator when i know i really need to though.

and another thing. its important to know that those filters need changed fairly often. and you should also keep the filters separate from the mask, and in an airtight container. those filters are always working, even when you're not wearing them. so if you leave them sitting in the back of your car to suck up car exhaust between use, they're not going to do you any good when you wear it into a building.

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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 38 on 2/23/2006 4:00 AM >
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actually, the protection against any fibers or dust will still be effective, but its the organic vapour that would be "expired". i keep my respirator in a sealed bag.


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Re: When to wear a filter
<Reply # 39 on 2/23/2006 3:23 PM >
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If I spy evidence of Asbestos insulation.
If My eyes and mouth start burning, I usually get the hell out of dwelling/abandonement.

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