|
slugsgomoo
Gender: Male
evil mooing slugs
 |  |  | Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
< on 11/7/2005 8:00 AM >
|  | | | I've spent the last couple days looking around for places to go look around, and compiling a list of "possible" "questionable" and so on.
Do you scout out your targets before you go and explore them? Do you just dive straight into things?
If you do scout things out, is it to determine the lay of the situation, difficulty of entrance, security, etc?
If not, do you use scouting simply to find locations to go back to look at later?
Being in the north end of seattle, there is certainly less stuff handy to look around than there is say, in the northeast. Partly because of the shorter history, and partly due to this stupid "urban revival" crap that is renovating all the cool old buildings. ;)
Anyhow, I am going to be heading back down to the shipyards next weekend to check out the stuff that got scouted this weekend, so hopefully some cool shots will be taken.
-andrew |
|
J Marcs
    
location:
Ohio
Gender: Male
| | |  | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 1 on 11/7/2005 8:23 AM >
| | | | I scout 90% of the things I explore. I thinks that's because I mostly do drains. I think it is a really good idea to try to walk the surface route of any drain you want to do if possible. But I pay the most attention to stuff I find at the infall or outfall. I will defiantly do a spur of the moment exploration of a boiler or mechanical room if an open door presents its self. In that case scouting is not practical, that door may never be open again.
|
|
Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
| |  | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 2 on 11/7/2005 9:44 AM >
| | | | I'd say scout as much as you can so you learn if there is security, if cops make that building part of thier rounds.. all that crap.. although drains I wouldn't think you would need to scout for security.. also scouting can let you know what direction to come at the structure from.. Sometimes we scout, others we take a drive or two past to get a general layout then once we are moving on foot at something just go slow stay in the shadows and low.. or if its in the middle of nowhere just park and walk directly to it.. the surroundings and condition of the place say alot about what you are going to run into
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
|
Tupsumato
location:
Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 3 on 11/7/2005 12:54 PM >
| | | | I scout locations that are in a walking (5 km) or cycling (~25 km, but only in summer) distance from my home, but otherwise I'll just go there and jump in.
edit: Of course, if I don't have time to explore but stumble across a new location, I'll just take a couple of exterior shots and come back later, properly equipped for full exploration, like I did with the place I found while visiting my friends in the capital:
[last edit 11/7/2005 1:36 PM by Tupsumato - edited 1 times]
All information and details given in good faith but not guaranteed! |
|
Axle
 
location:
Milton, ON
Gender: Male
Sieg oder Tod
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 4 on 11/7/2005 1:03 PM >
| | | | Really depends on my mood at the time. For the most part I do scout out a location, do some exterior shots, record the address ect. However if I do have my gear with me I'll dive right in.
Scouting is good as it allows me time to show the images off and get a team together to go exploring.
Celer at Audax
Para la Victoria Siempre Alemanes! |
|
HillbillyHorus
 
location:
Charlottesville Virginia
Gender: Male
Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 5 on 11/7/2005 1:04 PM >
| | | | I scout aboveground locations and drains. When I find stuff, it's usually on long bikerides when I don't have any gear, so I spend that time walking the perimeter. If it's a drain, I'll try to follow it from aboveground as best I can, and I may walk in a little ways to see how tall it is or whether it shrinks very soon. For steamtunnels, I try to follow them by feeling grates, etc.
You can't fall off a mountain. |
|
Explorer H
Obla-di-obla-doberator
location:
Around the corner from the Turkey Hill
Gender: Male
I just want some slack.
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 6 on 11/7/2005 2:06 PM >
| | | | I can't imagine not scouting a location before diving in. There are many things to consider. You all listed them. I think scouting is a pre-dive checklist. You should be able to get a good idea of security, where you are gonna park (which, I think is MOST important), possible entry points or exit even.
When in doubt, always scout. Most locations we dive into are new to us, so we usually have doubts, or questions about how to get in, etc, etc. Arm yourself with knowledge, and you will be able to get yourself out of most unwanted situation.
http://doublehmedia.com http://hartmancommercialphoto.com |
|
vwtype3guy
location:
Liverpool, NY
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 7 on 11/7/2005 7:49 PM >
| | | | The way that I usually go about my "scouting" is by simply taking as many pictures as I can of the exterior. I then go home, download them to my computer, and review them. Some of the things I look for are possible entrances, exits, dangers/hazards, as well as the overall location (in relation to the surrounding area). This way, I won't have to remember everything that I saw on my scouting adventure, virtually eliminating the possibility of forgetting important information. Even if I am not able to make it back there for awhile, I still have the comfort of knowing that the pictures are there, ready for a quick review and analysis before the actual exploration.
|
|
aDeLtRiTuS
location:
south australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 8 on 11/7/2005 8:08 PM >
| | | | i like to scout places out first, you normaly find an easy access point.if not il make all the entrance points i need to then go back with out tools,it also gives you a chance to see where you gona put your car where you gona run and meet if it comes to that.there are so many benifits in geting to know the place your going to infiltrate-explore. knowledge is the best key
there is no such thing as death,life is just a dream reflected in the eyes of someone that is truley aware of time |
|
softasylum
location:
Mattaponi, VA
Gender: Female
cancel my subscription to the resurrection
| |  | | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 9 on 11/7/2005 8:32 PM >
| | | | sometimes i scout places first, then other times i just walk right in depending on what it is and how easy the access is and how close to plain sight the location is. i don't want to just pull off on the side of the road for every single abandoned house i find.
i prefer to search for houses that stand out and aren't too boring.
"those who control the media, control the mind" - jim morrison |
|
Explorer Zero
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 10 on 11/8/2005 4:17 AM >
| | | | sometimes I do
planning and probing looking for potential access points is fun in and of itself
sometimes I dont
if the thing seems right I'll just dive in spontaneous like and do it
so the answer is 2 x yes !
|
|
Bry
location:
Goose Creek, SC
Gender: Male
hehe, you looked
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 11 on 11/8/2005 3:05 PM >
| | | | alot of times,i just do things as the opportunity presents it self, but i also mapthigns out w/ google earth,for future sites.
The Decoy till 11-18-2006 |
|
drainpunk
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 12 on 11/8/2005 5:22 PM >
| | | | Usually I'll just go straight into the action. ;) In case it's a construction site, I'll usually circle around the area and try to listen and watch whether there's anyone or not. If things look ok, I'll go in.
|
|
lazeyps2boy17
location:
Moorpark, CA
Gender: Male
Abandoned Grain Elevators? In Buffalo? No Way
| | | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 13 on 11/10/2005 4:38 PM >
| | | | I like to scout out all my locations, to check out the way to get to it, and if there is any security or dangerous hazards, and also to see what equipment is needed for the exploration.
Buffalo is the greatest city known to man and/or woman |
|
Dowcet
location:
Middletown, ct
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 14 on 11/10/2005 6:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by Tupsumato
I scout locations that are in a walking (5 km) or cycling (~25 km, but only in summer) distance from my home, but otherwise I'll just go there and jump in.
edit: Of course, if I don't have time to explore but stumble across a new location, I'll just take a couple of exterior shots and come back later, properly equipped for full exploration, like I did with the place I found while visiting my friends in the capital:
|
THAT is a beautiful photograph!
|
|
res_novae
location:
NoVA
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 15 on 11/12/2005 8:28 PM >
| | | | I tend to at least google-earth the place to get a layout of the land. I also plan on getting a few USGS maps of all the local areas (the HQ is just in Reston, and maps are like $2), just to get ideas of where everything is laid out, and quick places to bolt to in case of emergency. As far as scouting, if its close by I'll go by in the day to check it out, otherwise, I just hope nothing goes wrong or we can get to the car before anyone else does.
|
|
Glass
location:
Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 16 on 11/18/2005 6:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by J Marcs
I scout 90% of the things I explore. I thinks that's because I mostly do drains. I think it is a really good idea to try to walk the surface route of any drain you want to do if possible. But I pay the most attention to stuff I find at the infall or outfall. I will defiantly do a spur of the moment exploration of a boiler or mechanical room if an open door presents its self. In that case scouting is not practical, that door may never be open again.
|
Same here... if they leave a door unlocked you can't bet on it being open ever again!
|
|
SpookyDan
location:
Baltimore, MD
Gender: Male
Reality Hacker
| | | | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 17 on 11/18/2005 6:49 PM >
| | | | I think scouting & reasearch is very important prior to an explore. Not just for security reasons but if you know the history of a place it can be much more interesting and make more sense as you walk thru.
Ill start out just by asking people. There is always someone that knows something about "that place".
Ill then check maps and aerial photos for better information on location and layout. Ill find parking and chart routes to the site here as well. Some people use gps.. i use an aerial map and an old boy scout compass 
Next ill check the property/tax info and see who owns the place and where they live.
The above alone will give you a great amount of information. Next Ill use the previously collected data to google/yahoo search the hell outta the place for every scrap of info I can find.
Last if i think its needed Ill drive by and get realtime visuals and photos, but usually im confident on a place before Ive ever even physically been there.
If security is questionable simply call the company with previously dug up owner info and ask if they are hiring any security guards at this location. They will either tell you there is no security or they have enough and you could prolly ask how many guards they have and get an answer pretty easy.
I fart clouds of asbestos!
www.urbanatrophy.com |
|
aplz
location:
Neo-Berlin (Kitchener)
Gender: Male
When The Detail Lost Its Freedom
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 18 on 11/26/2005 4:52 PM >
| | | | Depends what I'm exploring and when.
Often times I'll be out for a simple bike ride, and so I carry my minimag along incase I find something cool like an open drain or an old building I can pop into. Other times I'll scout it out and come back. It doesn't really matter for me. When it comes down to it, its all a case of whether I want to or not.
Since I'm in Canada I have no need to get armed up with guns, pepperspray, knifes and radios and other useless safety equipment. I can pop right in with a flashlight and nothing else. MacGyver style. Cops aren't a problem cause talking your way out is easy, and if not, its nothing but a simple tresspassing charge - if that. They've got better things to do like bust down heroin dealers and kiddie fiddlers and rapists in Victoria Park.
I've never had a problem with not having scouted first, so I have no real use for scouting, unless the place is active. All I'm doing is walking around an abandoned building, I'm not infiltrating some high secuirity military complex.
[last edit 11/26/2005 4:55 PM by aplz - edited 2 times]
|
|
Persephone
Gender: Female
| | Re: Do you scout things out, or "how important is this anyway"
<Reply # 19 on 11/26/2005 6:39 PM >
|  | | | Scouting is very major. I always tend to worry about being caught and if I don't scout I usually don't go because it seems like I'm not ready.
On the other hand, like someone said when an opportunity presents itself.. I just quickly assess the situation and try to come up with a quick cover story. I usually don't end up going far if it's a big place.
Persephone
|
|
Powered by AvBoard AvBoard version 1.5 alpha
Page Generated In: 187 ms
|
|
Ethics