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Mister Sable
 
location:
Palliser City
Gender: Male
The Man with the Hat (the other man)
 |  |  | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 20 on 11/3/2005 10:54 PM >
|  | | | I bought my grappling hook at a local mall. I kid you not. It folds up and is relatively discrete, until it clatters on a rooftop or a railing.
I had the thing for about two years before it ever came in handy, but it really did come in handy. If we didn't have it, we'd have never seen a third of the block we saw (that was demolished the next day). The guy I was with climbed up to a second story, because I don't do near enough chin ups to lug myself up a rope, and he let me in through a door on the ground floor. Later, we entereed another inaccessible section VIA THE HOOK, through a busted out skylight. I can't say I was near as smooth as, say, Batman, because I ended up crashing into the wall below and breaking my finger and crimping my belt buckle (so tight that I had to cut the belt to get it off). After brushing the glass shards and gyproc bits off myself, I did likewise and let in my accomplice through a ground level door.
But we saw stuff we wouldn't had seen otherwise. It was a good investment. I'd recommend much practice and many chin ups if you're going to use one.
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blacksheep5000
Gender: Male
| | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 21 on 11/4/2005 2:46 AM >
| | | | alright today i went back over to the place, which we figured out to be a 3 story barn/grain elevator of sorts, well we seek over there and ride our bikes through the corn field, which i do not suggest any one plan on doing, we get in there and ive got my nice new home made ascender set up and i throw the hook up to grab on one of the lift buckets about 12 feet up or so in a shaft in the ceiling. well if goes up and it hits the bucket, mind you im just throwing this under hand, and it just breaks. one of the 2 prongs broke right in half in the center. certainly a disappointment, glad it broke at that point though, instead if me being a good 12 feet up falling on to broken concrete. so any one want a free grabpling hook?
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Jester
 
location:
Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 22 on 11/4/2005 6:52 AM >
|  | | | Wow, that's one cheaply made grappling hook.
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Mister Sable
location:
Palliser City
Gender: Male
The Man with the Hat (the other man)
| | | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 23 on 11/5/2005 2:07 PM >
| | | | If you make your own hook, you should really test it very thoroughly before lugging it out into action.
Here's a pic of my store-bought one:
Ouch!
Taken a slit second after busting my finger and crimping my belt. Smooth like crunchy peanut butter, I tells ya. :p
The skylight was entirely broken when we got there. Just before they demolished the rest of the builid, they tore out the glass in the front of the building too - probably for the safety of the guys in the heavy equipment.
[last edit 11/6/2005 5:00 AM by Mister Sable - edited 1 times]
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blacksheep5000
Gender: Male
| | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 24 on 11/6/2005 11:41 PM >
| | | | mine looked just like that, they screw down to make them rigid. and what thickness steel would be a good choice for a homemade one
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 25 on 11/7/2005 1:29 AM >
| | | | that folding one in the pic is the same POS we have as well, somewhere we created a guide on easily climbing a rope, but I would recommend getting descenders and ascenders..
and as far as a home made one, use as thick of steel as you can get away with, since it will be harder to strength test anything you make at home you will just have to somewhat blindly trust it, so make the thing as sturdy and beefy as you humanly can
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Grey_Fox
location:
London, ON, Canada
Gender: Male
I love me...
| | Climbing hooks?
<Reply # 26 on 4/11/2006 8:14 PM >
| | | | Has anyone made a climbing hook? If you have I would like to see a picture, as I have had the pang of genius and decided to make one in my manufacturing class. complete with tempering!!lol!!!!ELEVEN!!!ONE!!!TWELVE!!!
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
| | | | Re: Climbing hooks?
<Reply # 27 on 4/11/2006 10:12 PM >
| | | | what kinda hooks do you mean? like grappling hooks? if so I've been pretty tempted because the only hook that I can really find under $100 kinda sucks, we've deformed a few
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Mr.Coffee
  
location:
Coming to a theatre near you!
Gender: Male
Everyone agrees, I'm Rad.
| | | | Re: Climbing hooks?
<Reply # 28 on 4/12/2006 12:16 AM >
| | | | if you're talking about a grappling/drag hook, one can be made easily using rebar and a welder(assuming you know how/have access to a welder). it'll be heavy, but sturdy as all get out.
you need:
baling wire or tape (to hold the hook together while you weld it, i recommend electrical tape)
a welder (I prefer MIG)
three-pound hammer and a bench vise (optional)
angle grinder (for smoothing welds and making points)
rat tail file (for smoothing the rope/carabiner hole)
one 3-foot piece of rebar for the first two hooks.
you'll also need two one-foot pieces of rebar for the last two hooks. (you can add more hooks, but it gets tricky to weld them all together, and four hooks (one in each direction) will catch just about anything you'd want to climb in the first place.
to assemble:
bend hooks on each end of the three foot piece of rebar, make the hooks facing the same way. do the other hooks now so you can make them the same size.
now, take the piece with two hooks and bend it in the middle, the easiest way to do this is to mark the middle with a piece of tape, and get a friend to help you. place the bar against a sturdy pole or corner, and each of you press his end towards the wall, or each other, hooks facing out. when you're done you want to have half a grappling hook, two hooks facing 180 degrees away from each other, at the same height. while you're bending this, make sure to leave room at the loop end for a carabiner or rope to get through. once the bend is done you can put the hook in a vise and bash the sides together. try and get them to touch if you can, but leave a space at the bottom for the rope to pass through.
once all that is done, grab the tape and the two single hooks. stand the double hook up on a flat surface, and place one of the single hooks against the body of the grapple, hook end oriented 90 degrees to the double hook like this ( |- ) (top-down view)
lightly tape the hook into place at the top.
take your second single hook and place it opposite the first like this ( -|)
lightly tape the top of it into place. now you can position the hooks exactly where you want them, and make them at the same height like this ( -|- )
tape the bottom of the hooks firmly.
once that's done, tack and weld the hooks, let cool.
now, put the grappling hook in the vise, rope end in the vice. use the angle grinder to grind the hooks down to points. (this is tricky, i recommend practicing on a scrap piece of rebar to get the technique down). expect this step to take awhile. wear long sleeves,gloves and a full face mask.
once you're done, i recommend a coat or two of black spray paint, but that's optional as well.
the first one will take awhile, but once you've got it down, you can have one finished and painted in under an hour.
if don't have access to a welder/shop, or you can't weld, pm me.
[last edit 4/12/2006 12:22 AM by Mr.Coffee - edited 2 times]
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Grey_Fox
location:
London, ON, Canada
Gender: Male
I love me...
| | Re: Climbing hooks?
<Reply # 29 on 4/12/2006 1:06 PM >
| | | | Killer, thanks
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Mr.Coffee
location:
Coming to a theatre near you!
Gender: Male
Everyone agrees, I'm Rad.
| | | | Re: Climbing hooks?
<Reply # 30 on 4/12/2006 4:20 PM >
| | | | oh yeah, almost forgot, make sure you test it (duh), and practice with it a lot. when climbing with a grapple, you need to keep constant, smooth pressure on the hook, bouncing it around can cause it to loose it's grip (not what you want to happen when 15' up a wall) also, first person up needs to re-anchor the rope to a secure point for the others. you know how strong the hook is, you don't know how strongly it's attached to something.
other than that, have fun. i suggest you make a couple of these, you will loose at least one in a tree or something.
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junkyard
location:
LaCrosse, WI
Gender: Male
Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat.
| | | Re: Climbing hooks?
<Reply # 31 on 4/12/2006 4:27 PM >
| | | | How many of these threads are there anyway? Knock yourself out, throw it on top a building and hope to hell it holds. On top of most buildings there isn't shit you can rely on anchor wise, especially without inspecting it before climbing, but go for it anyway.
I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner!
Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite.
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WhiteSox
| | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 32 on 4/12/2006 9:14 PM >
| | | | Grappling is sexy. Ninja-style.
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Fort Minor
location:
Vancouver
Gender: Male
Le Parkour + UE: A Winning Combination
| | Re: grappling hooks?
<Reply # 33 on 5/12/2006 1:57 AM >
| | | | Posted by blacksheep5000
alright today i went back over to the place, which we figured out to be a 3 story barn/grain elevator of sorts, well we seek over there and ride our bikes through the corn field, which i do not suggest any one plan on doing, we get in there and ive got my nice new home made ascender set up and i throw the hook up to grab on one of the lift buckets about 12 feet up or so in a shaft in the ceiling. well if goes up and it hits the bucket, mind you im just throwing this under hand, and it just breaks. one of the 2 prongs broke right in half in the center. certainly a disappointment, glad it broke at that point though, instead if me being a good 12 feet up falling on to broken concrete. so any one want a free grabpling hook?
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Posted by WhiteSox
Grappling is sexy. Ninja-style.
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I snatched chains as a kid, made you carry your bike."
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