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Name That Substance
< on 5/5/2005 6:14 AM >
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I'm trying to identify this blood-red liquid:

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It was found in the basement of an old factory, which may or may not have done lead refining as part of the productions going on there. My friend, who was the one who went with me to the site, thinks that it's mercuric oxide, and I was wondering if anyone could either confirm or deny if that could be a possible ID for the stuff.
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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 1 on 5/5/2005 7:25 AM >
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was it on concrete or steel, i cant tell. It might actually be iron oxide, ive seen rust drippings like that before. Was the whole room concrete, or was it under like pipes or old machinery? Just an idea? Murder....;)
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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 2 on 5/5/2005 8:08 AM >
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The two things that come to mind for me are either transmission fluid or tailings, although I don't know why either of those would be in the basement of a factory...

My two cents.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 3 on 5/5/2005 8:18 AM >
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The bins were metal, although I don't know what kind. The bins also had what seemed to be a silverish, metalish solid substance clumped in part of the bin also. As for dripping from pipes, it didn't seem to be under any pipes, and there were several bins with that stuff at the bottom in addition to what was found mixed in with water on the basement floor. I assumed it was some sort of by-product from while the factory was still open. I'm not sure how well the color shows up in the picture, but the stuff was a deep, vibrant red, not the usual color of rust, at least most I've seen.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 4 on 5/5/2005 8:45 AM >
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Posted by Elshar
I'm trying to identify this blood-red liquid:


What did it taste like? Neko.



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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 5 on 5/5/2005 1:02 PM >
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Take a sample.

There are so many students that would love to find out what it is just for the hell of it who have the equipment at their disposal - I'm sure you could find at least one in your area.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 6 on 5/5/2005 3:25 PM >
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Posted by Beryl
Take a sample.

There are so many students that would love to find out what it is just for the hell of it who have the equipment at their disposal - I'm sure you could find at least one in your area.


Exactly what I was thinking. We did that with some water/sludge from an oil refinery here. It was very enlightening...

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 7 on 5/5/2005 4:36 PM >
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Just by looking at it, it looks a bit like rust. It could be a by-product of a chemical reaction between whatever the shiny metal is and the bin too. I'm no chemistry expert so it would probably be difficult to tell exactly what it is from even a first-hand description.

I'd automatically assume it was something dangerous, and proceed as if it were. Even if it is not, you're probably better safe than sorry.

EDIT: Especially dealing with lead, which can sometimes cause health problems.
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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 8 on 5/5/2005 4:41 PM >
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Also, if you can find the site on the EPA Superfund list, that might give you an idea of what it is.

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<Reply # 9 on 5/5/2005 5:42 PM >
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It is some kind of funk, I can tell you that much.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 10 on 5/5/2005 7:56 PM >
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Posted by Watcher

I'd automatically assume it was something dangerous, and proceed as if it were. Even if it is not, you're probably better safe than sorry.



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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 11 on 5/5/2005 8:01 PM >
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Have you tried tasting it?

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 12 on 5/5/2005 8:41 PM >
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Posted by WMcheesemaster
Have you tried tasting it?


I was offered some money to do so, but I didn't feel up to dying that day. It would have probably permanently closed the sight to others too, and I was really only thinking of the other explorers when I turned down the offer.

While exploring we started to find that stuff not only in vats, but also at the end of tunnels, where the smell got very bad and unbasement like, it smelled more like I was back in chem lab, and we started feeling rather lightheaded and such, and soon left because we didn't know what the stuff was. I'm just trying to gather a list of possible hazardous substances at the site, and this seemed to be the last one that I can't identify.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 13 on 5/5/2005 8:43 PM >
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I'd say that looks like rust

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 14 on 5/5/2005 11:41 PM >
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It's obviously the beginnings of some biochemical weapon like THE BLOB and it will soon grow into a humungous badsmelling mass of pure evil.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 15 on 5/6/2005 12:10 AM >
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Well, if it had a strong odour it's unlikely to be mercuric oxide since that's stable at room temperature. It only separates into mercury and oxygen in the presence of light or high temps.

The silvery stuff in the bin looks like lead. Was this factory some sort of refinery? If so, that may be a waste bin of leechate and other metallic impurities.

If it's got a strong smell, it's likely some sort of volatile organic compound, which means its probably very poisonous and generally nasty. If you ever do decide to collect a sample, make sure it's in a glass (not plastic) jar and don't get any on your skin.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 16 on 5/7/2005 10:26 AM >
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if its in an area that has had metal or metal making stuff it could be a sovent used to clean the unwanted stuff out of the metal, like how they used murcury to clean gold (or they did here for a bit). my first thought was that it looked like potassium permangenate but then i remembered that that was purple.

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 17 on 5/9/2005 11:24 PM >
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Start with thinking electroplating vats or as someone else said; solvent tanks; I think gun parts need to be chemically etched before being "blued" or "plated". I spent a good hour trying to figure out the pic from the ldb;

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Re: Name That Substance
<Reply # 18 on 5/11/2005 2:46 AM >
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Oooo. That stuff looks and sounds like it smells exactly like something I found at a flour mill. I came to the general conclusion (though it was strictly a guess) that it was from some sort of sewage tank. It was at the bottom of a concrete tube-like structure. It smelled basic (opposite of acrid) & organic, not like a port-a-potty though. Dark red liquid with yellow froth.

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