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the_dude
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< on 8/7/2003 4:45 PM >
|  | | | i was visiting here a while ago and came across the ttc codes for ie. vandalism, jumpers, clean up crews etc and didnt get the chance to copy them could some one post them for me again thanks.
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NoSuchPerson
     
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<Reply # 1 on 8/7/2003 4:48 PM >
| | | | They usually don't use codes.
The only one you'll likely hear is a Priority One.
That's a person at track level, contacted by a train.
IE, a jumper, or otherwise.
-Ex
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the_dude
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<Reply # 2 on 8/7/2003 4:53 PM >
| | | | dont use number codes like "goshdarnit weve got another 10-15 on the 208"=)
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NoSuchPerson
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 3 on 8/7/2003 6:36 PM >
| | | | Well, they use codes such as:
101-120 - Supervisors
122 - Subway Line Supervisor
199 - Subway Line Mechanic Supervisor
143 - Cheif Supervisor
147 - Fare Supervisor
148 - Transit Patrol Security
201-220 - TTC Armoured Trucks
299 - Subway Line Mechanic
301-310 - Streetcar Track/Overhead Maintenence
506 - Station Janitor
-Ex
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The Divided God
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 4 on 8/8/2003 3:35 AM >
| | | | I think they also call jumpers medical emergencies. A priority one would sound too emergency-like and arouse the suspision of other riders.
Some never participate. Life happens to them. They get by on little more than dumb persistence and resist with anger or violence all things that might lift them out of resentment-filled illusions of security. |
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NoSuchPerson
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<Reply # 5 on 8/8/2003 9:36 AM >
| | | | Negative on that.
When they broadcast information over the PA to customers, it's generally in the form of:
"Attention all passengers on the Yonge University Spadina Subway line, we are currently holding northbound at our St. Clair Subway Station with a medical emergency onboard a train. Emergency crews have been dispatched and we hope to resume normal operation shortly"
Or, for a jumper:
"Attention all passengers on the Bloor Danforth Subway line, we are currently holding service both ways at our Broadview Subway Station with a personal injury at track level. Emergency crews have been dispatched, we expect service to resume shortly"
That's what they use for the PA system. They also broadcast more detailed information on the Wayside, which is what the operators use to talk to Transit Control. It would sound like:
"Attention all operators on the YUS, we're holding northbound St. Clair with a PAA onboard a train, the troups are on the way, stand by for updates"
And a jumper"
"Attention all operators on the BDS, we're holding both ways at Broadview with a Priority One, stand by for updates"
There's also the supervisors radio system that supervisors, Transit Police, etc... listen to. They would sound like:
Transit Control: "143 North, this is transit control"
143 North: "143 North, Yonge and Bloor, go ahead control"
Transit Control: "Would you please attend St. Clair Station northbound,
we have a PAA onboard 15 run, car 5721"
143 North: "Roger, St. Clair northbound, PAA on 15 run, car 5721"
Transit Control: "Roger, thank you. 148 North, this is Transit Control"
148 North: "148 North, go ahead"
Transit Control: "Could you please attend St. Clair station northbound,
we have a PAA onboard 15 run, car number 5721, 143 North
is en-route from Yonge and Bloor"
148 North: "Roger control, St. Clair northbound for a PAA"
Transit Control: "Thank you"
Sorry for the rambling..haha...
But, the only numerical codes you'll hear are actual unit ID's. They don't have some kind of code, like "We have a 219 at Yonge and Bloor" or something like that. They have Priority 1, then they also have Plan A, B, C and D. I've hardlyt heard these used before...they refer to a fire. I believe Plan A is a fire in the station, Plan B is a fire at track level, Plan C is a fire on a train in a station and Plan D is a fire on a train in a tunnel - but I'm not totally sure on that.
Anywho...
-Ex
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sexdwarf
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 6 on 10/23/2003 5:09 AM >
|  | | | I know this is an old thread, but i'm new here and just have to add that in the new york subway system, when there is a delay, medical emergency, or jumper we get messages along the lines of "crackle crackle kerrrr crackle snap pop crackle"....
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NoSuchPerson
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<Reply # 7 on 10/23/2003 1:25 PM >
|  | | | The NYC radio "wayside" system isn't the same as the TTC's...
The In-Car announcements in the NYC system are transmitted over the traction power rail, using the DC voltage as a carrier. Basically, they work the same way as those wireless intercoms you buy and just plug into the wall.
The reason they have so much static is that the connection between the shoe (the contactor for the rail) and the rail itself isn't perfect, so you'll get alot of static, etc...
-Ex
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Rust
 
I am a rustbucket
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<Reply # 8 on 10/23/2003 10:01 PM >
| | | | Really, eh... Why not use an actual radio system? Too expensive? Not practical?
[last edit 10/23/2003 10:03 PM by Rust - edited 2 times]
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NoSuchPerson
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 9 on 10/23/2003 11:12 PM >
| | | | Well, they do use an actual radio system, so the Tower Controllers can talk to the radio crews.
The cost related in fitting every subway car with a radio JUST for announcements would be a very large amount.
When the TTC upgraded from this old form of system, they spend something around the tune of 2.5 million I believe. That doesn't seem like much, but when you consider that the TTC is maybe 5% the size of the NYC subways....
-Ex
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Rust
I am a rustbucket
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<Reply # 10 on 10/23/2003 11:21 PM >
| | | | Quite right. Just what I thought.
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kowalski
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<Reply # 11 on 10/24/2003 12:39 AM >
| | | | What about the codes you often hear like
"299 King, 299 King, please call control."
Is that for a subway mechanic? Because you often hear that over the actual public address. Or at least, it seems like it's coming from the P.A. Maybe it's just some guy who's got his private speaker turned waaaaay up.
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<Reply # 12 on 10/24/2003 3:47 PM >
| | | | Yes they play that over the P.A.
The number codes refer to either a single person or a group/type of person/people.
I don't have the meanings of all the codes, but I think 647 is janitor.
So if you hear "647 Dundas Call Control", the janitor at Dundas should call TTC Main Control.
Sometimes you hear "299 Call control" with no station name, this means either: 1. the person(s) in question are not at a particular station, or 2. this code refers to a single person.
Another way they refer to specific people is via initials, but this is rare to hear on the P.A.
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y2kj5
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 13 on 10/24/2003 4:48 PM >
| | | | Where is "control"? Is it that booth on the Southbound Yonge at Bloor?
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Rust
I am a rustbucket
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<Reply # 14 on 10/24/2003 9:16 PM >
| | | | No. "Control" is TTC Transit Control. Its located in Hillcrest Facility, I believe. Well, it used to be. They built a new one and its close by.
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NoSuchPerson
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 15 on 10/25/2003 12:17 AM >
| | | | Here's some of the more common ones:
135A = Power Control
142 = Subway Route Supervisor (you'd hear 142 at Kennedy or some such)
143 = Cheif Supervisor (143 East, West, North, Central, South)
147 = Fare Supervisor (they use initials - 147 MI, etc...)
148 = Transit Security (148 North, West, South, Central, 1A, 2B, etc...)
199 = Subway Line Mechanic Supervisor
201
to
220 = Fare Collectors (armoured vehicles)
299 = Subway Line Mechanic
301
to
320 = Streetcar Track/Overhead maintenence
506 = Station Janitor
630
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649 = Electricians and Signal Maintenence
828 = Streetcar Switch maintenence
I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but those are the most common.
The ones you're likely to hear on the PA are 299 and 506. When they say "299 queen call control", the line mechanic responsible for Queen should call control. When they call 506 Yonge and Bloor, it means they either need a janitor at Yonge and Bloor, or the guy responsible for Yonge and Bloor should call control.
Transit Control is at 1138 Bathurst Street which is the TTC's Hillcrest yard (and Harvey Shops). The Transit Control arena itself is actually on the south-west corner of Bathurst and Davenport in the semi-round building there. Access is damn near impossible. Here's a few pictures of the TCC (Transit Control Centre):
This is from the inside of the TCC Arena, before all the equipment got moved in.
This is the view of the building from the outside, looking south-west from Bathurst and Davenport Roads.
The part of the center that's raised is called the stage - this is where the "heart" of Transit Control is. This is where the Superintendant sits. The Superintendant is the guy incharge of the entire operation. On the stage, you'll also find Power Control, which is responsible for power all across the entire system. Down on the arena floor, you'll find Hilcrest Tower, whom is responsible for all Subway Operations. There's a few tower controllers here - one for the YUS, one for the BDS and one supervisor. You'll note the Sheppard Line isn't done here. That's done in Sheppard Tower which is on the center platform at Sheppard and Yonge Station.
Also, the CIS, or, Communications and Information System operators are on the areana. During day hours, all CIS is taken care of at the division (Wilson, Eglinton, Malvern, Birchmount, Arrow Road and Roncesvalles all have CIS desks), but at night (past 7pm I believe), Hillcrest takes over all CIS duties, with the exception of Roncesvalles, who does CIS for all the streetcars in the city.
The control station at Yonge and Bloor is a Crowd Control station. That room basically monitors all the cameras at Yonge and Bloor as well as St. George Station. It's only manned during rush hours.
There's also "backup" Control towers at various stations, such as Finch, Eglinton, Yonge/Bloor, St. George, etc... Anywhere that you see a yellow sticker that says "A.P." - that means Auxiliary Panel.
-Ex
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Rust
I am a rustbucket
| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 16 on 10/25/2003 2:33 AM >
| | | | Where would I see these yellow stickers?
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NoSuchPerson
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 17 on 10/25/2003 2:38 AM >
| | | | And....
What's with the endless announcements?
"635, 635, 6 hundred 35, 635 call control 635 please call control" Geeze, it's like they never listen!
And what the F is with that ANNOYING AS SHIT announcement that talks to you like you're a 5 year old? "Help make the TTC the kinder way! Be prepared to offer your seat to seinors, parents with children and people in wheel-chairs. Please stand back from the yellow line until the train has come to a complete stop. And remember, smoking is not allowed in subway stations, inside or outside on bus bay platforms, or anywhere else on TTC property. Thanks for taking the TTC!"
Like, duh, I'm not an idiot.
Anyway.
-"The Safer Way" Ex
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Alpha Husky
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| | | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 18 on 10/25/2003 7:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
And what the F is with that ANNOYING AS SHIT announcement that talks to you like you're a 5 year old? |
Oh yeah? Almost every time I wait for a bus on a subway busbay platform there's people smoking there, directly in front of no-smoking signs.
huskies - such fluff. |
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| | Re: TTC Codes
<Reply # 19 on 10/25/2003 11:49 PM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
Like, duh, I'm not an idiot.
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While that may be the case, some people ARE. Or they're just plain assholes and need to be reminded of that.
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