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Andy "Not Dice" Dice
  
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UE'ing is for pussies, bro.
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< on 4/22/2005 5:21 AM >
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They got cameras on that shit?
The one that I'm looking at, I noticed those dome cameras on the corners of a lot of the huge department stores, but they appear to be for monitoring the parking lot. On the other hand, this is not an assumption that I am willing to make, especially with everybody in terrorist alert mode these days.
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Elshar
 
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| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 1 on 4/22/2005 5:28 AM >
| | | | A friend of mine worked security at a mall, which we were planning do check out before he got hired. After hearing of the security system and the patrols that even go onto the roof we quickly abandoned our idea, though.
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drainpunk
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<Reply # 2 on 4/22/2005 5:33 AM >
| | | | Quite funny that I just two days ago thought the same question. On my way home via foot I walked unplanned way and noticed myself being at the back of one mall. The cool thing is that there's big stairs leading to roof -- and nothing's locked or so on. Well, I thought about checking the roof out but didn't, since it was daylight and the store was open. And yes, there were cameras. But looking their positioning, seems that none can see to those stairs. Seems they're positioned only to keep some doors on eye. And even when I walked on that area, went nearer the stairs and looked around, nobody came to complain.. In case those cameras are real I doubt nobody even looks at them. There's just too much other to watch in big building than some camera behind the house.
I'll either visit there on some night time or some day when it's closed.
Edit: As the post above wasn't posted when I started typing, I didn't see it. So, that's why I add that it can be all different situation here and there. Since nothing dangerous happens here (at least much) I doubt the security is as good as there (in case even there).
Well, do what you can see is safe.
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rade blunner
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Tronno
Gender: Male
Yes, you can
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<Reply # 3 on 4/23/2005 2:52 AM >
| | | | Newer dome cameras can rotate 360 degrees inside the dome, so you never really know where they're looking. I can't really see security drones scanning a roof at night, but you never know, so be careful.
edit: assuming you're talking about a night job - hell, people will probably notice you during the day
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OttoL
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Renob
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<Reply # 4 on 4/23/2005 4:18 AM >
| | | | I recently did some UE on the roof of the casino part of the Sahara in Las Vegas. They had cameras and armed guards... Kinda neat, and got some cool pics of the hotel tower lit up a night.
Not really a mall, but close.
I cant post the pics, since you have to be a "level3???" whatever...
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| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 5 on 4/23/2005 5:49 AM >
| | | | Posted by OttoL
I cant post the pics, since you have to be a "level3???" whatever...
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You can post them on the thread here, in UE Photography, or one of the region-specific boards. They don't have to be in the LDB.
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Bobtheallmighty
 
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gotta climb.
| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 6 on 4/23/2005 5:56 AM >
| | | | I would be less worried about outside cameras because in my experience thay only realy check thoughs if something bad has happened. i would be more worried about motion detectors. I know that most of the large buildings in my area (best buy, the mall ect...) all have motion detectors on the roof.
-bob
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Kakesu
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printf("shiver in eternal darkness/n");
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<Reply # 7 on 4/23/2005 6:22 AM >
| | | | I do this! It's the first kind of exploration I got into, my friend and I (Being lame) referred to it as "Buildingneering". Anyway, mall roofs are a hugely tempting locale, but the cameras tend to be actively monitored as opposed to just played back when there's call to. In England, anyway. Same goes for carparks (Though you've still got the outside to scale.), and high streets. Don't get discouraged though; Cameras rarely point up, if you're inventive you can sometimes find blind routes and then you're home free on vast tracts of fun, fun, roof space.
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Gringo Loco
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<Reply # 8 on 4/23/2005 8:16 AM >
| | | | Why not dress up in overalls and sport a tool belt. Maybe dress up as an exterminator. Or try amussing them and dress up as Superman and run around in front of the cameras claiming to be fighting crime.
"TubGirl is hot."
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Elshar
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<Reply # 9 on 4/23/2005 7:16 PM >
| | | | Posted by KansasCity
Why not dress up in overalls and sport a tool belt. Maybe dress up as an exterminator. Or try amussing them and dress up as Superman and run around in front of the cameras claiming to be fighting crime.
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ME and some friends, who happen to be my UE crew, once dressed up as knights in full cardboard armor, we got kicked out of one mall in less five minutes into our duel, and weren't even allowed into the mall of america. I thought security would at least be amused, I guess I was wrong.
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Andy "Not Dice" Dice
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We can live in dumpsters if we have to, MA
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UE'ing is for pussies, bro.
| | | | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 10 on 4/24/2005 12:30 AM >
| | | | "Buildingeering"
We call it NINJAING, so don't even WORRY about sounding lame!
Ninjaing is actually not just building-climbing, but doing anything that a wicked sweet ninja would do.
But anywho, yes, this would be at night. I'm talking like 3:30 in the morning. We would have to walk across the roof of a raised and covered walkway that connects the parking garage to the mall (since I didn't say the location, I feel pretty safe disclosing our entranceway?)
I considered the dressing-up-like-a-workman thing...but then I thought that anybody who would be watching these alleged cameras should also know if anybody was supposed to be on the roof AT ALL.
Motion detectors, eh? What do you think they would hit us with if we got caught? I know a friend of mine is on probation and isn't allowed out past 5 PM for ninjaing on the roof of a Lowe's Home Improvement, which makes me nervous a tad. I'm not entirely sure if he did anything to upset the police/security that caught him, though.
"ME and some friends, who happen to be my UE crew, once dressed up as knights in full cardboard armor....."
My friend and I had a full out swordfight in the center of town on a busy day (with wooden swords). The cops pulled up and asked us what we were doing, to which we replied "swordfighting...sorry...we'll stop," to which he replied, "haha! nawwwww, you guys are all set, just making sure that there was no real violence going on."
We TOTALLY got permission to swordfight, from the police themselves. Rock and roll.
Edit: fuck not allowing HTML.
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Kakesu
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England. Fun!
Gender: Male
printf("shiver in eternal darkness/n");
| | | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 11 on 4/24/2005 12:44 AM >
| | | | Fantastic! That could well be the worlds coolest cop. Anyhoo, so you definitely have to go past cameras? Maybe a distraction would work. Do you have any friends that would be willing to let off some fireworks in the car park? Let me know if you do do that, I'd give mad props for an infiltration so audacious.
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MrMusik
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<Reply # 12 on 4/25/2005 7:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by blahblahblah
My friend and I had a full out swordfight in the center of town on a busy day (with wooden swords). The cops pulled up and asked us what we were doing, to which we replied "swordfighting...sorry...we'll stop," to which he replied, "haha! nawwwww, you guys are all set, just making sure that there was no real violence going on."
We TOTALLY got permission to swordfight, from the police themselves. Rock and roll.
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lol
Now that is truly awesome! It is also an excellent example of Social Engineering at work. All too often, depending on what you are doing, if you make it look like you KNOW what you are doing and it is perfectly NORMAL for you to be doing it, you can do damn near anything.
"She ain't no Cinderella when she's gettin' undressed, 'cause she rocks it like the naughty Wicked Witch of the West!" -Nickelback -Shakin' Hands-
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Duke
Noble Donor
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Awww-shitby, Ontario
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Move it or lose it
| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 13 on 4/25/2005 11:04 PM >
| | | | If the real malls are too high security, check strip malls. They ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have pipes running up the back that are easy to scale, and very few seem to have put guards over the pipes to prevent such a thing. Hehe, at the mall where I work we have a ladder around back that's probably a good 15 feet off the ground so you an't grab the bottom rung and pull yourself up...15 feet to the right is a big yellow pipe that goes right up to the roof : D Apparently the ladder is one of those ones that'll slide down if you get on it. sounds like fun.
Contrary to popular belief, death isn't just for dead people. I know I was surprised too! It can happen to anybody! Horses, fiddler crabs, even a potato can die! - Tick
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Grey_Fox
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London, ON, Canada
Gender: Male
I love me...
| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 14 on 4/26/2005 8:46 PM >
| | | | anything short of armed guards is nothing if you are a careful urban explorer. (it also helps to know how do Pk too. never know when you might HAVE to make a leap to something 3 plus metres below you. don't ask, long story)
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Kakesu
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England. Fun!
Gender: Male
printf("shiver in eternal darkness/n");
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<Reply # 15 on 4/27/2005 2:36 AM >
| | | | No doubt, but learning to PK roll can wait till the grass dries out a little thanks. : p
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drainpunk
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<Reply # 16 on 4/27/2005 4:55 AM >
| | | | | never know when you might HAVE to make a leap to something 3 plus metres below you. don't ask, long story |
What happened?
Anyways, I'd rather stay out of places guarded that way. Can't dodge bullets.
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Grey_Fox
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London, ON, Canada
Gender: Male
I love me...
| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 17 on 4/28/2005 8:29 PM >
| | | | ok we (my friend and I) were on a rooftop of a mall, when a security guard comes up and is all hostile and stuff. He said we had broken some expensive piece of machinery up on the roof. (not true) and we deny it, he says into his radio 'we've got some trouble makers up here' and he pulls out his twist tie cuff things, so my friend and i just turned to each other and jump off the roof to an adjacent building 3+ metres down/ across a big gap, we land and start to run our asses off. (as we see a cop on the road get out of his car)
we were kinda lucky we didn't break any bones that was the highest i have ever jumped before.
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drainpunk
| | Re: Roofs of malls
<Reply # 18 on 4/29/2005 4:45 AM >
| | | | Woah, I can imagine! Pretty cool jump in not so nice circumstances. Glad you made it out unharmed.
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Duke
Noble Donor
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Awww-shitby, Ontario
Gender: Male
Move it or lose it
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<Reply # 19 on 5/4/2005 3:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by Grey_Fox
ok we (my friend and I) were on a rooftop of a mall, when a security guard comes up and is all hostile and stuff. He said we had broken some expensive piece of machinery up on the roof. (not true) and we deny it, he says into his radio 'we've got some trouble makers up here' and he pulls out his twist tie cuff things, so my friend and i just turned to each other and jump off the roof to an adjacent building 3+ metres down/ across a big gap, we land and start to run our asses off. (as we see a cop on the road get out of his car)
we were kinda lucky we didn't break any bones that was the highest i have ever jumped before.
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I hope you yelled "YAMAKASIIIIIIIIIIIIII!" as you crossed the gap
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