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IvyHaven location: NJ/PA Gender: Male \|	Metal Detecting < on 4/5/2005 6:20 PM >

	http://scottybuck....t.net/crg/look.htm Hmmm...metal detector, looking for coins, what better reason to explore around an old building!

Smash Adams location: VA There's a bomb in the lasagna?! \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 1 on 4/5/2005 10:32 PM >

	I used to go metal detecting with my dad. We mostly did parks, though we'd try the beach every so often. Found a ton of old coins, toy cars, and jewelry. I found a pair of buried shoes once =)

Agent Skelly Web Sheriff location: Oregon Territory Gender: Male Prenez De L'Avance Avec Chrysler! \| \| \| \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 2 on 4/6/2005 4:34 AM >

	I have some good memories of going metal-detecting with my grandfather. We went around my old house in Wisconsin with it and found a fork and knife that dated back when the house was built in the 1930s. We guessed it was from the "workmen".

nd31 \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 3 on 4/7/2005 3:29 AM >

	Not quite the hobby for those of us who disagree with stealing stuff from sites.

TheRev location: Ohio Gender: Male We go in like professionals, like Charles Bronson... \| \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 4 on 4/7/2005 3:49 AM >

	I believe he was inferring that a metal detector would be a good credibility prop. "Officer, I was just looking for buried treasure, and the map says it's 50 paces across the roof of this building"

Ellery location: Virginia Gender: Male Living in the shadows \| \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 5 on 4/10/2005 4:58 PM >

	I'm not trying to start anything, PLEASE believe me, but just want to share a couple of thoughts and a quandry. First, I want to say that I fully agree with not taking/disturbing anything from a site I go to with one exception: I've been in the metal detecting hobby for several years. This area is known for civil war sites and there are some old fields and homesteads that were traveled by the troops back then. Our hobby code (least the club I belong to) states that before we venture onto these places, we contact the property owners for written permission to access the site. We let them know who we are, what we want to do and ask for permission to go on the property and search. We make it clear that we dont disturb the buildings, just the grounds. If we do find something, dig it up, we are careful to replace the disturbed ground as carefully as possible. Many times we offer the owner the items we find, sometimes they accept, sometimes they dont. For me, its a chance when you go to an old homesite and after the exploration of it, you then begin to find out a bit more about who lived there. I never really thought of metal detecting violating the code of urban exploration...I just wonder if the two can really exist or are mutually exclusive. Let me emphasize that the detecting is done only on the outside, the structures are totally offlimits for that purpose. The good thing is, while we have gotten permission to be on the property it affords us time after the detecting is done, to check out the structures, and photograph them at our leisure and with permission... [last edit 4/10/2005 5:02 PM by Ellery - edited 1 times]

Watcher location: Louisiana Gender: Male \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 6 on 4/18/2005 7:45 PM >

	Always wanted to try it, but it sure doesn't look like it would mix well with UE. "Well, let me just jump into my time machine, go back to the Twelfth Century and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophecy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show."

Random location: Richmond, Virginia Gender: Male Partially Retired \| \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 7 on 4/19/2005 5:39 AM >

	I've had people ask to go with me for the purpose of metal detecting, but I did not agree to take them. I have several reasons. I do not believe things should be removed from places I'm exploring. I didn't feel like dragging along people who weren't going to paying allot attention. I've spoken with several people that had no problem letting me poke around their buildings/property but HATE metal detectors.

Ellery

location:
Virginia
Gender: Male

Living in the shadows

Re: Metal Detecting
<Reply # 8 on 4/24/2005 2:47 PM >

Posted by Watcher
Always wanted to try it, but it sure doesn't look like it would mix well with UE.

I'm afraid you're likely right on this. Gonna have to rethink my position on this. I had justified it that we were not doing actual damage to structures, that we were there with the full knowledge and consent of the property owner and that was damage was done to the grounds (digging) was immediately fixed by both careful excavation to start with and replacement of the removed earth.

Oh well, thanks for the thread and for your thoughts....

Duke Noble Donor location: Awww-shitby, Ontario Gender: Male Move it or lose it \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 9 on 4/25/2005 11:28 PM >

	Metal detectors are best left at the beach, but i can see where you're coming from. It's cool that you get the owner's permission, and you're looking for civil war era stuff, which quite frankly probably SHOULD be found and preserved before land gets redeveloped and this stuff is lost forever. As for how it mixes with UE, you're not gonna find anything UEing that you'd find with a metal detector unless you HAVE a metal detector, you won't even know it's there. So it follows that you won't even know it's missing. Too much grey area here, I think my stance is like this: Metal detecting for preservation = good, for personal gain/profit = bad Contrary to popular belief, death isn't just for dead people. I know I was surprised too! It can happen to anybody! Horses, fiddler crabs, even a potato can die! - Tick

Ellery location: Virginia Gender: Male Living in the shadows \| \|	Re: Metal Detecting <Reply # 10 on 4/28/2005 2:56 PM >

	Thanks Duke for the comments and for understanding what our purpose was. Bit of background here... I live in an area rich in civil war history...Richmond, Fredericksburg, Manasass, DC.. Unfortunately the are is exploding in development. There are huge tracts of land which are now being sold to developers. Some of these tracts are where soldiers camped, marched, etc. There have been efforts to save these tracts from development but unfortunately the efforts are too little, to late. One of our group has provided some museums here with relics that he has found on these tracts just before the bulldozers come in. Now instead of forever lost, they are safely ensconced in a museum, or library display. Its there for the public to see and learn from. It's a very gray area, but I do think you've hit on the correct way to determine whether its ok or not...if it is for preserving what would otherwise be lost, then it has value. Thanks for the comments and insight .

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