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jojotheirishkid location: Boone, NC Gender: Male \| \| \|	Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover < on 1/27/2005 10:06 PM >

	Once more, something that I should go out and field test, but... Since there is mostly no point in hacking the sole off a shoe and putting it on the bottom of another, what I am thinking about is a rubber sole with whatever kind of tread that fits over your shoe in a similar fashion to these, but with a solid tread http://www.herringtoncatalog.com/fs311.html You could even implement ninja skills into them and make them a size smaller to throw people off if they investigate your tracks or something. Those by the way, are called Yaktrax and can be found herehttp://www.herringtoncatalog.com/fs311.html Modified: Accursed image posting never works for me. [last edit 1/27/2005 11:03 PM by jojotheirishkid - edited 1 times] Confucius say: "Empty is the mind where the mouth runs free, and yours is like a river"

Mark Very Noble Donor location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole? \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 1 on 1/28/2005 12:01 AM >

	I dont quite understand why yet? Different soles? Well to say the least I know most on here will find this useless. Thats ok though its thinking out of the box. "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles"

jojotheirishkid location: Boone, NC Gender: Male \| \| \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 2 on 1/28/2005 3:45 AM >

	Well, it stems somewhat from watching too much crime television, where many times a suspect is called in because the tread of a shoe he/she owns is found at the scene. what i proposed would mostly be beneficial to those in a position that is they ever had a situation where the tread of their shoe was an incriminating factor, this would fool the accusers (assuming you have enough sense to remove them when done UEing. Heck, you could just use them to replace a worn out sole on your favorite pair of boots, I just proposed a possible use for something like that. Confucius say: "Empty is the mind where the mouth runs free, and yours is like a river"

Mark Very Noble Donor location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole? \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 3 on 1/28/2005 4:00 AM >

	I totally agree. I am suprised you havent gotten flamed to death yet. Personally I go in some active sites and probably wont need them, but it is a idea. "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles"

HairyTheTaco location: The Hammer, Ontario Gender: Male \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 4 on 1/28/2005 5:38 AM >

	There is no sense in bringing all of these "what if..." items unless you really want to carry a big and heavy backpack with you while you explore.

Servo

Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover
<Reply # 5 on 1/28/2005 10:07 PM >

Posted by jojotheirishkid
implement ninja skills

Hobbes location: Finland Gender: Male \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 6 on 2/4/2005 8:12 PM >

	I would bet that if you don't kill anyone or steal a lot of money etc., nobody's interested in your footprints. Yaktrax has metal wire under the sole, so it will make creaking noise when you are walking in paved or other solid surface. Sorry to say but I really can´t see any point in this.

missxmolly location: bostonish mass Gender: Female \| \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 7 on 2/4/2005 9:47 PM >

	it's still going to leave tracks no matter what but I think they are key for running on ice with the extra traction.

Duke Noble Donor location: Awww-shitby, Ontario Gender: Male Move it or lose it \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 8 on 2/6/2005 10:27 AM >

	A cover for the shoes may not be that bad for sites surrounded by soft ground or snow, where visible prints may lead to increased security. Of course for that it would have to be something that would make it look like something other than a footprint. a "ghillie boot" if you will. I've seen hunters use similar things before, though I'm not sure how many deer would recognize a size 12 Terra footprint if they saw one anyway. In any case, something like that could be useful Contrary to popular belief, death isn't just for dead people. I know I was surprised too! It can happen to anybody! Horses, fiddler crabs, even a potato can die! - Tick

HairyTheTaco location: The Hammer, Ontario Gender: Male \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 9 on 2/6/2005 8:17 PM >

	I think he is talking about slipping another sole onto your shoes to make your footprints different -but not to hide them. Like putting on the soles of an old Adidas shoe over the soles of your good Nike shoes. When your done your mission, you just discard the old Adidas soles, and if the cops investigate, they see that your wearing Nike's, not Adidas. To me, it too would be too much of a hassel. I really cant see many people being in a situation where this would come in handy. If someone actually wanted to do this, then why dont they just simply bring two pairs of shoes instead of going through the trouble of cutting off the soles of an old pair of shoes and modifying them to fit on your good shoes?

greywolf45

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Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover
<Reply # 10 on 2/9/2005 7:18 AM >

Posted by jojotheirishkid
Once more, something that I should go out and field test, but...

Since there is *mostly* no point in hacking the sole off a shoe and putting it on the bottom of another, what I am thinking about is a rubber sole with whatever kind of tread that fits over your shoe in a similar fashion to these, but with a solid tread http://www.herringtoncatalog.com/fs311.html

You could even implement ninja skills into them and make them a size smaller to throw people off if they investigate your tracks or something. Those by the way, are called Yaktrax and can be found herehttp://www.herringtoncatalog.com/fs311.html

Modified: Accursed image posting never works for me.

I can see the logic in this. If something happens at the site you just finished exploring, and your footprints are all over the site, guess who the authorities are going to come after. Maybe i'm a little paranoid, but i'd rather be safe than sorry.

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"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
Martin Luther King Jr.

Just Oni location: Brampton Ontario, Canada Gender: Male \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 11 on 2/9/2005 12:45 PM >

	I'm pretty sure the police wouldn't go to all the trouble of analysing footprints over something as trivial as trespassing, or even petty theft. Visit my NON-UE Website! http://spaces.msn....embers/goodyboy26/ MSN Messenger: goodyboy26@hotmail.com"> [00:17:29] <Just_Oni> heh I figured out my place here...I don't provide anything inciteful or important to the conversations...I'm just the lettuce to the sandwich that is AvChat

N8L0 Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 12 on 2/22/2005 11:51 PM >

	The only application I could see this on would be transferring soles with nice deep treads onto a pair of lightweight comfy shoes with slick bottoms.

Lazarus Noble Donor location: Westbank, BC Gender: Male \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 13 on 3/10/2005 1:26 PM >

	One word... Galoshes. You know, overshoes like the business guys wear when it rains so their $400 Italian leather shoes don't get wet? They just slip on over your existing shoe and have a completely independent sole of their own. Shouldn't be too hard to track down. If nothing that we do matters then all that matters is what we do.

Freak location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male Hypocrite \| \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 14 on 3/10/2005 7:51 PM >

	Footprints aren't like fingerprints, the cops aren't going to load your shoeprints into some kind of high-tech computer database that tells them "Bobby Henderson purchased these Nike Monkey-master Air-Pros at Walmart last month, here's his trespassing record". Even if there were a violent murder committed at the site you happened to trespass at, and they had your bloody footprints leaving, they'd still have to know who you were and get ahold of your shoes to examine the tread, pattern of wear, and how you put your weight on the shoe to make a print. That would most likely require a search warrant, requiring them to have other evidence against you, which means hiding your shoe prints would be pointless. The only purpose I can see for this is if you were caught by security exiting the site, and they matched your shoes to the tracks elsewhere in the site. You'd have to have some damn good timing to realize you were about to get caught and ditch the shoe covers though. Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137

Hobbes location: Finland Gender: Male \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 15 on 3/11/2005 7:49 PM >

	In some countries cops do have database of shoeprints taken from some suspects and shoeprints from different crime scenes.

greywolf45

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Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover
<Reply # 16 on 3/21/2005 6:54 PM >

Posted by Just Oni
I'm pretty sure the police wouldn't go to all the trouble of analysing footprints over something as trivial as trespassing, or even petty theft.

Don't bet on it Oni. They will consider anything as evidence, even footprints, so it's better to cover all bases. It's best to not tempt fate.

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"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
Martin Luther King Jr.

Ninjako location: Winnipeg Gender: Male I Wonder What's In Here \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 17 on 5/17/2005 1:02 AM >

	A simple option would be to buy very cheap (read: $5) shoes at Wal-Mart and dispose of them after you're done at a location with them. Not to mention a lot of people probably own the same pair of shoes, making tracing the sole imprint even more difficult.

Honey Ryder location: Seattle, WA Gender: Female \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 18 on 5/17/2005 3:31 AM >

	Am I the only person who thinks this is completely ridiculous? If the cops are interested enough (something I doubt unless you killed someone) in you to track your footprints it seems like you better be a lot more worried about your UER tracks than your shoe patterns. sbet.org

OttoL location: Pacific Northwest Gender: Male Renob \|	Re: Altering Your Tread by a Rubber Cover <Reply # 19 on 5/20/2005 5:27 AM >

	Or you could just wear "shoe covers"... Where I work, we have these little "booties" made out of paper that we put on our shoes when going into customers homes so we do not track dirt in with us... You could wear these "booties" which are similar to what doctors wear, and just throw them away or burn them if you are severley paranoid. These things even have psudo tread on them so you have some traction.... Ha, for you "ninja operations" no one will be able to track your shoe prints. Add latex gloves and a disposable tyvek suit, no one will be able to track your fibers.... Whatever.... I would not worry too much about the police tracking your shoe prints, unless you killed someone while exploring.... Then, I dont wanna know about it.

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