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IvyHaven
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NJ/PA
Gender: Male
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< on 9/15/2004 2:49 AM >
|  | | | Hello,
As a kid in the '70s I used to explore abandoned buildings around Newark and South Orange, NJ, such as the Ivy Haven Nursing Home, if only I brought a camera for that. Now I see my childhood hobby has a name "UE".
One teenage drunken night we used a drain to go about 1/2 mile South Orange - Maplewood using only a Bic lighter for light, and the valve overheated and melted halfway thru. Used the lighter which kept dripping flames on my hand to make it to the exit. Helpful draining tip: don't do a drain using only a disposable lighter for a light source.
One place I explored was a fire-damaged 2-3 story house. I went in the first floor but was afraid to climb upstairs or to the basement. Probably a good decision for a 9-year-old explorer, how does one assess the safety of fire-damaged stairs and floors?
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Capone
 
location:
London, Ontario
Gender: Male
UEL
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<Reply # 1 on 9/15/2004 2:55 AM >
| | | | I think a few good solid stamps on the wood would be the best way to tell if it could hold you or not. Do that and put one foot on the floor and slowly put your weight on it to test.
Me, I likely just wouldn't mess with it period though, unless I could see that it was only superficial damage.
Note: this should go in Tutorials
So there I was, in this creepy old hallway... |
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HagensborgViking
  
location:
Fernwood, Victoria
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 2 on 9/15/2004 3:49 AM >
|  | | | If one had the spare time, and were so inclined, they could teach themselves the basics of architecture and construction techniques, which in the future would be a tremendous help in avoiding crashing through a floor and breaking their foot.
Once you understand how a building is errected, you can investigate all of its load points and see if any of them have been comprimised. (I don't know how to spell that...It doesn't look right)
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Control
location:
NYC, All day every day.
Because it's expected
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<Reply # 3 on 9/15/2004 3:53 AM >
| | | | the stability of a fire damaged building has a lot to do with what materials it was made of. industrial buildings with iron beams and concrete floors, no problem. I've been in a few fire damaged industrials.
houses though, and older buildings in generally that are more wood, those you have to be careful of and pay close attention to what areas are damage and how severe the damage is.
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If it looks good, Loot it. |
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kc
Noble Donor
location:
Pueblo, Colorado
Gender: Male
"yah, im hangin the drywall at the new Mc. Donalds"
| | | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 4 on 9/15/2004 4:13 AM >
| | | | well ive been in a few places that were burned, and bassically I look to see if it has a basement/crawl space, then i see if the floor is too badly messed up, then off i go. Now on one ocassion, everything looked good, but if you look at this pic:
http://kcphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/95797/6/3450231
you will see the ceiling is one the floor, and after walking all the way down the hall we discovered that this floor had been heavily eaten away by fire, and you could see through to the basement  . We got lucky on this as it had a basement.
any building with fire damage present a great danger, just let someone else know where you are! One area can be perfectly fine, while another wont be.
Doing a job RIGHT the first time gets the job done. Doing the job
WRONG fourteen times gives you job security. |
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Mark
 
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 5 on 9/15/2004 6:34 AM >
| | | | A few things you have to look for with fire damage.
Ignition point/start of the fire) This can be found tons of ways. From what side of a 2x4 is more burnt, to the color of the ash, or even the old lightbulb trick.
If you really really want to exsplore a building like that, look for signs of firefighters that have peel back ash board to find solid wood.
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The Hitman's Daughter
Account Closed
location:
ottawa, canada
Gender: Female
hot pavement.
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<Reply # 6 on 9/15/2004 6:48 AM >
| | | | I've explored a few fire damaged places, but not for a while. Detroit and I went to one farm house that had been burned by a fire, and I got in through the basement and went up the stairs. It was so creepy looking at all the family's burned possesions left exactly the way they were. Burned sofas, burned up kitchen, burned family pictures on the wall...
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IIVQ
location:
La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
Back in Urbex!
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<Reply # 7 on 9/15/2004 8:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
A few things you have to look for with fire damage.
[...] or even the old lightbulb trick. |
explain?
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kc
Noble Donor
location:
Pueblo, Colorado
Gender: Male
"yah, im hangin the drywall at the new Mc. Donalds"
| | | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 8 on 9/15/2004 8:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by The Hitman's Daughter
I've explored a few fire damaged places, but not for a while. Detroit and I went to one farm house that had been burned by a fire, and I got in through the basement and went up the stairs. It was so creepy looking at all the family's burned possesions left exactly the way they were. Burned sofas, burned up kitchen, burned family pictures on the wall...
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i have to say ive been in some burnt houses (farm type) and it is odd, how they leave everything from furniture to pics and personal items..most of which are just coated in soot. But that is the appeal of UE i guess, for me anyway..seeing the weird things people leave behind.
Doing a job RIGHT the first time gets the job done. Doing the job
WRONG fourteen times gives you job security. |
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Caveman6666
location:
NY
| |  | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 9 on 9/15/2004 12:22 PM >
| | | | Posted by HagensborgViking
If one had the spare time, and were so inclined, they could teach themselves the basics of architecture and construction techniques, which in the future would be a tremendous help in avoiding crashing through a floor and breaking their foot.
Once you understand how a building is errected, you can investigate all of its load points and see if any of them have been comprimised. (I don't know how to spell that...It doesn't look right)
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Pretty much what I was going to say. I try and get a look at the basement first so as to be able to assess the condition of the level above.
BTW, it's compromised 
Yet another unoriginal generic UE website. GODDAM! |
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Crossfire
location:
Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| | | | | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 10 on 9/15/2004 12:34 PM >
| | | | Moved to the Tutorials Section.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 11 on 9/15/2004 6:57 PM >
| | | | lightbulbs usually melt so there pointing at the fire. Infact the glas that has burned can sometimes point in the direction of the fire. Anyways as it melts the more intact side is on the oppistie side of the most intesnse heat. Its one of th quickest ways to walk in a building and track down the direction of how the fire spread.
You can also find out what caused the fire by paterns on the wall etc. Generally speaking a fire is going to burn from ignition point out. If you find paths or more chared areas it could be a accelerant of some type. You should also look for fires started in odd areas. Also doors curling in on themselves. This usually means the fire came from inside that room. This usually only works on the cheap hollow doors.
I think there is a picture of it at whitbey psych. I'll look.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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Gunslinger
location:
The Wasteland "Peel Region"
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 12 on 9/16/2004 3:56 AM >
| | | | You should never trust wood, especially old rotting fire damaged wood.
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sympathy in chaos
location:
Chicago
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Exploring fire-damaged buildings
<Reply # 13 on 9/16/2004 3:59 AM >
| | | | I've never tried this...but you could tie bowline with a stretchy rope between you and another person. If it works for people climbing mountains, it should work ok for a potential 10 foot fall.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 14 on 9/16/2004 6:13 AM >
| | | | I wouldnt do that. The only time fire fighters use that is to sweep the room. If you have someone tied to you who goes through the floor you just shocked the floor your standing on with between 2-5 times your weight. Id suggest staying 10 feet apart instead.
Gunslinger is right, dont walk on burnt wood. Unless you know more about it then the average person. Scarping the ash away can also tell you how deeply the woods been burnt. That also tells you how long the fire was burning in that area as well. Sorry I dont have the data table for that handy.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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