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 JonnySniper
Location: Oh, hi. Oh.
Gender: Male
Way to save the world!
 |  | Mentioning UER
< on 2/11/2012 8:25 PM >
|  | | | I'm not sure whether this belongs in the rookie forum or not, but I was wondering...
I know mentioning UER to LEOs isn't a good idea, but what about when attempting to get permission from the owner to take some photos?
Thoughts?
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citrusleak
    
Location: Indy
Gender: Male
Indy Explorer
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 1 on 2/11/2012 8:34 PM >
| | | | There's no reason you should have to specifically mention this site. If you have to give details about a website or online source, just say "Some exploring website, I'm not sure of the name."
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Speed
 
Location: Philly area
Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 2 on 2/11/2012 8:41 PM >
| | | | Posted by citrusleak
There's no reason you should ever have to specifically mention this site with regards to gaining access to a property.
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fixed
R.I.P. NickSan | R.I.P. Don Corleyone |
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hydrotherapy
 
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| |  | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 3 on 2/11/2012 8:44 PM >
| | | | No.
Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. |
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JonnySniper
Location: Oh, hi. Oh.
Gender: Male
Way to save the world!
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 4 on 2/11/2012 8:49 PM >
| | | | Well let's say for the sake of discussion an owner wants specific information on why exactly you want to take pictures of the building. Let's say they aren't going to just let you in because you're some guy with a flickr page. The location is important to them for one reason or another, and they want to make sure you're part of some sort of "community" or "organization" that has some kind of legit agenda. I mean say what you want about morals or ethics, I know not everyone agrees with them. But for the most part wouldn't you say if you remove trespassing from the equation, that UER is a fairly respectable community? For the most part at least?
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Speed
Location: Philly area
Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 5 on 2/11/2012 8:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by JonnySniper
Well let's say for the sake of discussion an owner wants specific information on why exactly you want to take pictures of the building. Let's say they aren't going to just let you in because you're some guy with a flickr page. The location is important to them for one reason or another, and they want to make sure you're part of some sort of "community" or "organization" that has some kind of legit agenda. I mean say what you want about morals or ethics, I know not everyone agrees with them. But for the most part wouldn't you say if you remove trespassing from the equation, that UER is a fairly respectable community? For the most part at least?
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Posted by Speed
There's no reason you should ever have to specifically mention this site with regards to gaining access to a property.
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Employ another angle.
Do not use UER or direct unwanted attention to this site. It has enought already.
R.I.P. NickSan | R.I.P. Don Corleyone |
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 6 on 2/11/2012 8:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by JonnySniper
Well let's say for the sake of discussion an owner wants specific information on why exactly you want to take pictures of the building. Let's say they aren't going to just let you in because you're some guy with a flickr page. The location is important to them for one reason or another, and they want to make sure you're part of some sort of "community" or "organization" that has some kind of legit agenda. I mean say what you want about morals or ethics, I know not everyone agrees with them. But for the most part wouldn't you say if you remove trespassing from the equation, that UER is a fairly respectable community? For the most part at least?
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1) UER does not have a "legit agenda", we are not a get out of jail free card
2) UER very possibly contains photos of said location that people took without asking the property owner
3) This may well upset the property owner and then LEOs come here
4) We have property owners and have in the past who come on this site to keep tabs on their locations and have threatened/harassed/prosecuted members in the past
5) Learn to social engineer, talk a good game, tell them it's a school project, use your Flickr stream, make friends with the local historic society and name drop those guys, NOT uer.ca
6) The first thing the property owner is going to see on here is likely to involve discussions on what sort of ghillie suit to buy, macros of cats and boobs, and discussion over how many walkie talkies and ATVs to bring
7) The first rule of UER is don't ever use UER as an excuse or justification. For anything.
Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. |
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JonnySniper
Location: Oh, hi. Oh.
Gender: Male
Way to save the world!
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 7 on 2/11/2012 9:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by hydrotherapy
2) UER very possibly contains photos of said location that people took without asking the property owner
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7) The first rule of UER is don't ever use UER as an excuse or justification. For anything.
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2) The location I have in mind is locked up pretty tight. I'm doubtful there are any pictures on here, but I can't know for sure. I know some of you are pretty resourceful.
7) This is pretty much all I needed to know. I suppose I'll just have to figure something out for this one.
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Speed
Location: Philly area
Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 8 on 2/11/2012 9:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by JonnySniper
2) The location I have in mind is locked up pretty tight. I'm doubtful there are any pictures on here, but I can't know for sure. I know some of you are pretty resourceful.
7) This is pretty much all I needed to know. I suppose I'll just have to figure something out for this one.
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She gave you the answer with 5)
R.I.P. NickSan | R.I.P. Don Corleyone |
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JonnySniper
Location: Oh, hi. Oh.
Gender: Male
Way to save the world!
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 9 on 2/11/2012 9:21 PM >
| | | | I don't want to give away too much info on this place, but let's say it's really important to me that I get permission. I don't want to have to resort to lying about a school project or something like that to get in. The historical society thing might work, but it's in a different town and I don't think they'd be patient enough to get in touch with the one where I live. I think my best course of action on this would be to just get some business cards and get my name out there. Maybe even start up a little site of my own. Thanks for the advice though.
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 10 on 2/11/2012 10:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by JonnySniper
The historical society thing might work, but it's in a different town and I don't think they'd be patient enough to get in touch with the one where I live. I think my best course of action on this would be to just get some business cards and get my name out there. Maybe even start up a little site of my own. Thanks for the advice though.
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There's always another way. Example:
http://www.siahq.org/
Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. |
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cdevon
Location: west county
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 11 on 2/11/2012 11:00 PM >
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When I say I'm 'clean and sober', it means I've showered and I'm headed to the liquor store. |
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Urbex Tom
Location: Massachusetts
Gender: Male
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 12 on 2/11/2012 11:04 PM >
| | | | There's no need to mention it when you can simply flash your UER membership card and clip on tail. You didn't get yours?
backpack full of bear |
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 13 on 2/11/2012 11:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by Urbex Tom
There's no need to mention it when you can simply flash your UER membership card and clip on tail. You didn't get yours?
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Damn I have to leave for work and now I have to wait till morning to see how this plays out.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
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MrSivalls
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 14 on 2/11/2012 11:25 PM >
| | | | Works only if they're UER members. Try it, it can never hurt.
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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Trap
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Gender: Male
Son, I am disappoint
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 15 on 2/11/2012 11:48 PM >
| | | | Posted by JonnySniper
2) The location I have in mind is locked up pretty tight. I'm doubtful there are any pictures on here, but I can't know for sure. I know some of you are pretty resourceful.
7) This is pretty much all I needed to know. I suppose I'll just have to figure something out for this one.
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NO. GOD DAMNIT. NO. How else do you want us to say it!? EN. OH. NO.
Where in Ohio are you, exactly?
[last edit 2/11/2012 11:50 PM by Trap - edited 1 times]
Posted by Send4Help:
ITS EIGHT FUCKING THIRTY!!
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WarBird69
Location: Eastern TN
Gender: Male
Atomic Bird of War
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 16 on 2/11/2012 11:55 PM >
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When twilight draws near, when you are pushed to the very limits of your soul, when it seems that all you have left are the dead remnants of the fabric of your life:
-- BELIEVE |
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MrSivalls
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 17 on 2/11/2012 11:57 PM >
| | | | Works on pretty girls too. Do it.
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 18 on 2/12/2012 12:16 AM >
| | | | Everyone can stop posting macros now. Thanks.
Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. |
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Keaven
Location: 15 miles from the Grassy Knoll
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Mentioning UER
<Reply # 19 on 2/12/2012 12:35 AM >
| | | | If mentioning having "an interest in local history" doesn't work, mentioning urban exploration sure isn't.
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