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 Kuroneko
      
Location: Tokyo
Gender: Male
 |  | Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
< on 1/27/2012 1:49 AM >
|  | | | http://www.smh.com...0120127-1qk7o.html
Alcohol implied as one cause. No mention of stupidity, and the gene-pool benefits. Neko.
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MrLedSled
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 1 on 1/27/2012 1:53 AM >
| | | | I wonder if his family feels the same way?
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AdventureDog
 
Location: Detroit, MI
Gender: Male
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 2 on 1/27/2012 2:10 AM >
| | | | There's no way for us to know what happened, don't take some news writers assumptions as fact.
www.detroit-madness.com |
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aurelie
Location: pacific northwest
Gender: Female
high tech:: low life.
| |  | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 3 on 1/27/2012 3:00 AM >
| | | | This is just sad.
Could have been any of us, really. (Any of us who climb cranes, at least).
He may have just made a mistake.
reckless thoughts abide; anachronistic and impulsive.
loosely jacketed against the cold and ten thousand worlds for the choosing. |
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NCBuilder
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 4 on 1/27/2012 4:08 AM >
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I was going to say that's a pretty big crane for building houses, but this http://www.dailyte...euzi-1226254875648 says they're building apartments. Also when I zoomed in on the neighborhood, I noticed that not does it look like an awesome place to live, but they also build some weird houses.
1.
Oh, and it was only weird for a moment seeing that this happened tomorrow(I'm in the US obv.)
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oldtimer
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 5 on 1/27/2012 8:20 PM >
| | | | Am I the only one who had to look up what "skylarking" meant?
It's the title of a 1986 XTC album, I knew that much. I've never seen it used in conversation.
I would agree that climbing such things is reckless. However, I would love to have the courage to do that some day - just to take some nice photographs. Somehow I'd have to be guaranteed a safe journey if that's possible.
But if alcohol was a factor and the source of his bravery then I don't have a lot of sympathy. The 'partying' comment might be a clue.
Why would the construction company be asked to comment? To make them feel guilt? To encourage excessive/redundant security? Sometimes the victim in these things is solely to blame.
It's a sad and unfortunate event. Unfortunately things like this will cause more security guards and trespassing tickets to protect us from ourselves.
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 6 on 1/27/2012 9:38 PM >
| | | | While it's unfortunate, the danger is part of the draw.
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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HagensborgViking
Location: Fernwood, Victoria
Gender: Male
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 7 on 1/27/2012 9:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by MrLedSled
I wonder if his family feels the same way?
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Well you're not going to believe this, but I just asked them, and it turns out they do.
I know right?
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Nullality
Location: Miami, fl
| | | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 8 on 1/27/2012 10:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by HagensborgViking
Well you're not going to believe this, but I just asked them, and it turns out they do.
I know right?
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That's why you always leave a note.
ArtxNullality.wordpress.com |
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MrLedSled
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 9 on 1/28/2012 12:18 AM >
| | | | Well you're not going to believe this, but I just asked them, and it turns out they do.
I know right?
You are absolutely right. I don't believe you. I have done many things in the past while drinking that could have killed or injured me. When I read this all I could think of was someone telling my wife or children the same about me. Thankfully all of that behavior is behind me now. (long awkward silence) Just feeling especially sympathetic I guess.
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MrSivalls
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I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 10 on 1/28/2012 12:24 AM >
| | | | The steel may have been wet, and the climber was green, but he ended up in the red. Darwin smiled and ate his child.
Never play on steel, wear the right boots and gloves, and maintain 3 points of contact at all times.
Free climbing is as safe or dangerous as you care to make it. It's a blast to do.
[last edit 1/28/2012 12:29 AM by MrSivalls - edited 1 times]
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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uLiveAndYouBurn
Location: Beyond
Anarchocommunist
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 11 on 1/28/2012 7:56 AM >
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This whole forum is made up of people who take risks of one sort or another. Who the fuck are you to judge?
[last edit 1/28/2012 7:57 AM by uLiveAndYouBurn - edited 1 times]
"Aint nothin' to it but to do it"
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Phelonius
Location: Sydney, Australia
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 12 on 1/28/2012 12:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by MrSivalls
The steel may have been wet, and the climber was green, but he ended up in the red. Darwin smiled and ate his child.
Never play on steel, wear the right boots and gloves, and maintain 3 points of contact at all times.
Free climbing is as safe or dangerous as you care to make it. It's a blast to do.
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It was a fairly wet day.
Rained all morning, cleared up in the arvo.
I'm assuming he slipped or tried to show off to his mates.
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MrSivalls
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
I'll be a-surfin' in yer blood on Saturday night
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 13 on 1/28/2012 2:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by Phelonius
It was a fairly wet day.
Rained all morning, cleared up in the arvo.
I'm assuming he slipped or tried to show off to his mates.
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It's easy to slip on wet painted steel, urethane is real bad, like ice if you hit it right.
After that first slip, he didn't have a prayer. Not like that bs you see in the movies.
[last edit 1/28/2012 2:55 PM by MrSivalls - edited 1 times]
Your security measures were inadequate.
How unfortunate for you. |
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CaptOrbit
Location: Sarasota, FL or Cincinnati, OH
Gender: Male
There you are, right back in the jungle again.
| | | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 14 on 1/30/2012 2:01 AM >
| | | | Zero sympathy for him, maximum sympathy for his family. He wanted that taste of that adrenaline fine, he died a horrible but presumably quick death. Any friends, relatives, or loved ones he left behind will be the ones stuck paying for his reckless actions .
The personal responsibility train left the station years ago, and you gave it the finger as you watched it leave. |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 15 on 1/30/2012 2:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by uLiveAndYouBurn
This whole forum is made up of people who take risks of one sort or another. Who the fuck are you to judge?
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survival
Because it makes Kuroneko feel more in control over his own risk taking behaviors to assume someone who dies taking risks had to be drunk and stupid or lacked necessary survival skills rather than to assume he had a bad dice roll.
from here
Another good article on risk.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Loki
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 16 on 1/30/2012 2:29 AM >
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Fuck you. You know nothing about what happened that night, he might have been sober or close to it and just decided to climb a crane, I've done that before. If you died from a simple exploring accident would you want people assuming you were stupid/drunk/reckless based only on a sensationalised newspaper article?
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 17 on 1/30/2012 2:45 AM >
| | | | Posted by Loki
Fuck you. You know nothing about what happened that night, he might have been sober or close to it and just decided to climb a crane, I've done that before. If you died from a simple exploring accident would you want people assuming you were stupid/drunk/reckless based only on a sensationalised newspaper article?
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http://www.uer.ca/...rrpage=1&pp#post15
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Loki
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 18 on 1/30/2012 3:10 AM >
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You made your post while I was writing mine 
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Crane Climbing - Natural Selection at Work.
<Reply # 19 on 1/30/2012 4:20 AM >
| | | | Without judging a dead man (come on, people), let me just refer to Ninj's AAA... people who take the risks we do as explorers ought to remember the following ratio:
Risk:Reward
Apart from that, there is a longstanding rule-of-thumb; that from time to time the drainers drown, the climbers fall, and the hardcores go to jail.
If you explore and have had a close call... good. But feel lucky.
If you explore and haven't had a close call... I don't know what you're doing wrong, but I can't help you if you can't find something worth some risk and still call yourself an 'explorer'.
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