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 MikeEBike
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
 |  | St. Paul Labyrinth Map
< on 6/10/2011 1:05 AM >
|  | | | Hi all,
I've been having some fun recently trying to decipher the Labyrinth Map at:
http://www.actions...rinth/MainMap.html
I have never and may never explore there, but it was fun enough reading the stories and seeing the pics that I felt it'd be cool to have a better idea of the structure.
Anyone know of any other similar public maps, preferably without everything spelled out ? 
I wouldn't want to spoil anyone's fun, so I'd prefer nobody post anything too explicit, but....
So yes there is a "trick" to "mapping" that map to a street map. I figured this trick was possible from the start, but got stuck for a while because two adjacent shapes matched well between maps. Now, with the trick applied, just about everything else looks right.
I see there are some "symbols" there for caves and similar. I think I've figured out 1 or 2 of the color codings, but the rest are still a mystery to be solved.
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Clockwork
    
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
I WILL KILL THIS MONKEY! I'M CRAZY!
| |  | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 1 on 6/10/2011 1:23 AM >
| | | | Take it to PMs instead of the public forum.
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relik
 
Location: 44.26126°,-88.41502° (Appleton, WI)
Gender: Male
There is no truth, Only a perspective.
| |  | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 2 on 6/10/2011 3:27 AM >
| | | | i don't think asking on public forum is going to get you much help. sorry, d00d.
"When it rains, just find bigger drains." |
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MikeEBike
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 3 on 6/10/2011 4:11 AM >
| | | | Posted by relik
i don't think asking on public forum is going to get you much help. sorry, d00d.
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I'm sorry, but I don't think either of you understood my post.
I'm not asking for help, or outright "served on a platter" information.
The only question in my post was: "Anyone know of any other similar public maps, preferably without everything spelled out ?"
I specifically do NOT want any spoilers. Just perhaps a source of further clues that might help me do "armchair exploration".
There is plenty that could be discussed that wouldn't be a spoiler. Such as just the names given to the "Seven distinct yet interconnecting, tunnel systems." Or is that "protected info" too, despite that it's been plastered all over the Action Squad website for many years ?
I can only clearly count 6, but perhaps the "NSP/Gas Tunnels" should be considered 2:
1) The telephone tunnels
2) The Water Main tunnels
3) NSP/Gas Tunnels
4) The maze of ancient sewer tunnels.
5) Wabasha Bridge Rooms, Caves and Tunnels.
6) TCRT Tunnels
7) ?? Cobb Caves ???
And then, there is the "trivia" that the "trick" was mentioned as a recommendation in a post in the archives of this site. I found this after a search for threads similar to this.
Anyway, if you still don't understand this thread, or disagree with it, then please feel free to have a mod delete or lock it or whatever.
[last edit 6/10/2011 4:16 AM by MikeEBike - edited 1 times]
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relik
Location: 44.26126°,-88.41502° (Appleton, WI)
Gender: Male
There is no truth, Only a perspective.
| | | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 4 on 6/10/2011 3:01 PM >
| | | | i understood what you meant, but i'm afraid my comment may still stand. someone may be of some help, though? i, unfortunately, cannot be. i've only viewed the map, but got screwed out of exploring it for myself, due to one of my buddies being far too intoxicated for the venture.
"When it rains, just find bigger drains." |
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 5 on 6/10/2011 3:32 PM >
| | | | I found this map of the place with the stuff, hope it helps!
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137 |
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Smurf
Location: Salt Lake City / Saint Paul
Gender: Male
Sanitary sewers are smarter than the ghetto in spring time
| |  | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 6 on 6/10/2011 4:29 PM >
| | | | So you don't want any spoilers in your quest for armchair exploration????
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blacklines
Location: the red stick.
Gender: Male
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 7 on 6/10/2011 5:28 PM >
| | | | Posted by Freak
I found this map of the place with the stuff, hope it helps!
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i hear that place was demolished, they had to do it because of all the scrappers and vandals.
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Clockwork
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
I WILL KILL THIS MONKEY! I'M CRAZY!
| | | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 8 on 6/10/2011 11:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by MikeEBike
I'm sorry, but I don't think either of you understood my post.
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I'm sorry, but I am quite certain you didn't understand my post.
Stuff "plastered all over the Action Squad website" not withstanding, there's still no need to discuss these matters openly on a public forum further plastering them all over UER.
I'm going to try to not be a dick about this. I'm going to try to help you understand this all within some local context...
That stuff you are reading on Action Squad is about ten years old. The stories are well-written, inspirational, and fantastically exciting to read. But they all harken back to a different era for our local exploration. A lot has changed since that time, and careless discussion of some things can inspire naive new explorers to do dumb things and get into serious trouble.
For instance, there are accounts of Action Squad exploring the University of Minnesota steam tunnels. Years ago those tunnels were easy to access and explorers had free run of them once inside. Campus security took notice and installed motion detector cameras, making the entire system impossible to explore in modern times. Just a week ago a group of people got busted for exploring those tunnels, not knowing there were security devices installed. Read about it here: http://www.mndaily...s-tunnel-explorers They face very steep penalties for what was essentially harmless exploration.
The Labyrinth tunnels you mention have faced even more changes. Old entrances got sealed up. Manholes got bolted down and rungs were cut from the shafts. There was a water main break a while back that flooded some tunnels causing a collapse. When the Republican National Convention came to St. Paul a few years ago, homeland security was brought in and did a revamp of security for many areas. A lot of tunnels got sealed up, old entrances were lost, and motion detectors and cameras were installed in numerous tunnels. Gatsby, a great explorer, went in anyways to check the security and he got arrested. His mugshot was on television even. This is not good.
In recent times, some party kids called the "bro dudes" dug their way in to some of the abandoned labyrinth tunnel sections and started partying and tagging. The local explorers united and made a tough decision. They chose to permanently seal up that tunnel section with fortified concrete for the greater good, even though it cost us all our last entrance to tunnels.
We don't need another bro dude incident. Those tunnels are sealed up, and even if you could get in there would be good chances you'd get arrested by going by a security camera. That is why this doesn't need more discussion here on the public forums. Adding more maps with hints for the sake of your armchair exploring will incite more foolhardy people to either cause vandalism or get busted. Inspiring new people to get hurt or arrested is just bad news.
When I said take it to PMs I meant take this discussion to private messages. If you want to talk about maps and stuff, send Slim Jim a private message. He drew the original Action Squad map way back in the day, and he's the most brilliant map reader/maker I've ever known. If maps are your thing, you'll find a kindered spirit in discussing them with Slim Jim.
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MikeEBike
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 10 on 6/11/2011 4:28 AM >
| | | | Posted by Clockwork
I'm sorry, but I am quite certain you didn't understand my post.
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OK, I can understand your points.
But if I agreed with you, I would also say that these forums and the DB and EVERYTHING else on the "interwebs" should be removed, shut down, and burned because some idjut somewhere will hurt himself or whatever.
Whatever. I have no interest in arguing, and please don't take the above as harsh...
Thanks for the Slim Jim pointer.
So, so be it, thread should be closed. Public discussion over.
[last edit 6/11/2011 4:41 AM by MikeEBike - edited 1 times]
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insomniawesome
Location: A2, MI
Gender: Male
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 11 on 6/11/2011 6:54 AM >
| | | | anyone else feel that giraffe?
[last edit 6/11/2011 6:54 AM by insomniawesome - edited 1 times]
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Worm Wirsbo
Back from the Dead
Location: Mill City
| | | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 12 on 6/12/2011 7:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by insomniawesome
anyone else feel that giraffe?
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Your avatar creeps me the fuck out.
Your mom's a chatiere |
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Slim Jim
Noble Donor
Location: St. Paul, MN
Gender: Male
Maze is 100% done now!!! Someday when it's -10 out and the generators won't start I might upload th
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 13 on 6/13/2011 2:56 AM >
| | | | You'll never figure out the map. You can't, because the "Labyrinth" does not exist. It's a big joke we made up over a decade ago. And people still believe it!
I want to be different. But I want to be different just like everybody else, because if I really were different, everybody would think I was crazy and weird.
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Smurf
Location: Salt Lake City / Saint Paul
Gender: Male
Sanitary sewers are smarter than the ghetto in spring time
| | | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 14 on 6/13/2011 3:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by Slim Jim
You'll never figure out the map. You can't, because the "Labyrinth" does not exist. It's a big joke we made up over a decade ago. And people still believe it!
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Damnit that explains a lot. thanks for telling me now at least
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MikeEBike
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 15 on 6/14/2011 8:09 PM >
| | | | Posted by Slim Jim
You'll never figure out the map. You can't, because the "Labyrinth" does not exist. It's a big joke we made up over a decade ago. And people still believe it!
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Thanks for your confirmation Slim Jim.
Yes, I can see the giraffe with the adjacent "A's" for legs, and he is clearly laughing at me. ;)
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Darlinclem
Location: Twin Cities
Gender: Female
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 16 on 6/15/2011 2:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by relik
i understood what you meant, but i'm afraid my comment may still stand. someone may be of some help, though? i, unfortunately, cannot be. i've only viewed the map, but got screwed out of exploring it for myself, due to one of my buddies being far too intoxicated for the venture.
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Also under 18 and a bad liar. Lawl.
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relik
Location: 44.26126°,-88.41502° (Appleton, WI)
Gender: Male
There is no truth, Only a perspective.
| | | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 17 on 6/15/2011 3:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by Darlinclem
Also under 18 and a bad liar. Lawl.
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good enough liar to fool me for the bit. i hadn't known him too long, previously. sorry again, DC. ;]
"When it rains, just find bigger drains." |
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Modbox
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Gender: Male
Altered on the surface
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 18 on 6/15/2011 6:40 AM >
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TCdrainer
Location: ur moms house
Gender: Male
| | Re: St. Paul Labyrinth Map
<Reply # 19 on 6/15/2011 7:01 PM >
| | | | The OP posted: http://www.actions...rinth/MainMap.html
That's not a map of the Lab.
That's actually a diagram of my lower intestine, the "cave" being my sphincter (rectal opening).
"Reality is an illusion created by a lack of alcohol." |
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