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 Steed
        
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
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<Reply # 100 on 12/29/2010 10:53 AM >
|  | | | Well when you're in an abandonment, you can either act responsibly or get really immature. Not sure why anyone of the former would want the latter around. Thus, UE was coined.
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ghost6
Location: R'lyeh, North Carolina
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 101 on 12/29/2010 11:41 AM >
| | | | blablabla ethics and creed, you all can talk about whats right or wrong or what if this or that or they gonna bulldoze the place, but the bottom line is, if you take something, that does not belong to you, it is stealing which is a crime.
So what the owner does not care about the item, if he catches you trespassing with the item in hand, 9 times out of 10 he is also going to have the police charge you with burglary, theft or whatever else they charge you with. Dont matter if the item was worthless, these are the days of trumped up charges, felony grand theft for taking a bucket of shit they try to say is worth $1,000.
If I was a moderator here, and you bragged about STEALING or posted pics of your loot, I would ban you. Misdemeanor trespass is one thing, but theft/burgulary takes it to a whole new level, which is actually something cops put effort into investigating.
I dont want to be made an accessory to your crimes. Sorry to sound like a dickhead but what you do is between you, that little angle sitting on your shoulder and that little devil on the other shoulder.
Remember, taking anything is stealing, any form of souvenir, junk, shit thats rusted garbage, scrap metal, anything.
Once I found a Chevy 1/2 ton truck, from mid 1970s vintage, perfectly preserved in origional condition, last used in the mid 1980s.
It was inside an abandon mine facility in there maintenance garage along with some forklifts and motor junk. No way to ask the landowner because I was trespassing so I was shit out of luck.
But thinking back on it, there may have been a way.
I might could have used county GIS or public records to track down the landowner. Pretend I had never seen the truck or trespassed on the property. I could have made up some reason to want to go back there and by some unlikely miracle, obtained the landowners permission to go back there.
Then I could go onto the property, and "discovered" the truck (all over again). Then I might could talk to the landowner about selling the truck.
The nightmare corpse-city of R'lyeh…was built in measureless eons behind history by the vast, loathsome shapes that seeped down from the dark stars. There lay great Cthulhu and his hordes, hidden in green slimy vaults. |
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 102 on 12/29/2010 2:50 PM >
| | | | Glad to see everyone came back from the holidays with a bucket full of ethics.
Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. |
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Soldat
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
| |  | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 103 on 12/29/2010 9:37 PM >
| | | | Getting permission to go places is really not nearly as hard people seem to think. It all depends on the owner really. You just have to actually try to get permission rather than just complain about how impossible it is like 95% of people here do.
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Porcelain Doll
Location: philadelphia
Gender: Female
Who Cooks For You?
| | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 104 on 12/29/2010 11:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Getting permission to go places is really not nearly as hard people seem to think. It all depends on the owner really. You just have to actually try to get permission rather than just complain about how impossible it is like 95% of people here do.
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+1 ;]
it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring.
“Everyones so shady. That’s why I’m so fuckin pale.” - Porcelain Black |
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Jonno23
Location: Phoenix, Az, Sector zz9 Plural Z Alpha
Gender: Male
This space for rent
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<Reply # 105 on 12/30/2010 12:07 AM >
| | | | +2 Soldat. I have done it several times for some pretty cool locations. I have infiltrated my fair share of locations, but lots of times you can track down an owner. You would be surprised the number of times that people say "I could care less if you go there. Just dont break shit." Or even better yet, "swing by and pick up a key to the gate, make sure you bring it back."
On the other hand I have also been told to eat shit and die, and if you go anywhere near there I will shoot you without thinking about it."
That is when you wait a few weeks before you actually think about going in, if at all.
But taking things? They arent mine to take. Thats why somewhere in time, they came up with the word theft.
My 2 cents.
Blah Blah Blah. Shut up and open the damn door.
"It's ok Officer, I watch a lot of cop shows on tv, so i am practically one of you guys." - sadly, that didn't work.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonno23/ All my photos suck. |
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unlink
Location: The ole Brantley place
| | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 106 on 12/30/2010 4:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Getting permission to go places is really not nearly as hard people seem to think. It all depends on the owner really. You just have to actually try to get permission rather than just complain about how impossible it is like 95% of people here do.
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this is a farce, at least in florida. 100 requests, MAYBE one yes...
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I am covered in filth, at least it's my own
My smell, well, you know you can't get higher |
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ghost6
Location: R'lyeh, North Carolina
Gender: Male
| | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 107 on 12/30/2010 5:18 AM >
| | | | well you need a ruse to go back there. For urban decay, being honest and giving photography as a reason might be good, but in other places, you might try like, snake collecting, rockhounding, whatever fits the place you are trying to go.
The nightmare corpse-city of R'lyeh…was built in measureless eons behind history by the vast, loathsome shapes that seeped down from the dark stars. There lay great Cthulhu and his hordes, hidden in green slimy vaults. |
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Soldat
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
| | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 108 on 12/30/2010 5:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by ghost6
well you need a ruse to go back there. For urban decay, being honest and giving photography as a reason might be good, but in other places, you might try like, snake collecting, rockhounding, whatever fits the place you are trying to go.
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"Hey, I like old buildings and want to take pictures inside yours" has worked with private owners, a prison bureau, a sheriffs office, a national museum, the PA department of Human Services, and the US Department of General Services.
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decrepitude
Location: Norcal
Gender: Male
| | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 109 on 12/30/2010 8:01 AM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
"Hey, I like old buildings and want to take pictures inside yours" has worked with private owners, a prison bureau, a sheriffs office, a national museum, the PA department of Human Services, and the US Department of General Services.
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I just got into a huge active site recently and got a guided tour just by talking to the security guard about photography and asking him if there was any "old machinery" and "rusty stuff" around that he wouldn't mind me taking pics of. He ended up being a really nice guy, we even cleaned his camera lens for him. Everyone's attitude is different and it never hurts to ask.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 110 on 12/30/2010 8:14 AM >
| | | | I could easily get permission to go to half the sites I visit. I'd just have to sidle up to evictee protest groups, and become the foreign face of government resistance. No thanks.
It should be obvious to everyone that UE ethics exist to make us seem more respectable as a group. Not all of us live up to them all the time, but in those cases it's best not to brag too blatantly about stuff we've taken.
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HagensborgViking
Location: Fernwood, Victoria
Gender: Male
| | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 111 on 12/30/2010 5:03 PM >
| | | | I have watched some amazing buildings go under the dozer bucket completely unsalvaged, and I have also been denied the opportunity to purchase items I later found folded up under a brick pile.
These scenarios are, fortunately, less common than my successes. I have paid a demo guy to stop his cat, hop out and sawzall the front door out of a half eaten house once. Every other door, window, light fixture, crystal knob, glass bottle, cigarette tin and General Motors fridge were taken for free, with permission, from the owner, developer, or city department head with keys. So you win some and you lose some.
I don't often come across a scenario where I need to take without asking, but I get it. Perhaps try and find permission first and if denied, then walk away. If nobody with the authority is found after a legitimate effort, then make your own judgement call.
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Oh and if you're more specifically referring to something that only a trespasser would know was in there, well, there's always going to be the big city asshole developer that questions how you would know what was in there, but more likely he would be taken aback by the simple fact you went through the trouble of asking permission to take a piece of his garbage.
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 112 on 12/30/2010 5:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by ghost6
If I was a moderator here, and you bragged about STEALING or posted pics of your loot, I would ban you.
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The only person who can perm-ban a user is Av. Moderators do not have the power to do that, nor do we want it as we are not your Mommy and Daddy. It's dealt with on a case by case basis if there's any proof and if anyone cares.
Now if you'll excuse me I must away and polish all the pretty things I stole from abandonments of late. These rescued antiques will not ebay themselves, nor will the copper I stole weigh itself in; unfortunately!
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 113 on 12/30/2010 5:16 PM >
| | | | In short, shut up.
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 114 on 12/30/2010 6:05 PM >
| | | | Oh word, another ethics thread. Get the fuck over yourselves.
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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unlink
Location: The ole Brantley place
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<Reply # 115 on 12/30/2010 7:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Oh word, another ethics thread. Get the fuck over yourselves.
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ethics threads.. people are going to disagree and nothing is set in stone. people will do what they want regardless. we can agree to disagree and call it a day. 6 months from now someone else will bring it up again.
I am covered in filth, at least it's my own
My smell, well, you know you can't get higher |
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DjMalign
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Gender: Male
Sexy, sexy, sexy
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<Reply # 116 on 12/31/2010 7:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Oh word, another ethics thread. Get the fuck over yourselves.
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COMON MAN, WE GOTTA STANDARDIZE EXPLORATION!
I hate all of you |
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BippleMcKipple
Location: Lancaster, PA
Gender: Male
Hardcore Parkour Explorer
| | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 117 on 12/31/2010 9:47 PM >
| | | | i take a souvenir from everywhere i go. it's usually something stupid like a pen or a bolt or a crappy half destroyed rusty sign that was laying on the ground. It wouldn't mean anything to anyone else except me.
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Explorer Zero
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<Reply # 118 on 1/1/2011 10:57 AM >
| | | | I once removed an item from a site before it was abandoned thus eliminating any temptation to steal from those that would follow and explore the site later, after it became abandoned.
Thats called being pro-active.
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decrepitude
Location: Norcal
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 119 on 1/1/2011 11:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
I once removed an item from a site before it was abandoned thus eliminating any temptation to steal from those that would follow and explore the site later, after it became abandoned.
Thats called being pro-active.
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haha.you made me lol...
+1
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