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 RenegadeOfFunk
  
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 80 on 12/27/2010 6:19 PM >
|  | | | eBay > Ethics
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Soldat
    
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
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<Reply # 81 on 12/27/2010 7:22 PM >
|  | | | Im not saying people should go around stealing everything but what is so ethically correct about leaving a valuable piece of history to rot, rust, and be destroyed and so wrong about saving an object and give it back its life and purpose?
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CatalogOfCulture
Location: All over the northeast
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 82 on 12/27/2010 7:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Here are what happens to 99.5% of valuable or interesting things in abandonments. The other .5% are saved by the property owner.
A: You take it
B: Somebody else takes it
C: Some person destroys it
D: The elements destroy it
E: The demo destroys it
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What he said...
If it rusts I will find it |
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unlink
Location: The ole Brantley place
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<Reply # 83 on 12/27/2010 7:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Here are what happens to 99.5% of valuable or interesting things in abandonments. The other .5% are saved by the property owner.
A: You take it
B: Somebody else takes it
C: Some person destroys it
D: The elements destroy it
E: The demo destroys it
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QFT this sums up what i was saying
[last edit 12/27/2010 7:53 PM by unlink - edited 1 times]
I am covered in filth, at least it's my own
My smell, well, you know you can't get higher |
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earthworm
Location: General Area
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 84 on 12/27/2010 11:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by Tupsumato
Oh, I forgot that. Exploring and "salvaging" for fun and profit. Especially profit. Disregard ethics, acquire hard currency.
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Ethics < Expression
I forgot that photography was so high and mighty and ethical.
Tourism, human circulation considered as consumption is fundamentally nothing more than the leisure of going to see what has become banal. |
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Air
 
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 85 on 12/28/2010 2:36 AM >
|  | | | Isn't dumpster diving a related aspect of this hobby..?
Posted by earthworm
Ethics < Expression
I forgot that photography was so high and mighty and ethical.
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And magical.
[last edit 12/28/2010 2:37 AM by Air - edited 1 times]
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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earthworm
Location: General Area
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 86 on 12/28/2010 2:47 AM >
| | | | Posted by Air
Isn't dumpster diving a related aspect of this hobby..?
And magical.
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I would say so, at least originally.
Don't steal my soul bro!
Tourism, human circulation considered as consumption is fundamentally nothing more than the leisure of going to see what has become banal. |
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Whinery
Location: United States, Oklahoma
Gender: Male
just go with it...
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<Reply # 87 on 12/28/2010 4:36 AM >
| | | | I'm all about collecting Karma points, so if you are a believer than don't take anything.
Clause: Unless its an awesome book of epic proportions.
case in point............
I found Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" when I was 16...and it changed my whole life. So that thing was ok to steal. ;)
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The Anti-Paradigm
Location: -HTX-
Gender: Male
Against the Flow
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<Reply # 88 on 12/28/2010 6:58 AM >
| | | | Just recently I heard of a place I had explored was going to be torn down, so I went to see if a special artifact was still at the location and it was gone, lost amongst rubble, i was nearly heartbroken. (pitiful i know)
Looking at it from a legal and and ethical standpoint it is wrong. But so is entering where you are not supposed to. Looking at it from a business standpoint, the people who own the place, nor the potential buyers care about a broken doll, a douche bag, a strip of film negatives, bottle of 1800's medicine, or anything like that. They want the property. The place will either be torn down, or gutted, and these artifacts could be lost forever.
Are archaeologists theives? They find artifacts in other countries' backyards and bring them home... (im sure they pay an export tax, but fossils are worth more than the previously mentioned items.)
Just food for thought. The choice is yours, If you choose to break the law to enter, or not, the other choice is yours too.
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TrixieSparrow
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Female
I guess.
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<Reply # 89 on 12/28/2010 7:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by Soldat222
Here are what happens to 99.5% of valuable or interesting things in abandonments. The other .5% are saved by the property owner.
A: You take it
B: Somebody else takes it
C: Some person destroys it
D: The elements destroy it
E: The demo destroys it
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You forgot fire damage!
/me pushes the gas can and matches out of site.
Played did it.
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KublaKhan
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.
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<Reply # 90 on 12/28/2010 8:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by Lord Awesome
pig embryos though are pretty bitchen.
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"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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unlink
Location: The ole Brantley place
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<Reply # 91 on 12/28/2010 3:24 PM >
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jeepers creepers, whered you get those peepers!
I am covered in filth, at least it's my own
My smell, well, you know you can't get higher |
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don_corleyone
Location: F/RoX
Gender: Male
I have abandonment issues
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<Reply # 92 on 12/28/2010 4:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by unlink
jeepers creepers, whered you get those peepers!
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don_corleyone likes this.
leave the gun. take the cannoli.
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unlink
Location: The ole Brantley place
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<Reply # 93 on 12/28/2010 9:21 PM >
| | | | Posted by don_corleyone
don_corleyone likes this.
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upboat
I am covered in filth, at least it's my own
My smell, well, you know you can't get higher |
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Bennet
Location: GA, KY, TN, TX, AL
SP.E.C.T.R.E. Vanguard
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<Reply # 94 on 12/28/2010 9:40 PM >
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It looks like they're in ice cube trays.
For the record, I generally wouldn't take anything just in case I got caught leaving, unless I thought it was of significant importance and needed to be preserved (i.e. Ammoclip's flame-war inspiring 1800's property deed). However, if a site were about to be demoed, I might consider taking something especially cool, but for the most part what looks really cool in an abandonment loses its meaning and looks stupid sitting in your house.
"In a world of owls, this guy is a cat." - A.E.D. |
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manitou
Location: Mississauga/Toronto/Waterloo
Gender: Male
I was born with an inherent knowledge of every abandonment in the world!
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<Reply # 95 on 12/28/2010 10:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by Lord Awesome
pig embryos though are pretty bitchen.
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They are.
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Kirsten
Location: School: Maryland Home: South Jersey
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 96 on 12/29/2010 2:13 AM >
| | | | The way I see it, your already doing something illegal by trespassing. If it's abandoned, no one cares about it, it will like others said, just be destroyed. If it is very historic or looks of importance, I'd try to turn it over to a historical society or something, but honestly, I see taking an object in an abandoned house as the same thing as taking an object left in the woods or on the side of the road (or dumpster diving); forgotten. Of course the law wouldn't agree.
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
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<Reply # 97 on 12/29/2010 5:19 AM >
| | | | Posted by AntiParadigm Productions
Looking at it from a legal and and ethical standpoint it is wrong. But so is entering where you are not supposed to.
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Right, and so is stabbing hobos and shooting at cops to make a getaway. But since we're equating legality with morality and doing one illegal thing, it's really no different.
Seriously, you people are terrible at arguing.
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"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Soldat
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
| | | Re: Removing Items from Sites. Ever possible?
<Reply # 98 on 12/29/2010 7:06 AM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
Right, and so is stabbing hobos and shooting at cops to make a getaway. But since we're equating legality with morality and doing one illegal thing, it's really no different.
Seriously, you people are terrible at arguing.
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What do you mean "you people"? Is this about me being Jewish? Whats with the antisemitism?
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The Anti-Paradigm
Location: -HTX-
Gender: Male
Against the Flow
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<Reply # 99 on 12/29/2010 10:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
Right, and so is stabbing hobos and shooting at cops to make a getaway. But since we're equating legality with morality and doing one illegal thing, it's really no different.
Seriously, you people are terrible at arguing.
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[Mocking voice] Seriously?! [/mocking voice]
I was merely showing both sides of the coin. No arguments here. And if you think this is a topic of debate, you are sorely wrong. I can't make anyone do anything, nor can anyone make me do anything based on what is said here. Kind of an opinion thread.
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