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Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
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<Reply # 100 on 11/29/2010 5:14 AM >
|  | | | Posted by flightlessphoenix
Ask for permission. But only after you've tried it and know you won't get in otherwise.
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if you ask for permission and you are told "no", the owner has just conveyed to you a verbal notice not to trespass.
In many states this raises the crime significantly if you are caught.
Getting arrested after you received verbal or written notice is almost always more severe than if you walked past a posted notice (sign).
It's one of those rare occasions you may actually risk jail time, especially if you have a prior or two.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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flightlessphoenix
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You are likely to be eaten by a grue
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 101 on 11/29/2010 5:16 AM >
| | | | Reread my comment. I meant to only do it last, for that exact reason. Once you know you're not getting in, it doesn't matter what the penalty is for trying again, because you know that trying again won't work. I've found permission to be about 5-10% successful from my experience with it.
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metawaffle
  
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 102 on 11/29/2010 6:00 AM >
| | | | Ask for permission after you've been caught.
"Hey, would you mind if I finished taking a few more photos? If anyone asks, I'll say you told me to leave."
"Sorry, I wouldn't have come in here if I thought I would cause anyone any grief. I hope it wasn't a big hassle for you to come out here. Who would I talk to about getting official permission?"
"You are the wind beneath my wings, oh the wind beneath my wings"
http://www.longexposure.net |
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Grimfel
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 103 on 11/29/2010 7:39 AM >
|  | | | Posted by metawaffle
Ask for permission after you've been caught.
"Hey, would you mind if I finished taking a few more photos? If anyone asks, I'll say you told me to leave."
"Sorry, I wouldn't have come in here if I thought I would cause anyone any grief. I hope it wasn't a big hassle for you to come out here. Who would I talk to about getting official permission?"
"You are the wind beneath my wings, oh the wind beneath my wings"
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Damned good advice... I also want to point out that camera can get ya out of a lot of tight situations. Just bring one even if you don't use it!
Someday the world will thank us for what we do. We take that which is forgotten about and immemorialize it through pictures and our minds. History will look back at what we have done and cherish it as a keepsake without a price, for it will show them what time forgot in a way that the world has never seen it. This is why I do this... |
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Therrin
  
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
| |  | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 104 on 11/29/2010 7:40 AM >
| | | | | "You are the wind beneath my wings, oh the wind beneath my wings" |
"Howdy there, wow! you look like you could use a BJ!"
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 105 on 11/29/2010 3:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by Grimfel
Damned good advice... I also want to point out that camera can get ya out of a lot of tight situations. Just bring one even if you don't use it!
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+ like 100
"we're just photographers card" works quite well
I have yet to not have it throw security/cops for a loop. They generally think the worst of people so it's a complete surprise when that's what we tell them we were doing.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Ricecracker
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 106 on 11/30/2010 12:05 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
+ like 100
"we're just photographers card" works quite well
I have yet to not have it throw security/cops for a loop. They generally think the worst of people so it's a complete surprise when that's what we tell them we were doing.
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The first (and only) time I've been caught, having my camera didn't help.
Me "We're here just to see the decay of these buildings and to take pictures for ourselves"
Security "With photographic equipment? Likely. Who paid you to come here, and what are they planning?"
Me "Nobody paid us; we're here because we find these buildings interesting..."
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Grimfel
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 107 on 11/30/2010 4:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ricecracker
The first (and only) time I've been caught, having my camera didn't help.
Me "We're here just to see the decay of these buildings and to take pictures for ourselves"
Security "With photographic equipment? Likely. Who paid you to come here, and what are they planning?"
Me "Nobody paid us; we're here because we find these buildings interesting..."
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Wow... that d-bag rent a cop has read way too many conspiracy novels. Usually this isn't the case, but that sucks mate!
Someday the world will thank us for what we do. We take that which is forgotten about and immemorialize it through pictures and our minds. History will look back at what we have done and cherish it as a keepsake without a price, for it will show them what time forgot in a way that the world has never seen it. This is why I do this... |
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Bizz
Location: BC, Canada
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 108 on 12/1/2010 5:21 AM >
| | | | Posted by Therrin
"Howdy there, wow! you look like you could use a BJ!"
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Works every time.
Do not attempt to stop with hands or genitals. |
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auto-tecumseh
Location: tecumseh, ontairio
Gender: Male
explorin tecumseh one building at a time
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 109 on 12/1/2010 8:55 PM >
| | | | i suppose if i had to, i would use my taekwondo ninja skills to climb to a very inaccessible place and create a POE, then very few people would be able to get in that POE, but they might just make their own
lets do it |
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 110 on 12/1/2010 11:09 PM >
| | | | Posted by auto-tecumseh
i suppose if i had to, i would use my taekwondo ninja skills to climb to a very inaccessible place and create a POE, then very few people would be able to get in that POE, but they might just make their own
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All you can really do about what other people do is do things TO them (Hey ha ha guys when will you be in town so I can call the cops or cement entrances closed). But other people won't change their actions so don't worry much.
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Trippy
Location: Boston, MA
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 111 on 12/6/2010 4:44 PM >
| | | | I would never break any windows or doors just to get in, or would I break fencing. I would push it to the side it there is enough give and I'll move plyboard aside by never rip it off if it's nailed.
"A big ball of Timey-Wimey Wibbly-Wobbly, stuff." |
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yokes
 
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 112 on 12/6/2010 5:01 PM >
| | | | I draw the line at using thermite. Then I burn the shit out of the line. If the building is still standing when I've left, I didn't try hard enough.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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BippleMcKipple
Location: Lancaster, PA
Gender: Male
Hardcore Parkour Explorer
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 113 on 12/7/2010 9:18 PM >
| | | | don't break anything you can't fix.
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paulpa
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Location: Canuckistan
Gender: Male
Part-time troll
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 114 on 12/14/2010 3:23 AM >
| | | | shotgunning the handle... does that actually work?
I would draw it at anything that destroys or damages an element of the building (if it is a heritage building) or any direct damage to the property (if it is newer)
I would not break boards to get into an older house as it would leave it exposed to the weather. But I do not care about the houses from the rise of suburbia.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 115 on 12/14/2010 3:35 AM >
| | | | Funny, in most of the locations over here, getting caught with a camera would likely make things worse. Still not that bad though.
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TheWolfman269
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
If it looks like a wolf, acts like a wolf, and howls like a wolf, it's probably an asshole.
| | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 116 on 12/15/2010 9:20 PM >
| | | | Eh, I quit breaking into anywhere occupied when I turned 18 and would not be charged as a minor.
But as far as abandoned places and so forth, I'll break through boards if they are old enough. If you can tell that the place is already becoming run down and no one really cares about the property, then game on in my book.
I won't break glass for multiple reasons. Harder to replace. Gives away your position. Makes a sharp and dangerous mess. And so on. But I will break a SEAL on a window or a latch to get the window open.
My rule of thumb on it is, if the place is already going to crap, what is my breaking a door open going to really do?
"I've got military training, a giant crowbar, and I've already been shot. What can really stop me?" - Myself |
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Therrin
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
| | | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 117 on 12/16/2010 8:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by paulpa
shotgunning the handle... does that actually work?
I would draw it at anything that destroys or damages an element of the building (if it is a heritage building) or any direct damage to the property (if it is newer)
I would not break boards to get into an older house as it would leave it exposed to the weather. But I do not care about the houses from the rise of suburbia.
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So if it's old, you protect it, but if it's relatively new then you could care less?
What if the folks back when your "old" buildings were relatively new had the same premise?
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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Maggie Black
Location: Washington
Gender: Female
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 118 on 12/19/2010 2:15 AM >
| | | | I will usually not take down any nailed up boards if I am in a busy place or if it looks like doing so will damage the site. I will undo anything that can be redone, so anything that needs to be unbolted or unscrewed is no problem. I generally like to reseal things after I leave but there are a few places where I intentionally leave it open for others. As I general rule I will not do anything that will damage the site or make it less accessible to others.
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AmberLou
Gender: Female
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 119 on 2/13/2011 8:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by anothefoo
Explored a motel two days ago, second floor access was denied by a lock on a door. I removed the lock by prying out the screws, freeing the door. When I left, I placed the screws back in its place. There was clear indication of others visiting the place, so was pleasantly surprised that everyone before me have been placing the screws back in when they left the place. Keep it up!
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Question, was there still a note on the wall still in the room on the left saying something along the lines of not taking anything out of the room?
We did the same thing, regarding the door...seems like either someone lives or stays up there.
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