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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings? (Viewed 2676 times)
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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 20 on 2/26/2012 6:41 AM >
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There is nothing wrong with taking advantage of any opportunity to see something you haven't seen. So what if a realtor is holding an open house and you can just walk in? Did you see something relatively few others have seen? Then, you have explored!


This would lead me to think of two different things.

1) That as long as few other people have seen it, if you see it, it's "exploring". Which means I could take a house lived in by only 4 people and look around inside it while they're not home and it's "exploring" because only 4 people have ever seen it.

2) That a asylum/bridge/mine/skyscraper/factory/etc which is no longer "in-use" but has been seen by a hundred or more people in its "abandoned" state, is not exploring, and is instead touristing.

Some of the factories you all go through had hundreds if not thousands of employees. So it's not that they "haven't been seen", but in what time period?


Exploring is what YOU make of it. It's not up to anyone else to truly pass judgement on your activities. You can choose to give them the power to do so, and believe what they say, but it doesn't make them right.

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 21 on 2/26/2012 12:38 PM >
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Posted by Therrin

1) That as long as few other people have seen it, if you see it, it's "exploring". Which means I could take a house lived in by only 4 people and look around inside it while they're not home and it's "exploring" because only 4 people have ever seen it.


Although this situation raises ethical issues, yep, its certainly 'splorin'.

Posted by Therrin

2) That a asylum/bridge/mine/skyscraper/factory/etc which is no longer "in-use" but has been seen by a hundred or more people in its "abandoned" state, is not exploring, and is instead touristing.

Some of the factories you all go through had hundreds if not thousands of employees. So it's not that they "haven't been seen", but in what time period?


The Grand Canyon and the Gateway Arch are touristing. An abandoned asylum/bridge/mine/skyscraper/factory/etc, even one which a lot of explorers have seen, still isn't a typical tourist distination.


Posted by Therrin

Exploring is what YOU make of it. It's not up to anyone else to truly pass judgement on your activities. You can choose to give them the power to do so, and believe what they say, but it doesn't make them right.


So true!

While ninja skilz may "open the door" (both figuratively and literally) to more sites, passing up seeing something interesting because they aren't required is a very short sighted approach to UrbEx.

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 22 on 2/26/2012 1:02 PM >
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I hope this turns into a discussion about urbart.

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 23 on 2/26/2012 1:54 PM >
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The Grand Canyon and the Gateway Arch are touristing. An abandoned asylum/bridge/mine/skyscraper/factory/etc, even one which a lot of explorers have seen, still isn't a typical tourist distination.


Except that there are places in abandonments all over the East Coast which I recognize in pictures, having seen hundreds of them, but never having been to the East Coast; while there are some areas of the Grand Canyon that I wouldn't be able to look at and say "that's the Grand Canyon".

You either stick to your own values, or you get spoon-fed the values that others have for you by the shovel full.

If I explore somewhere and someone says "that's not an exploration <for whatever reason> I'll invite them to go outside and play a game of "hide and solo explore and go fuck yourself".

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 24 on 2/26/2012 2:29 PM >
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Posted by Therrin


Except that there are places in abandonments all over the East Coast which I recognize in pictures, having seen hundreds of them, but never having been to the East Coast; while there are some areas of the Grand Canyon that I wouldn't be able to look at and say "that's the Grand Canyon".

You either stick to your own values, or you get spoon-fed the values that others have for you by the shovel full.

If I explore somewhere and someone says "that's not an exploration <for whatever reason> I'll invite them to go outside and play a game of "hide and solo explore and go fuck yourself".


I didn't mean to imply that I'd pass up a chance to see something cool, merely because it is open to the public. I'd love to see the Grand Canyon and to see The Gateway Arch again. If it is cool, it is cool, even if you have to buy an admission ticket.

Now, I wouldn't post Grand Canyon or Gateway Arch photos on this site, unless they were "behind the scenes" views. Because the scope of UER, is places not intended as tourist destinations.

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 25 on 2/28/2012 8:40 PM >
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IMHO, if it's not currently being used, it might as well be totally abandoned. No difference in my mind.

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 26 on 2/29/2012 5:12 AM >
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In my opinion the difference is in their appearance. If a building has a sale or for lease sign in the window and is in pristine shape I wouldn't risk going in, because it's probable that it's visited often and even shown to possible buyers (plus, there's probably not much to see). If it has either sign in the window/yard/wherever and the building looks, well, abandoned then I say why not? I've gone into a few buildings that were up for sale an were in pretty bad shape and it was obvious no one had been there for ages. In fact, one of the most popular places to explore here in MSP is technically for sale.

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 27 on 2/29/2012 7:08 AM >
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Isn't there just as good a chance that a for sale/lease place has interesting things to see (or more interesting things) than 90% of abandoned locations?

(that 90% figure came from thin air, fyi)

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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 28 on 2/29/2012 2:14 PM >
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It gets confusing. Having entered the building from the rear I could rightfully say I'd not seen the sign. (Of course I did see it on recon the day before).
Exploration? Infiltration? unconscious Photographer? B & E?




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Re: Urbexing vs. "for lease" buildings?
<Reply # 29 on 2/29/2012 4:59 PM >
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Posted by WEKurtz
It gets confusing. Having entered the building from the rear I could rightfully say I'd not seen the sign. (Of course I did see it on recon the day before).
Exploration? Infiltration? unconscious Photographer? B & E?


I'd be tempted to put a sign like that up at some locations I like, just to keep other ppl out.

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