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UER Forum > Archived US: Great Lakes > Gary "heads up" (Viewed 467 times)
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Gary "heads up"
< on 7/18/2009 6:34 AM >
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My mom was attacked in her driveway in Miller Friday afternoon, four guys, 1 had a gun. They told her to go into the house and not say anything or he'd shoot her. She managed to scare the douchebags off by screaming "Help, Rape!". I talked to one of the cops and he said there's been several attacks like this lately, including one by City Meth. They think they are some new gang members from IL. Not trying to scare everyone, but just letting you guys know what's going on in Gary since this might not make the papers. These morons are in their late 20s, one has tattoos around his neck. Not the best description, but it's the best she could do and it matched the other reports the cops have. If I get any updates I'll post'em.

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 1 on 7/18/2009 4:04 PM >
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Very smart move by your mom. Glad to hear it

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 2 on 7/27/2009 4:06 PM >
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The population in Gary has exploded in the past couple years. There are tons of new houses, duplexes, and apartments built to house all the people being relocated from the being-demolished projects (like Cabrini Green) in Chicago. Where the ruined Methodist church stands is a neighborhood that was a wasteland of empty lots and loneliness just a couple years ago. Now it is a busy neighborhood full of people and new buildings (with the old abandoned structures still standing in the spaces between. The influx of people from the historically-troubled projects will no doubt increase the amount of dangerous people in the vicinity.

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 3 on 7/28/2009 12:18 AM >
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Posted by Clockwork
The population in Gary has exploded in the past couple years. There are tons of new houses, duplexes, and apartments built to house all the people being relocated from the being-demolished projects (like Cabrini Green) in Chicago. Where the ruined Methodist church stands is a neighborhood that was a wasteland of empty lots and loneliness just a couple years ago. Now it is a busy neighborhood full of people and new buildings (with the old abandoned structures still standing in the spaces between. The influx of people from the historically-troubled projects will no doubt increase the amount of dangerous people in the vicinity.


With respect, Clockwork, I have to disagree with some of your conclusions. Gary's total population is still declining, down 6.6%1,3,8 since 2000, while nearby Hammond is down 7.6%1,3,8 over the same period.

Construction is similarly declining, with the total annual new privately-owned residential building permits issued in Gary dropping from 25 in 2006 to just 6 in 20082. In Hammond, the number of permits has held steady at an average of 9 since 20062.

With regards to where residents of Cabrini Green and other projects have moved since the Chicago Housing Authority relocation took effect, it's hard to find good statistics to back up population location trends. Authors of various studies have found that residents moved either very small distances, or not at all4 Pages 20-21, 5, 6. I have been unable to find any statistics that indicate a significant migration of former housing project residents to Gary.

The only significant new housing in downtown Gary (that I think you are referring to) would be the Horace Mann apartments, which are right across the street from First Methodist Church. Of the 123 units in that complex, 99 are available at subsidized rates; none of these units would be offered by the Chicago Housing Authority as a relocation point7,8.

Despite GFDtrk7's moms horrible experience (I'm glad she is ok), the crime rate in Gary has for the most part remained steady, or declining8

In summary: I'm not trying to single you out or poop all over your parade, but blanket statements about the direction a city is heading with little factual evidence to support such statements don't really contribute much to the forums, and build a unwarranted stigma around a city. Gary is not a particularly safe city - from my own experiences - but its no more dangerous than a lot of major cities. And things like this can discourage people from even trying to see some of the incredible sights in a city like Gary.

Of course, I'm not from the area, have no background in statistical analysis, and could be talking out of my ass on a lot of this. Just so you know

(1) http://www.chester..._slows_here_as.htm

(2) http://censtats.ce...ldg/bldgprmt.shtml

(3) http://quickfacts....es/18/1827000.html

(4) www.northwestern.e...2004/lewis/PFT.pdf

(5) http://66.99.87.40...in_reloc.html#faq6

(6) http://www.blackhi...3&cid=53&reading=1

(7) http://www.mccorma...evelopmentmap.html

(8) http://www.city-da.../Gary-Indiana.html


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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 4 on 7/28/2009 3:36 AM >
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Well, sorry for making a "blanket statement" about Gary. My home city of Dubuque actually has been getting many former Chicago projects residents through the relocation program. And, not to be prejudiced or anything, but the crime (violent and property) rate in Dubuque has skyrocketed. Sorry if I made an ignorant statement about Gary. My statement was based on what I saw with my own eyes, and if relocation can move people all the way to Iowa, it made sense to me that they'd be getting moved somewhere much closer like Gary.

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 5 on 7/28/2009 11:44 AM >
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many residents of cabrini were placed in a relocation program that took them out of the "slums" and scattered them throughout the suburbs. a lot of people put up a big stink about it a few years back

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 6 on 7/28/2009 12:12 PM >
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Yikes! Your poor mom. It is terrible when one can't feel comfortable tooling around in your own yard.

Que pasa, baby?
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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 7 on 7/29/2009 1:09 AM >
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Posted by Clockwork
Well, sorry for making a "blanket statement" about Gary. My home city of Dubuque actually has been getting many former Chicago projects residents through the relocation program. And, not to be prejudiced or anything, but the crime (violent and property) rate in Dubuque has skyrocketed. Sorry if I made an ignorant statement about Gary. My statement was based on what I saw with my own eyes, and if relocation can move people all the way to Iowa, it made sense to me that they'd be getting moved somewhere much closer like Gary.


I think your views have validity, and you being much closer to Gary than I am gives you a different perspective I have.

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 8 on 7/29/2009 2:26 AM >
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Why was your mom in such a shitty neighborhood?

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 9 on 7/29/2009 4:44 AM >
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Posted by DevilC
Why was your mom in such a shitty neighborhood?

Well, Miller isn't really "shitty", especially by Gary standards. The reason she was there is because she lives there.

I don't think there are many from the Chicago projects coming to Gary, most are from south Cook county. As for the crime rates, it's been debated many times. One theory behind lower numbers was the city not completing paperwork to the FBI. With the current moron mayor, who knows! The past several years has seen a decline in population, mostly to northern Merrilville or South Bend.


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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 10 on 7/29/2009 4:47 AM >
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Things will get much, much, much worst over the next 6-24 months.
Get her out of there, or arm her.

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Re: Gary "heads up"
<Reply # 11 on 7/29/2009 1:05 PM >
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Glad she is okay.

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