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 Steed
        
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
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 |  |  | Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
< on 5/1/2009 8:40 AM >
|  | | | A little over a year ago, I scouted out three abandoned US army bases. Here's the thread:
http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=53643
Anyway, on good old, never-updated Wikimapia, they show all three right where I remember them being. That's Kyle in the middle, with Sears and Essayons to the east and west.
http://wikimapia.o...5&z=16&l=0&m=a&v=2
So I went onto Naver Map, the Korean alternative, because they tend to let you zoom in more and are more recent. And what do I find? Simply forest where three US bases stood last year.
http://map.naver.c...&level=2&mapMode=1
There is no way that's possible. They were fighting over the property back then, and I can't believe they could've demolished everything and then planted an entire forest right on top of all three bases.
Does anyone get kind of a Photoshop vibe there? Something's not right.
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metawaffle
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 1 on 5/1/2009 8:42 AM >
| | | | I knew things were blurred out, but I didn't know they were obscured quite like that!
http://www.longexposure.net |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 2 on 5/1/2009 8:44 AM >
| | | | That's exactly what it is!
I searched for Yongsan Garrison, a large, open army base in the middle of Seoul, and it too is covered in trees.
Here it is on Wikimapia:
http://wikimapia.o...6&z=15&l=0&m=a&v=2
And here it is on Naver:
http://map.naver.c...&level=3&mapMode=1
It must be some kind of beautification thing.
...So...my bases are probably still there.
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BulletFL
Location: FL
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 3 on 5/1/2009 9:17 AM >
| | | | I noticed Seoul American High School being in the middle of the southern-most base, and it is open and still running. But of course, on Naver, it's gone. So, yeah, your bases are probably still there.
www.abandonedfl.com |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 4 on 5/1/2009 9:23 AM >
| | | | There's no question that Yongsan still exists, ergo the high school. I would've noticed if a large town-sized population disappeared from one of the densest cities in the world. Although that sucker is going to be abandoned sometime in the foreseeable future.
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Alanslinky
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Male
They locked down their fortress - with locks!
| |  | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 5 on 5/1/2009 12:19 PM >
| | | | Those trees look more full then the rest of the trees in the area. They just don't match up well.
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IIVQ
 
Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
Back in Urbex!
| |  |  | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 6 on 5/1/2009 1:54 PM >
| | | | Nice find. It also happens in "civil" states such as the Netherlands.
See this topic or this image to see how it now appears on Google Earth (trees that are bit-for-bit the same) The forest left of the pond is fake too. Or so they say...
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 7 on 5/1/2009 2:05 PM >
| | | | So, if you're caught, just say you were out for a stroll in the forest.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 8 on 5/1/2009 2:49 PM >
| | | | When looking at a real forest (that I know as a real forest), I have always seen overlapping in the tree designs, and wonder if google maps is just lazy and renders them using the same forest template instead of taking live pictures of the trees. I often feel it's too similar to be real.
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Umbris
Location: Sunrise, Florida
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 9 on 5/1/2009 9:27 PM >
| | | | I've heard of these things happening all over the world with similar "cloned" results- either trees placed over an area to hide it, or objects that aren't really there are added just for an effect (i.e. a grouping of planes showing up on google maps when in reality there was only a single plane). However, to my understanding, from what I've heard it isn't Google maps or any other map displaying site that is responsible for the "hiding" of things, but rather the companies that are producing these images and then selling them to mapping sites. So the blame would have to go to whatever organization or company is providing them. Hmmm...
...I wonder why the map makers would alter the S.Korea images to hide those bases though.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 10 on 5/2/2009 3:04 AM >
| | | | I just discovered if you zoom out a few steps, you can see the bases. Maybe there's some law that prohibits Korean websites from distributing images of US bases, or maybe it's some sort of "out of sight, out of mind" scenario.
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EvilNick
Location: rochester new york
Gender: Male
It's only evil if they do it
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 11 on 5/2/2009 5:01 PM >
| | | | Nothing to see here, move along...
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BulletFL
Location: FL
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 12 on 5/3/2009 12:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by Umbris
I've heard of these things happening all over the world with similar "cloned" results- either trees placed over an area to hide it, or objects that aren't really there are added just for an effect (i.e. a grouping of planes showing up on google maps when in reality there was only a single plane). However, to my understanding, from what I've heard it isn't Google maps or any other map displaying site that is responsible for the "hiding" of things, but rather the companies that are producing these images and then selling them to mapping sites. So the blame would have to go to whatever organization or company is providing them. Hmmm...
...I wonder why the map makers would alter the S.Korea images to hide those bases though.
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A lot of overseas bases are blurred or altered. Try searching for Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and there is a convenient cloud covering it.
www.abandonedfl.com |
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Umbris
Location: Sunrise, Florida
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 13 on 5/3/2009 9:16 PM >
| | | | Posted by NynJah
A lot of overseas bases are blurred or altered. Try searching for Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and there is a convenient cloud covering it.
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lol ya ive heard of that one.
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rob.i.am
Gender: Male
Carpe noctum
| | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 14 on 5/4/2009 12:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by NynJah
A lot of overseas bases are blurred or altered. Try searching for Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and there is a convenient cloud covering it.
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Interestingly enough, the cloud cover is over a different area in the Live Maps aerial view.
http://maps.live.c...mo%20Bay&encType=1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob666/ |
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Umbris
Location: Sunrise, Florida
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Holy fuck, can they do this? (online maps problem)
<Reply # 15 on 5/4/2009 10:33 PM >
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interesting. I just took a look at both google and live and it seems the cloud cover is just something that couldn't be avoided at the time the photos were taken. The detention camp at guantanamo is and (according to G.earth's time feature) always was visible so I don't think the clouds here were placed in.
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