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 olive
    
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
 |  |  | Having trouble with back lighting.
< on 3/29/2009 5:16 AM >
|  | | | i haven't yet been able to figure out how to fix this problem.
when im trying to get a photograph with a bright window in it, the window will be overly bright, and the room will be too dark.
in addition to this problem, im also having problems with widows getting like a light glow around them.
i have a rebel xti, and usually shoot with my sigma 17-70mm with a plain uv filter. and i usually shoot in av mode.
example one, overly bright window, with dark room.
example two, window in the distance has a "light glow" around it.
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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metawaffle
   
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 1 on 3/29/2009 5:55 AM >
| | | | If the windows are too bright, and the room too dark, you may well be running into the limitations of digital cameras. In-camera, you can choose to either expose the window properly, or the room, but if the contrast is just too great, not both at the same time.
However! There are approaches to dealing with this sort of thing in post processing, based on shooting multiple frames of the same thing, at different exposures. HDR is one approach, but that's a tricky path to follow. Another is to just selectively combine parts of several frames on top of each other, and there's a good tutorial for doing this here:
http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=49601
Good luck!
http://www.longexposure.net |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 2 on 3/29/2009 3:21 PM >
| | | | okay, thanks a lot for your help!!
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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G.U.
Location: Sudbury/Meaford, ON Canada QC
Gender: Male
Get your F****** towel ready.
| | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 3 on 3/29/2009 11:58 PM >
| | | | Hey olivialyon,
Tait put this link up when we where asking earlier about HDR, its by no means the end all, but I have found it a great start 
http://backingwind...al-hdr-images.html
~"Why did the geologist take his girlfriend to the quarry? She wanted to get a little boulder, and He wanted to get his rocks off."~ ~When your hands are tied, Kick...Ass ~ My Flickr! |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 4 on 3/30/2009 12:41 AM >
| | | | Posted by GrounderUnder
Hey olivialyon,
Tait put this link up when we where asking earlier about HDR, its by no means the end all, but I have found it a great start
http://backingwind...al-hdr-images.html
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this is a great link! the steps are so easy! thanks!!!
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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G.U.
Location: Sudbury/Meaford, ON Canada QC
Gender: Male
Get your F****** towel ready.
| | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 5 on 3/30/2009 1:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by olivialyon
this is a great link! the steps are so easy! thanks!!!
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 it's basic but makes you feel like you WIN at photoshop
~"Why did the geologist take his girlfriend to the quarry? She wanted to get a little boulder, and He wanted to get his rocks off."~ ~When your hands are tied, Kick...Ass ~ My Flickr! |
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DarkAngel
Gender: Male
His operating system is unstable.
| | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 6 on 3/30/2009 10:52 AM >
| | | | dont suppose you can adjust the f stop and exposure time? just turn the f down and increase exposure.
Been a long time since ive had to do that though.
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ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Location: Newark, NJ
Gender: Male
Action always satisfies
| | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 7 on 3/30/2009 12:45 PM >
| | | | Use film instead.
=)
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - T.R. |
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bourbonbaby
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 8 on 3/30/2009 1:52 PM >
| | | | before we get all HDR & shit. How about trying to use a flash?
Get a decently powerful manual flash, meter for the window (or meter the window a couple of stops over) and use the flash to fill in the interior
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wojtek/ |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 9 on 3/30/2009 9:11 PM >
| | | | Posted by ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Use film instead.
=)
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i would if a could but i can't afford it!
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 10 on 3/30/2009 9:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by bourbonbaby
before we get all HDR & shit. How about trying to use a flash?
Get a decently powerful manual flash, meter for the window (or meter the window a couple of stops over) and use the flash to fill in the interior
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never thought about that one!
thanks!
any recommendation on what flash to get ?
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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bourbonbaby
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 11 on 3/31/2009 5:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by olivialyon
never thought about that one!
thanks!
any recommendation on what flash to get ?
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**EDIT**
I just read the post and realized that my question was answered in the first post if I'd have read it properly.
You could probably get away with a Canon 420EX (or an off brand sunpack, vivitar or something of the sort). Something along these lines will give you TTL flash and communicate effectively with the camera thus making it a bit easier to do what you gots to do. These aren't the most powerful flashes, but it'll give you a good start, plus it makes a WORLD of difference in the rest of your photography. Having a separate flash that has a swivel head is SO MUCH ridiculously better looking that you'll wish you could tear off your on camera flash and poop on it. Also getting used to dealing with balancing flash and daylight gives you some great experience with creative lighting effects.
From there, you'll want to start playing with off camera flash and remotely triggered flashes.
Best shit on earth!
[last edit 3/31/2009 5:39 PM by bourbonbaby - edited 1 times]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wojtek/ |
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 12 on 3/31/2009 7:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by olivialyon
i would if a could but i can't afford it!
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Shooting film is far cheaper than getting a DSLR and shooting with that, and it has a higher payoff. You can get a cheap Canon FD mount body and a few lenses for under $200, a box of 20 rolls of professional film (720 exposures) for around $70, and it costs at most $4 to develop each roll (without prints). That right there is half as much as a decent (new) DSLR kit.
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 13 on 3/31/2009 7:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Shooting film is far cheaper than getting a DSLR and shooting with that, and it has a higher payoff. You can get a cheap Canon FD mount body and a few lenses for under $200, a box of 20 rolls of professional film (720 exposures) for around $70, and it costs at most $4 to develop each roll (without prints). That right there is half as much as a decent (new) DSLR kit.
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Sadly, as a digital shooter ($100 point-and-shoot) I've gotten into the habit of taking many shots - as many as 30 per hour on drain trips. I guess I need to challenge myself to improve my ability to compose the first time.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 14 on 3/31/2009 7:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by AnAppleSnail
Sadly, as a digital shooter ($100 point-and-shoot) I've gotten into the habit of taking many shots - as many as 30 per hour on drain trips. I guess I need to challenge myself to improve my ability to compose the first time.
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Thats another great aspect of film. I've learned way more since I started shooting film and become better much faster than if I had stuck strictly to digital.
Dont get me wrong, I still shoot digital a lot, but I prefer film much more.
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 15 on 3/31/2009 9:18 PM >
| | | | Posted by willskith
Shooting film is far cheaper than getting a DSLR and shooting with that, and it has a higher payoff. You can get a cheap Canon FD mount body and a few lenses for under $200, a box of 20 rolls of professional film (720 exposures) for around $70, and it costs at most $4 to develop each roll (without prints). That right there is half as much as a decent (new) DSLR kit.
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thing is, i already have about 1,500 invested in my dslr, lenses, tripod, accessories, bags, etc.
i DO have two film slrs, one canon FC-1, and one minolta XG-1.
i use them on occasion, but not much.
im also addicted my my digital ways, like taking upwards or 300 pictures in one trip.
im enrolled in a photography class next year for school, its a new course, and im trying to talk the teacher into a film unit, we'll see i guess.
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 16 on 3/31/2009 9:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by bourbonbaby
**EDIT**
I just read the post and realized that my question was answered in the first post if I'd have read it properly.
You could probably get away with a Canon 420EX (or an off brand sunpack, vivitar or something of the sort). Something along these lines will give you TTL flash and communicate effectively with the camera thus making it a bit easier to do what you gots to do. These aren't the most powerful flashes, but it'll give you a good start, plus it makes a WORLD of difference in the rest of your photography. Having a separate flash that has a swivel head is SO MUCH ridiculously better looking that you'll wish you could tear off your on camera flash and poop on it. Also getting used to dealing with balancing flash and daylight gives you some great experience with creative lighting effects.
From there, you'll want to start playing with off camera flash and remotely triggered flashes.
Best shit on earth!
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so i just looked into one on kijiji (i buy most of my equipment used cause it saves a lot of money and i don't really care as long as it works like it should) and there is one listed for 200, which means i could probably get it for 160. I think it would be the answer to a lot of my problems! and, i just got a job yesterday so i can actually buy it!
thanks!
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bourbonbaby
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 17 on 4/1/2009 3:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by olivialyon
so i just looked into one on kijiji (i buy most of my equipment used cause it saves a lot of money and i don't really care as long as it works like it should) and there is one listed for 200, which means i could probably get it for 160. I think it would be the answer to a lot of my problems! and, i just got a job yesterday so i can actually buy it!
thanks!
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No problemo!
The next simple thing you will want to get is another cheap ass adjustable power flash that you can trigger with a little optical slave trigger (triggered by your main flash) It's a really basic way to play with multiple flashes.
Also, I recommend playing around in the DIY flash accessory world, grid snoots, reflectors etc. pennies each, and AWESOME results!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wojtek/ |
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olive
Location: hamilton
Gender: Female
good plan, poorly executed.
| | | Re: Having trouble with back lighting.
<Reply # 18 on 4/1/2009 10:00 AM >
| | | | Posted by bourbonbaby
No problemo!
The next simple thing you will want to get is another cheap ass adjustable power flash that you can trigger with a little optical slave trigger (triggered by your main flash) It's a really basic way to play with multiple flashes.
Also, I recommend playing around in the DIY flash accessory world, grid snoots, reflectors etc. pennies each, and AWESOME results!
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yeah, my mom has one of those white board for bouncing light off stuff.
i claimed it a while ago and its mine now. its pretty cool and it actually works!
Sorry, what was that you were saying about forever alone? |
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