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 El_Gordo_Uno
   
Location: Wenatchee, Washington
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<Reply # 20 on 2/20/2004 8:13 AM >
|  | | | Don't you guys forget about the 'Hanta Virus'.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hanta/hps/
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BigPoppaMikey
 
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<Reply # 21 on 3/1/2004 7:07 PM >
|  | | | The risk is up to you. The reward is your life. I am a chemical engineer with an internationally known company, been doing the job for seven years and have a masters in chem eng. I deal with hazardous, industrial, medical, and ecological waste on a daily basis and go into some pretty tight spots... I have seen what just a few minutes or seconds will do to a person without the proper Personal Protection Equipment (PPE). I also know from experience. If there is ANY doubt, carry that bulky mask or die. It IS as simple as that...
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'Dukes
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| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 22 on 3/2/2004 12:37 AM >
| | | | Any chance you work for National Lead?
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BigPoppaMikey
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| | | | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 23 on 3/2/2004 12:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by 'Dukes
Any chance you work for National Lead?
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Look at the hat in the picture and do a web search...
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Viper
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Gender: Male
Trespassing On!
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<Reply # 24 on 3/2/2004 9:27 AM >
|  | | | Posted by clark
but still, as i said, positive proof that asbestos is a cancer-causing agent is yet to be found. that doesn't mean it's a risk worth taking, but it's just something to think about. |
Just like for decades the tobacco industry and their "studies" said smoking does not contribute to lung cancer? Studies can be wrong or inaccurate you know. Safety first, cancer last.
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BigPoppaMikey
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| | | | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 25 on 3/2/2004 4:41 PM >
| | | | Asbestos IS a cancer-causing agent, just ask all those people who have contracted it... What is comes down to is do you want to risk cancer for one infiltration???
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Uncle Goose
Location: Ghent, Belgium
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The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 26 on 3/9/2004 3:56 PM >
| | | | I doubt if one exploration would cause cancer, it's mostly of repeated exposure that your risk gets higher. Also, Smoking is boosting up the risk (about 10%) of getting cancer by asbestos.
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Viper
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Gender: Male
Trespassing On!
| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 27 on 3/9/2004 6:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by Uncle Goose
I doubt if one exploration would cause cancer, it's mostly of repeated exposure that your risk gets higher. Also, Smoking is boosting up the risk (about 10%) of getting cancer by asbestos.
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Even if there is a minute chance that you could get cancer from multiple exposures from asbestos, that's a good enough reason for me to drop a chunk of cash to buy a decent respirator. I don't think people that wear masks look like tools (under the masks however might be a different story). Sure masks might be a bit bulky or uncomfortable, but that's a small price to pay to prevent/reduce future problems from asbestos exposure.
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
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| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 28 on 3/9/2004 7:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Uncle Goose
I doubt if one exploration would cause cancer, it's mostly of repeated exposure that your risk gets higher. Also, Smoking is boosting up the risk (about 10%) of getting cancer by asbestos.
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Actually, according to every source I've seen, smokers are 30 times more likley to develope cancer related to asbestos exposure...
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Capone
Location: London, Ontario
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<Reply # 29 on 3/9/2004 7:13 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
Actually, according to every source I've seen, smokers are 30 times more likley to develope cancer related to asbestos exposure...
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Indeed. Which is why (as a smoker) I always wear my respirator when I know asbestos is around. Why take a risk when you can pay a few bucks and eliminate that risk?
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Chainsaw
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| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 30 on 3/9/2004 10:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
Actually, according to every source I've seen, smokers are 30 times more likley to develope cancer related to asbestos exposure...
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Yup, and that's exactly why I only take my respirator off to smoke...
Really, I usually bring my respirator - when I don't know what to expect, I wear it - once I know there's low/no dust I'll take it off (and smoke a cigarette, I'm so bad).
FYI- I'm very careful with my smokes - I don't litter and am very careful with fire hazards.
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RadEd
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<Reply # 31 on 3/10/2004 1:45 AM >
| | | | I have some 30$ russian "gas masks", they're a lot of fun to wear and they look very entertaining. Psycho Mantis wears one very similar in metal gear, except mine is rubber and wraps around my head, improving its alien quality.
The great fun of wearing one greatly outweighs any discomfort.
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'Dukes
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| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 32 on 3/10/2004 3:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by RadEd
I have some 30$ russian "gas masks", they're a lot of fun to wear and they look very entertaining. Psycho Mantis wears one very similar in metal gear, except mine is rubber and wraps around my head, improving its alien quality.
The great fun of wearing one greatly outweighs any discomfort.
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I suppose you're right on that one, sometimes using equipment (even if not necessary) can be entertaining.
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Uncle Goose
Location: Ghent, Belgium
Gender: Male
The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 33 on 3/10/2004 2:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by RadEd
I have some 30$ russian "gas masks", they're a lot of fun to wear and they look very entertaining. Psycho Mantis wears one very similar in metal gear, except mine is rubber and wraps around my head, improving its alien quality.
The great fun of wearing one greatly outweighs any discomfort.
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Russian "hood"masks are commonly made from Latex and not rubber. If you wear it frequently you can get skinproblems, therefore I prefere to wear real rubber masks suchs as The british S10 or the Swiss SM90. 30$ is way overpriced for a russian hoodmask, you can get those for like 5$ if you look on the internet.
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
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| | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 35 on 3/11/2004 7:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by RadEd
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Funny: A friend of mine bought one exactly like that (except gray instead of black) at Ragstock in the mall of america for $8 the other day. I don't know why Ragstock is selling gas masks, but they are.
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chromatose
Location: San Antonio, TX
Gender: Male
I am a perfectly normal human worm-baby.
| | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 36 on 3/11/2004 1:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by RadEd
I have some 30$ russian "gas masks", they're a lot of fun to wear and they look very entertaining. Psycho Mantis wears one very similar in metal gear, except mine is rubber and wraps around my head, improving its alien quality.
The great fun of wearing one greatly outweighs any discomfort.
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will a gas mask protect from asbestos the same way that a respirator will?
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PAWolf
Not from Pennsylvania
Location: KCMO
Gender: Male
We haven't located us yet.
| | | | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 37 on 3/11/2004 1:38 PM >
| | | | Posted by chromatose
will a gas mask protect from asbestos the same way that a respirator will?
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Yes, but it might get clogged faster since it'll catch more stuff than a normal asbestos filter.
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Ferret
Location: Toronto
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<Reply # 38 on 3/11/2004 4:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by chromatose
will a gas mask protect from asbestos the same way that a respirator will?
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No, it will not. Gas masks and respirators all use similar cartridges, but those cartridges are function specific - ie dust, vapour, airborne oil. A cartridge system intened for gases will do very little for particles. You can, however, get particle filters that fit on existing cartridges.
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PAWolf
Not from Pennsylvania
Location: KCMO
Gender: Male
We haven't located us yet.
| | | | | Re: Respirator Risk/Reward
<Reply # 39 on 3/11/2004 5:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ferret
No, it will not. Gas masks and respirators all use similar cartridges, but those cartridges are function specific - ie dust, vapour, airborne oil. A cartridge system intened for gases will do very little for particles. You can, however, get particle filters that fit on existing cartridges.
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I don't think that's totally right. It was my understanding that modern gasmask cartridges consist of a particle filter for dust in front of an activated charcoal filter for vapor and chemicals. That way the person wearing the gasmask doesn't have to worry about what exact toxin may be in the air, the filter will get all of it. As far as respirators go, they are specific since if your wearing one your trying to guard against a specific thing rather than enemies hurling an assortment of nasties at you.
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