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Stupid question about manholes
< on 11/26/2008 8:59 PM >
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To experienced drainers:

About how many manholes are sewer and drains? There are some in my area, that all they say on them is Neenah. These lids don't specify what they are. Some manhole covers do say SEWER on them. But about how many times out of 10 do you find that a manhole happens to be a drain?

I realize there is not really a way to answer this, so I'd just like to draw off your experience from what you've found out. Also, I realize different cities have things set up differently. But I'm just curious.

Thanks

Also there are some manholes in parks in my city that are raised above the ground a few feet by bricks or stones that say sewer on them, but I hear fast running water in them almost all the time.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 1 on 11/26/2008 9:36 PM >
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Depends on what sort of system they have where you are, if they are combined systems,then they always have poo, if they are separate, most likely still poo. I find most drains I have explored have very few man holes, most can only be done through inlet/outfall or one or two manholes along the whole length. We have the raised ones here too, they always have ass grease in them. If you listen to the lid and hear fast flow, then its generally a blind mullet stew in there. Try taking a sniff around the little holes that you put your lifting tool into, If it smells like sewer (you know if it does) don't go in it. If you cant hear flow or smell it, try popping it, if it is sewer you will know as soon as it is cracked....or if your like me open it too much and have shit particles go flying 2m into the air because you opened a preassigned sewer (i now try to avoid man holes and look for the outfall)

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 2 on 11/26/2008 10:00 PM >
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where i live, the sewers and storm drain systems are separate. the storm drains have manholes, the underground power cables, fiberoptics, etc have manholes and the sewer has manholes. i've found that each cover is labelled with the corresponding information. i rarely enter a storm drain through a manhole, prefer to enter at the outlet.



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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 3 on 11/26/2008 10:13 PM >
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I'm fortunate to live in a well-organised city, so manhole covers tend to be very consistent. Once I'd popped one or two sewer manholes, I had an idea which covers were which (who would have thought the ones that said "stormwater" were stormwater drains?).

Like MIAD said, anything raised is a sewer, here.

Amusingly, the first time a friend and I ever popped a sewer manhole, it was raised, about chest height. We hauled the heavy lid up, looked in, and the smell of festering detergent hit. We looked at each other, and dropped the lid back heavily into place. Unfortunately, doing that caused a ring of condensed poo to blast out in all directions Live and learn...

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 4 on 11/27/2008 3:31 AM >
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Hmmm, I see. I think I'll stick to outlets.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 5 on 11/27/2008 6:33 AM >
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Posted by Mantis
Hmmm, I see. I think I'll stick to outlets.


Don't give up on manholes too quickly - sometimes a manhole entrance can get you places you wouldn't otherwise reach.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 6 on 11/27/2008 2:28 PM >
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What happens if you're caught opening a manhole, or about to? Would city/park/maintenance workers try to hold you until the police arrive? And what would happen if a cop caught you in the act of opening a manhole?

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 7 on 11/27/2008 7:46 PM >
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just explore everything and anything you find, sewers, drains, etc....

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 8 on 11/27/2008 9:01 PM >
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Posted by Mantis
What happens if you're caught opening a manhole, or about to? Would city/park/maintenance workers try to hold you until the police arrive? And what would happen if a cop caught you in the act of opening a manhole?


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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 9 on 11/27/2008 9:10 PM >
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Posted by Mantis
What happens if you're caught opening a manhole, or about to? Would city/park/maintenance workers try to hold you until the police arrive? And what would happen if a cop caught you in the act of opening a manhole?


I guess if you show up in T-shirt and jeans with a flashlight and crowbar, yeah you'd get stopped. But how often do you see anyone question someone (Or better yet, two people) in hi-vis and hard-hat, with a few traffic cones? Heck, even the Ghostbusters got away with that! Do what you can to look like you belong, and very few people will even think to wonder if you shouldn't be there after all.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 10 on 11/27/2008 9:59 PM >
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Posted by Mantis
What happens if you're caught opening a manhole, or about to? Would city/park/maintenance workers try to hold you until the police arrive? And what would happen if a cop caught you in the act of opening a manhole?


In my experience with cops and manhole covers have a laugh with them, tell a bad joke about a shortcut to china, close the lid and explore. Fuck maintenance and park workers. You think the average guy on minimum wage will try restrain you and risk fisticuffs?

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 11 on 11/27/2008 10:46 PM >
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Posted by dsankt


In my experience with cops and manhole covers have a laugh with them, tell a bad joke about a shortcut to china, close the lid and explore. Fuck maintenance and park workers. You think the average guy on minimum wage will try restrain you and risk fisticuffs?

High viz + hardhat + boots == near invisibility.


I just got a high viz vest...looking to abuse* it soon.



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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 12 on 11/27/2008 11:42 PM >
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Posted by AnAppleSnail


I guess if you show up in T-shirt and jeans with a flashlight and crowbar, yeah you'd get stopped. But how often do you see anyone question someone (Or better yet, two people) in hi-vis and hard-hat, with a few traffic cones? Heck, even the Ghostbusters got away with that! Do what you can to look like you belong, and very few people will even think to wonder if you shouldn't be there after all.


LOL, I've got some coveralls, and several cheap helmets I bought for like 50 cents for props for a stupid movie I was gonna make. I'll have to get a hi-vis and hit it.

Hah, knowing my luck, the real water company guys would pull up just then.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 13 on 11/27/2008 11:44 PM >
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Posted by dsankt


In my experience with cops and manhole covers have a laugh with them, tell a bad joke about a shortcut to china, close the lid and explore. Fuck maintenance and park workers. You think the average guy on minimum wage will try restrain you and risk fisticuffs?

High viz + hardhat + boots == near invisibility.



friend and i have often taken to wearing workwear when out popping manhole covers on reccon walks

we've popped covers in high visibility areas with traffic on main roads and lots of pedestrians and no one blinks an eye lid

u see someone in workwear in a building or entering a manhole......what would you think ?

nothing of it.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 14 on 11/27/2008 11:49 PM >
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Posted by dsankt
You think the average guy on minimum wage will try restrain you and risk fisticuffs?


No, I worry they'll call someone bigger to come and molest me. I remember waiting hours for a 102 year-old BCC worker to finish watering the plants so I could get into Toadie.

But then, I worry too much.

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 15 on 11/28/2008 11:59 AM >
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Wow, a member from my own city, actually posting!

Heya Metawaffle.

When you were trying to get into Toadie, was that before or after they changed everything around?

Feel free to message me if you want to hit something up, as everyone else seems to be scared off by that guys death.

Also, I climbed out of Darkie back-exit last week to find a group of Japanese tourists staring and pointing at me talking gibberish... They didnt tell the BCC guy standing just around the corner.

Now I've got that feeling once again, I can't explain, You would not understand, This is not how I am... I have become, Comfortably Numb...
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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 16 on 11/28/2008 12:39 PM >
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Wow, a member from my own city, actually posting!

Heya Metawaffle.

When you were trying to get into Toadie, was that before or after they changed everything around?

Feel free to message me if you want to hit something up, as everyone else seems to be scared off by that guys death.

Also, I climbed out of Darkie back-exit last week to find a group of Japanese tourists staring and pointing at me talking gibberish... They didnt tell the BCC guy standing just around the corner.


Yeah, I'm yet to come out there any time of night, and not have someone having a barbecue nearby As for Toadie, this was a while back, and it wasn't the entrance that has been recently affected by public works.

I'd be interested to hear what your friends' thoughts are re the drowning. Feel free to PM if you'd rather not air dirty laundry in public

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 17 on 11/30/2008 3:04 AM >
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Depends on the area. Around my friends house there are two separate systems which have access through drainage tunnels, man holes, and sealed man holes (I suggest not going in those ones unless you have a gas mask on, and are willing to burn whatever you wear in there. Or just think tide!

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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 18 on 11/30/2008 3:13 AM >
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Posted by RochesterMNexplorer
Depends on the area. Around my friends house there are two separate systems which have access through drainage tunnels, man holes, and sealed man holes (I suggest not going in those ones unless you have a gas mask on, and are willing to burn whatever you wear in there. Or just think tide!


What do you mean by sealed? Like a concrete cap? Some of the new construction around here employs this technique, but its strickly a sewer. You still have manholes, tho.
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Re: Stupid question about manholes
<Reply # 19 on 12/18/2008 1:04 PM >
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Just something I've noticed (along with that sewers are sometimes raised up out of the ground, which was mentioned before) is that in my area, the covers for the sewers are about 2-3x as heavy as the covers for the drains. It may or may not be the same in your area but you could try popping a few manholes to see if you notice any are heavier than others.

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