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 don_corleyone
   
Location: F/RoX
Gender: Male
I have abandonment issues
 |  | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 20 on 11/26/2008 3:55 PM >
|  | | | please let me run into someone wearing these some day.
PLEASE.
leave the gun. take the cannoli.
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Johnny Mnemonic
 
Location: Houston, TX (Previously Dallas)
Gender: Male
I don't know, either.
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 21 on 11/26/2008 7:36 PM >
| | | | You'll probably get your wish if you're ever in my area, Don... I'm likely to wind up in a tunnel somewhere with these things... :]
"You can't let the little pricks generation-gap you." |
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Mantis
Excuese me, do you have a mint?
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 22 on 11/26/2008 8:32 PM >
|  | | | You look way too awesome in those lol. Did this thread influence you to go out and buy some lol?
[last edit 11/26/2008 8:36 PM by Mantis - edited 1 times]
"From down here, we can knock the whole wall down!"
"Duh, yeah, boss, but how do we get out?"
Geeks like science fiction and technology. Programmers make things the geeks like. Hackers do for fun the things the programmers get paid for. |
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Lord
 
above and beyond
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 23 on 11/27/2008 12:22 AM >
| | | | I am right now in my head Budgeting to see if I can really afford this what with the shutdowns over the next two months and all..
cuz its win.. but for $50 or so more you can get cool ones at Canadian Tire that are professional.. ones an eyepiece
I will defeat that which was once untouchable only so that I may now move on |
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Mantis
Excuese me, do you have a mint?
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 24 on 11/27/2008 2:20 PM >
| | | | A thought just crossed my mind, are spiders or other nasties/animals attracted to infrared light? Because the last thing I need is for a giant spider to find interest in me.
"From down here, we can knock the whole wall down!"
"Duh, yeah, boss, but how do we get out?"
Geeks like science fiction and technology. Programmers make things the geeks like. Hackers do for fun the things the programmers get paid for. |
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Johnny Mnemonic
Location: Houston, TX (Previously Dallas)
Gender: Male
I don't know, either.
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 25 on 11/30/2008 5:33 AM >
| | | | Yeah, it looks like they might be a tad IR-happy, but I think it might be the bugs mistaking it for heat... As long as you don't stand still for more than four hours I'm sure it'd be fine...
http://www.bbssecu...o.uk/bbs_blog.html
"You can't let the little pricks generation-gap you." |
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\/adder
 
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| |  | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 26 on 12/2/2008 3:40 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mantis
I don't know how long it lasts, but at Target and Walmart right now they have night vision (infrared) goggles in the toy department for only $50! I bought one and I must say it's worth it. Just don't expect it to be top of the line like what the military uses, but it's pretty decent.
It takes 5 AA batteries.
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what brand?
*edit* nevermind...
My router is being a pain in the ass tonight. (About time I flash it with DD-WRT) It keeps displaying only half the posts and dropping my connections; I just saw the arstechnica link.
[last edit 12/2/2008 3:47 AM by \/adder - edited 1 times]
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Sand
Location: Pac South
Everything interesting is always behind a fence.
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 27 on 12/2/2008 4:27 AM >
| | | | Man. You're better off with some $400 pair of Generation I goggles...seriously....
I want Gen III but of course I don't have $5,000....so I'm waiting patiently for some Gen II's to get cheap. I believe some have the option of turning off the infrared so that you can't be detected and it won't bounce off windows and such, enabling you to see inside vehicles and buildings. At least, I think that's what I read....could be wrong.
I've also wondered about hunter's heatseekers for finding guards (they're used to find dying deer). A very, very poor man's tool, I guess.
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 28 on 12/2/2008 5:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by sandaili
Man. You're better off with some $400 pair of Generation I goggles...seriously....
I want Gen III but of course I don't have $5,000....so I'm waiting patiently for some Gen II's to get cheap. I believe some have the option of turning off the infrared so that you can't be detected and it won't bounce off windows and such, enabling you to see inside vehicles and buildings. At least, I think that's what I read....could be wrong.
I've also wondered about hunter's heatseekers for finding guards (they're used to find dying deer). A very, very poor man's tool, I guess.
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It sounds like a fun toy, except that 1st gen gear is not even $400 anymore, but actually $100, I think there are some better options.
http://www.buy.com...=17070&dcaid=17070
[last edit 12/2/2008 5:27 PM by MindHacker - edited 1 times]
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 29 on 12/4/2008 5:52 AM >
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I'll match your link with some online "Koo-pins".
http://www.dealigg...75-5-off-50-more-1
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 30 on 12/4/2008 2:24 PM >
| | | |
Ecto popper shoots 6 feet? Damn sound slike a nice evening...errrrrrrrrrrr.....
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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Quarantine
Location: Denver
Gender: Female
retired former old-school UE'er
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 31 on 12/6/2008 7:42 PM >
| | | | These sound pretty neat. Gen-1 gear will give ya better illumination and image BUT cheap Gen-1 kit are usually spotting scopes, not actual goggles.
As for the issue with these only showing one image- has anyone tried splicing two goggles together and having vision on both sides? Sounds like epic win to me... Iminna check the Target up the street for these. I'll report back in.
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Quarantine
Location: Denver
Gender: Female
retired former old-school UE'er
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 32 on 12/8/2008 7:10 AM >
| | | | I bought a pair last night with the intention of trying some Urbexin' with them and promptly returned them not two hours later (unused except in the Target parking lot) so as to not trip and die. They really do work, however to be useful (and safe) for exploring some changes need to be made.
First, the camera is located in the middle of the wearer's forehead and a couple inches above the eyes. This makes for a spectacularly disorienting experience when movement is involved.
Second, they ARE meant more for kids than adults so while the straps get plenty long the goggles themselves are pretty tight , especially with glasses.
Third, the IR illuminator is pretty weak. The packaging's claim of 50ft range is the absolute limit of what will be visible.
For the price the goggles are pretty nifty, but for IR kit I'll be going with a monocular-style unit that I can use much like a flashlight but stealthier. As-is these goggles are probably pretty dangerous for Urbexing. HOWEVER, with some modifications they'd be pretty bitchin! With some skill and patience, one could turn two of these units into a decent set of binocular goggles; the IR illuminator could be moved from the right eye to the forehead and a camera could be placed in front of each eye and to keep the weight reasonable a pair of 6.5v rechargeable battery packs (maybe ones meant for cordless phones?) could replace AA's. That done they'd be pretty snazzy! Just be careful if you try them as-is, they're a fun gadget but given the price you get what you pay for.
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 33 on 12/8/2008 4:02 PM >
| | | | Thanks for the review man! I was thinking about trying them out, but couldn't convince myself to do it, especially since I know I'd be chopping them apart to "improve" them... Maybe I'll wait till after xmas and see if anyone on ebay manages to break theirs...
Would an IR modded flashlight help these out, or is the problem more in the camera than in the illumination?
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Quarantine
Location: Denver
Gender: Female
retired former old-school UE'er
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 34 on 12/8/2008 5:46 PM >
| | | | An IR modded torch would give you more visible range but the problem of the disorienting camera placement is, in my opinion, a bigger issue with these than illumination.
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BlackCoffee
Location: mississauga ontario
Gender: Male
BISHUFFULAR
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 35 on 2/23/2009 7:43 PM >
| | | | came across this a while back
http://www.instruc...sion-Headset-Hack/
could be fun if you are a dyi nerd with some extra cash. from what i gather the image you get from them is compairable to the toy goggles and i have no idea if the led's are visible with the naked eye. however, being home made i would imagine you could get around the pesky peripheral vision problem by adding a second view finder or camera or both. haven't built one my self yet as the price for the camera needed alone makes it beyond my means at the moment.
brap.
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y2knowledge
Location: Dallas, TX
Gender: Male
| |  |  | | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 36 on 2/24/2009 4:36 PM >
| | | | Has anyone ever thought about how unsafe night vision could possibly be? I mean, yes, they help one see in pitch black darkness. BUT, the fine line between being safe and being seen are real. With night vision you don't get any real depth perception so if you're climbing those sky high girders or shuffling in a drainage tunnel with debris everywhere then you're setting yourself up for trouble.
Back when I was in the military we would have to practice 100% night discipline so during mock attacks we wouldn't be spotted as easily (in theory at least). While wearing NVG's one would trip, fall, bang, and otherwise be a drunken walking mess WHILE trying to be stealthy. Sooooo, enter the red filtered flashlight. Sure it was more noticeable at night BUT sine red doesn't travel as far it wasn't really a huge factor. Hell, a cigarette cherry light would travel further
Granted it's better then nothing but I more likely recommend a red lighted LED or regular red filtered flashlight.
Oh, and a whole slew of problems begins when you finally do decide to go with night vision. Are they binocular? Are you willing to give up your peripheral vision? Are they "cyclopian", meaning, your depth of vision is shot even more? PRICEY, hello drop! The list goes on and on.
Hell, to fully solve those problems (minus those involving depth) you'll need Panoramic Night Vision Goggles, and even those are in the test phases right now.
The cheapy Eyeclops from Target is a TOY, so don't expect much from it. Grab two red LED or red filtered LED torches, bootleg em onto a head harness and keep your vision 100%. ANd if you accidentally kill your investment you won't be out half as much as with the Eyeclops, or more with real night vision.
Just my opinion though...
My name is Legion, for we are many... |
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takeonlypictures
Location: Arizona
Barbed wire is the enemy!
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 37 on 5/11/2009 1:06 AM >
| | | | Thats awesome! Do you have a link or something to the specific product?
Take only what will not be missed, leave only what will not be noticed. |
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Cerealx59
Location: Minneapolis Minnesota
Gender: Male
There is always a Path.
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 38 on 5/22/2009 3:17 AM >
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Here ya go.
http://www.walmart...roduct_id=10340612
Enjoy
But now let us descend to greater woe. Already every star sinks that was rising when I set out, and too long stay is forbidden.- Dante |
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femaledragonx
Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: You can buy CHEAP night vision goggles now
<Reply # 39 on 5/22/2009 3:24 AM >
| | | | oh hell yeah. buying a pair tomorrow.
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