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GAM1
Location: York, Pa. Gender: Male
| | Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) < on 5/26/2008 9:14 AM >
| | | There are some serious flaws in this picture, but I still really like it.
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| | | | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 1 on 5/26/2008 9:20 AM >
| | | pano and HDR, how many shots?
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GAM1
Location: York, Pa. Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 2 on 5/26/2008 9:23 AM >
| | | Posted by dsankt pano and HDR, how many shots?
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it's not that many, maybe 12
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Chthonian
Location: Ottawa, ON Gender: Male
In search of the city beneath
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 3 on 5/26/2008 11:22 AM >
| | | A lot of people hate HDR because it's so often just thrown together in Photoshop's automatic HDR function and left alone from that point, which almost always makes for an ugly shot. I personally quite like this, only issue I've got with it is the rocks and gravel in the bottom left corner, it's all really blown out. I'm sure you've got a shot in there where it's exposed better that you could mask over that or something. Other than that, I rather like it, good work.
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GAM1
Location: York, Pa. Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 4 on 5/26/2008 5:42 PM >
| | | Posted by umbra A lot of people hate HDR because it's so often just thrown together in Photoshop's automatic HDR function and left alone from that point, which almost always makes for an ugly shot.
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I agree, unless you tone it right it looks to crazy. I like subtle HDR so it just looks vibrant.
Posted by umbra I personally quite like this, only issue I've got with it is the rocks and gravel in the bottom left corner, it's all really blown out. I'm sure you've got a shot in there where it's exposed better that you could mask over that or something.
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Yeah I agree, unfortunately the rocks are bright white and I don't have a less exposed shot of them.
Posted by umbra Other than that, I rather like it, good work.
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Thanks I am trying real hard to get panoramas down. This is the 6th one that I have done maybe 7th and it is only the 2nd that I find acceptable at all.
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Chthonian
Location: Ottawa, ON Gender: Male
In search of the city beneath
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 5 on 5/27/2008 6:17 AM >
| | | It's good to hear that you're working hard at trying to figure them out - I personally haven't even attempted one yet, beyond fiddling around with an old panoramic film camera I found in my basement. Shame to hear about the rocks though, that's really the only part of the shot that bugs me, except for maybe the generic train-car subject... but even then, it's a subject made for panos.
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flux
Location: North Carolina Gender: Male
so many places... so little time...
| | | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 6 on 5/27/2008 10:11 PM >
| | | That's a pretty good shot, almost looks like a fish eye lens!!
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Max12
Location: The Rotten Apple
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 7 on 5/28/2008 2:46 AM >
| | | such a chill shot
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snordhol
Location: Huntington Beach, CA Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 8 on 6/5/2008 10:26 PM >
| | | Your awesome shot now hangs in my cube!
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resonance
Location: Western New York / Niagara region Gender: Male
I'm the one looking while nobody is looking.
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 9 on 6/6/2008 6:53 AM >
| | | Nice work! Only thing that bugs me is the slight halo effect (hdr artifact i guess) around the tops of the boxcars. Feathering that out or tightening it up more? Did you use a real pano head or a straight tripod? One of the hard things is rotating the camera without getting paralax errors, if it's rotated around the normal mount point instead of the entrance pupil of the lens.
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DJ Craig Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 10 on 6/6/2008 9:45 AM >
| | | Love it! Great job, both on the photography and the Photoshopping! Especially with panos and HDRs, the amount of time you put into the Photoshopping really does make a huge difference. If you hadn't said, I never would have known this was pano or HDR.
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GAM1
Location: York, Pa. Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 11 on 6/6/2008 11:59 PM >
| | | Posted by resonance Nice work! Only thing that bugs me is the slight halo effect (hdr artifact i guess) around the tops of the boxcars. Feathering that out or tightening it up more? Did you use a real pano head or a straight tripod? One of the hard things is rotating the camera without getting paralax errors, if it's rotated around the normal mount point instead of the entrance pupil of the lens.
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The funny thing is that I usually shoot panos handheld, this one was. Crazy right? I seem to match it up better than when on a tripod. I do not have a pano head but i think that I am gonna eventually get one.
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terapr0
Location: Sauga City Gender: Male
www . tohellandback . net
| | | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 12 on 6/7/2008 3:11 PM >
| | | awesome shot man. I dont care what anyone says....HDR is hot. Ive fallen in love it myself as of late. Its definitely tough to make them look subtle, but this one does the job nicely. very impressive you did this handheld too....Ive been meaning to make a pano head for some time, as my tripod shots always come out quite distorted.
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GAM1
Location: York, Pa. Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 13 on 6/7/2008 7:27 PM >
| | | Posted by terapr0 awesome shot man. I dont care what anyone says....HDR is hot. Ive fallen in love it myself as of late. Its definitely tough to make them look subtle, but this one does the job nicely. very impressive you did this handheld too....Ive been meaning to make a pano head for some time, as my tripod shots always come out quite distorted.
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I don't know what camera you are using, but here is the biggest trick that I learned. You have to have a constant focal length ( manual focus mode ) and the same white balance ( manual or set to outdoor, indoor, etc. ), the same exposure and f-stop are important as well. I also use Photoshop to stitch them together. But white balance and focus are the most important.
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GAM1
Location: York, Pa. Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 14 on 6/7/2008 7:29 PM >
| | | That is awesome!! glad you like it so much!
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 15 on 6/9/2008 5:54 PM >
| | | I like this a lot. I too am trying to get down panos. I shoot them entirely manual and have the same settings for each shot, stitch them and then treat it as I would a single image. Its working okay for me
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mortimer
Location: teronno
| | | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 16 on 6/9/2008 8:19 PM >
| | | First off, you don't need hdr for this photo, it's just a waste of time and disk space. Image > Adjustments > Shadow/Highlight would give you the same glowing foreground effect with much less effort and time involved. Also, if you've got blown-out areas like the gravel, you're not bracketing enough to truly create high dynamic range - which is kinda the point of hdr. You've still only got maybe 6 stops of dynamic range in this image, which means you're using hdr as a special effect and not a tool - in which case the shadow/highlight tool is a faster and easier special effect if that's how you're choosing to use it. As for the pano aspect: not bad, although shooting a horizontal subject straight on will always make things look really 'fisheyed.' Aside from composition though, the technical part is pretty dead-on. Try changing your projection from cylindrical or auto to perspective (assuming you're using photoshop to create the pano). It might help this particular image a bit, although you'll be cropping a fair bit off the end images. And the subject matter - the car on the left is passable, but the one on the right is weak, and one of them's not even finished yet. Unless your point was to show graf in an ugly light, in which case, cool. As far as pano heads go, this kind of subject matter doesn't need one. It's only when you're shooting scenes with multiple planes that you need to start worrying about nodal points. For flat, single-plane scenes like this, there's no need. Keep at them, it's a useful trick to have up your sleeve once you really get your technique nailed down.
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snordhol
Location: Huntington Beach, CA Gender: Male
| | Re: Train Yard HDR and Panorama ( I know a lot of people hate HDR ) <Reply # 17 on 6/13/2008 11:59 PM >
| | | Fixed the link . . . .
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