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 Ardamass
     
Location: Dallas Tx
Gender: Female
Coming to a Drain near you
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<Reply # 40 on 3/10/2008 2:46 PM >
|  | | | Post by Hawkwind
Quote:
PS: 'Buy a bigger gun' may not be the answer to everything.
24 years ago I was hired to manage an adult bookstore in New Jersey USA.
I was told, by the owners, If you have a gun and shoot a holdup person you will get into alot more trouble than the holdup person.
Never got held up, but came really close.
The stories I could tell... |
Who robs a porn shack? thats just dumb
+ the Siws all have guns and their crime rate is really low because no one wants to get shot.
2 years of Akido and paying very close attention to my environment keeps form getting my ass handed to me.
But sometime that doesn't always work.
Man I sorry to hear you got beat hope you get better soon.
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Azubi.UK
 
Location: UK / KSA
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 41 on 3/10/2008 7:05 PM >
| | | | | im of the running ilk but have never had any reason to use either method, i try to be more aware of exits when im exploring and make careful note of what my options are should i need them |
Too fucking right! I know people who blunder round and when it comes on top they haven't a clue. I tend to check for ways out and landmarks to easily get around as I explore so if it does go to shit, I can get out easy enough.
Posted by turbozutek
It's not legal to wander around with a gun in the UK* (where I live) hence the above would form my primary not getting the fuck kicked out of me tactic. |
As far as I am aware, trespassing whilst carrying a firearm turns a misdemeanor into a felony and lands you in more shit. Granted each state will most probably have different laws but I can't see many straying from trespassing with a firearm = in the shit.
The 11th Commandment: Don't get caught! |
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Speed
Location: Philly area
Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 42 on 3/10/2008 7:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ardamass
Who robs a porn shack? thats just dumb
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adult bookstores are primarily all cash businesses. I'd hardly call it a dumb place to rob.
on topic:
the OP did the right thing by getting the fuck out IMHO.
I have no shame in saying I would have done the same.
to quote Kenny Rogers:
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
R.I.P. NickSan | R.I.P. Don Corleyone |
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mewthree
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 43 on 3/11/2008 2:37 PM >
| | | | I'd much rather run away or try and fight my way out of those odds then kill someone.
Besides, in the situation I doubt he had the chance to unfold a firearm if he had one.. he got smacked in the head a couple of times before he even had the opportunity to make distance and run off, never mind un-folding a gun etc.. load the fuckin thing.. point it at the person .. fire a test round to prove it's real cause they will for sure be skeptical.
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jackillac92
Location: Fredrick MD
Gender: Male
wtf is linux?
| | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 44 on 3/11/2008 10:18 PM >
| | | | WOW ! What jerks , what is wrong with some people!
'I am What I am' - "popeye" |
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Origato
| | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 45 on 3/12/2008 8:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by Gordon Bombay
I'd rather be a gun crazy American than an internet trolling Aussie.
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You are one hell of a fuck tard arn't you?
Clearly the use of the word "seriously" was indicating that the above was not serious. You are the troll you idiot. I wasn't picking on anyone. I wasn't having a go at anyone. But you decided to have a go at me. If there is anyone here that is a troll, you buddy are it. You're just playing games to be an asshole. I see through that.
I don't for one minute consider all Americans to be gun happy. The ones I've met rarely even talk about guns.
[last edit 3/12/2008 8:22 AM by Origato - edited 1 times]
Caution! This user is a wise ass and may use sarcasm.
Is my back pack good enough for UERing? |
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GEE TEE
Location: Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 46 on 3/12/2008 8:37 AM >
| | | | When we go out, normally we have at least one gun on us if not 2 and all of us carry a knife of some sort, so its nothing we had to worry about much...plus I'm a pretty big boy 
GEE TEE
www.myspace.com/urbanexplorerspa |
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blackhawk
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 47 on 3/12/2008 8:53 AM >
| | | | Posted by Origato
You are one hell of a fuck tard arn't you?
Clearly the use of the word "seriously" was indicating that the above was not serious. You are the troll you idiot. I wasn't picking on anyone. I wasn't having a go at anyone. But you decided to have a go at me. If there is anyone here that is a troll, you buddy are it. You're just playing games to be an asshole. I see through that.
I don't for one minute consider all Americans to be gun happy. The ones I've met rarely even talk about guns.
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Well you could simple say "Hey I was joking, bad joke..." rather than using a good assortment of perfectly useless profanities that are just ... feelings.
The original poster didn't have the option to run without getting the shit walloped out of him as he was trying to do so. He was very lucky.
Had I been in the same place, I would have wanted a gun, and I would have fired if i had it.
People who use deadly weapons, baseball bats, lead pipes (you know who you are and so do I!) to assault unarmed explorers deserve whatever they get, including a sudden death.
Otherwise I be tempted to charge the attacker rather than retreating, and the goal would be to reduce their weapons effectiveness, disarm, and/or to disable.
Never turn your back on an attacker unless your damn sure about what your doing!
Gordon Bombay is also a FM. Posting on hot threads (or creating them) like this one prolly isn't in your best interest unless you have a really good point to make.
-blackhawk
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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TurboZutek
 
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 48 on 3/12/2008 9:05 AM >
| | | | Posted by Azubi.UK
As far as I am aware, trespassing whilst carrying a firearm turns a misdemeanor into a felony and lands you in more shit. Granted each state will most probably have different laws but I can't see many straying from trespassing with a firearm = in the shit.
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That sounds logical and likely to me, but I know it's a heinous lie - because it runs contrary to everything BlackHawk is saying.
I doubt that our celebrated UE Expert could be wrong, so you must be Azubi. If BlackHawk says it's OK to take an assault rifle craftily disguised as a Rod Stewart Poster to an abandonment, then it must be true. Not only true, but an excellent idea also!
Sorry about that matey.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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blackhawk
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 49 on 3/12/2008 10:17 AM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
That sounds logical and likely to me, but I know it's a heinous lie - because it runs contrary to everything BlackHawk is saying.
I doubt that our celebrated UE Expert could be wrong, so you must be Azubi. If BlackHawk says it's OK to take an assault rifle craftily disguised as a Rod Stewart Poster to an abandonment, then it must be true. Not only true, but an excellent idea also!
Sorry about that matey.
Chris...
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I thought was cute I prefer a .45 for close quarters fighting.
It's b. bastard to you....
Another reason to get permission to be on a site.
Your CW is than valid, but the law dictates in most states, when not on your property or property under your care, that unless your defending someone else's life, you are required to retreat whenever possible.
Not sure about NJ, but in PA if you blow away an armed store robber, even as they are fleeing, no charges will be filed. Just don't hit any bystanders.
Most states provide that you can use lethal force to defend your life, and livelihood against an armed assailant.
-Better to be in jail than dead-
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 50 on 3/12/2008 10:42 AM >
| | | | So as long as we remember to:
1. Get permission to be somewhere.
2. Carry a gun.
Well, that sounds perfectly like the description of UE that I know and love.
This is clearly excellent advice; jail is preferable to keeping a low profile, being sensible at a site and not getting a kicking.
Right.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 51 on 3/12/2008 12:48 PM >
| | | | Ive already learned so much from this thread!
- Bringing a knife (or a teenage aikido master  ) to a gun fight is never good form!
- You can learn to run away and live to troll another day.
- Turbozutek secretly admires black "thats b.bastard to you" hawk.
- No matter what you say on UER you are wrong.
- The ratio of UERers that have been beaten to those that should be beaten is disproportionately low 
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jake baker
Location: toronto
life is short stunt it
| | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 52 on 3/12/2008 2:36 PM >
| | | | wow thats crazy ppll are nuts i scout by myself but i always go with ppll u never no could be some crazy s.o.b lurkin in a junk pile waiting to jump out at ya
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Wilk
Location: NYC
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 53 on 3/12/2008 5:26 PM >
| | | | I don't think guns are the answer to any problem. Tasers might be though.
Ready for liftoff
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AlphaCueUp
Location: Phoenix
| |  | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 54 on 3/12/2008 8:20 PM >
| | | | sucks that happened to you man....more proof thats its best never to explore alone.....
sounds like we should organize an ass-kick-pex to show these thug douches how it feels to receive a beating...
i always carry a knife...also....anything can serve as a weapon...anything from a pencil, to a flashlight....anything that's solid and can be swung...just about anything at all...not to mention fists, elbows, feet, and knees....
running is a good option too....most definitely the best kind of defeat one can endure
[last edit 3/12/2008 8:21 PM by AlphaCueUp - edited 1 times]
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Aye.Eye
Location: Wonderful Land of Oz
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 56 on 3/13/2008 3:03 AM >
| | | | I dont want this thread to get locked so please take all your bullshit to the 'Other' forum.
Here in Australia its almost impossible to obtain a concealed firearms licence, so that doesnt really help...
Im a chef so i know how to use my knives, but in the situation where a guy has a Baseball Bat and you have a 6" blade, I know who would win.
Next time Ill take mates with me.
Now I've got that feeling once again, I can't explain, You would not understand, This is not how I am... I have become, Comfortably Numb... |
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Gordon Bombay
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio.
Gender: Male
Queen City Disco
| | | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 57 on 3/13/2008 3:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
So as long as we remember to:
1. Get permission to be somewhere.
2. Carry a gun.
Well, that sounds perfectly like the description of UE that I know and love.
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What's the description of UE that you know and love then?
www.queencitydisco.com
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 58 on 3/13/2008 9:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by Gordon Bombay
What's the description of UE that you know and love then?
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Probably the 'classic' description.
For me it's turning up without permission (or with permission, whatever works best), getting inside, taking some photos, having a laugh and not having to worry about if I have enough ammunition for my AK.
In nearly 8 years of doing this I've never once had an issue with someone beating me up, robbing me, or pushing my shit in. That's not because there haven't been moments where one or all of the above could happen, but simply because of sensible measures like not wandering about in the open and quietly leaving if the going looks rough.
WTF kinda definition do you nutjobs subscribe to where your taking knifes and guns out exploring??
In my opinion, anyone who thinks 'UE' is about getting as many guns together as possible and then battling evil-doers while taking photos;
IS A FUCKING MORON.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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SaraBellum
Berkshire Hunt
Location: Villa Villekulla
Gender: Female
Coming to a cinema near you this summer.
| | | Re: Ever been beaten while exploring?
<Reply # 59 on 3/13/2008 11:56 AM >
| | | | Can this become a bigger dick waving contest, boys? Really.
I hope you feel better soon, Psycho.
[01:47:56] <GreyDeath> Sara just stares her enemies into submission and eventually madness
"You can either be wise or a bad-ass gangsta, but not both. You must choose your path." ~~metawaffle |
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