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Location: Canada
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<Reply # 20 on 2/17/2008 3:40 PM >
|  | | | Posted by masiakowski
How would you call it?  Or do you mean by the articles that you posted that we are actually gaining security of our lives? Well, giant biometric database, FBI requests to make it more detailed... Control = Security?
What did you mean then?
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I meant we've lost it long ago! 
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masiakowski
 
Location: Scotland | Poland
Gender: Male
Way To Illusion
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<Reply # 21 on 2/17/2008 4:01 PM >
| | | | Hahaha, okay. Now I got it
'None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.' Goethe |
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pcnate
Location: Michigan
Gender: Male
mmmmmm... manhole...
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<Reply # 22 on 2/17/2008 4:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ricky Smith
So, how often do people pop manhole covers? How likely are you to be caught?
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As far as I know, most people go through an entire (and rather boring) life not popping a single manhole. Public Works workers, Drainers, and Tunnelers on the other hand may do this often enough that it is a routine procedure. For UE, in my opinion the key to getting in without getting caught is to pop manholes in areas where not a lot of people are, and being sure there is no one around when you pop it. Some people also do some "social engineering" and dress up like DPW workers and use traffic cones, etc. I personally think that manhole popping is relatively low-risk if it is done responsibly. Drains in particular are not guarded with security like other UE attractions.
However, if we get these sorts of super-security cameras on streets, it will make it a lot more difficult.
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uLiveAndYouBurn
Location: Beyond
Anarchocommunist
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<Reply # 23 on 2/17/2008 4:05 PM >
| | | | The steam tunnel system I was in the other night had giant ratchet straps inside holding every manhole down. I guess thats one way to keep 'em from being "popped."
"Aint nothin' to it but to do it"
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
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<Reply # 24 on 2/17/2008 4:17 PM >
| | | | Unfortunately appropriate attire (hardhat, hiviz, barricades) is less of an invulnerable shield that we'd like. About a month ago a few of us were made by the one time. Do not rely upon your credprops, always have a backup plan.
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Alias
Location: UK
Gender: Male
www.nicholas-ada ms.co.uk
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<Reply # 25 on 2/17/2008 7:20 PM >
| | | | we explore london and that has more CCTV cameras than anywhere in the world, does not stop us just look like you are supposed to be there.
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
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<Reply # 26 on 2/20/2008 6:12 PM >
| | | | The U of M recently spent a bunch of money putting "behavior detecting" cameras in the steam tunnels. No one is quite sure why, since suspicious behavior in a steam tunnel means... anyone who's not a worker. They already had motion sensors on the cameras, but I guess the staff is so dumb they need special equipment to tell the difference between workers in hardhats and a dozen frat boys with 40s in their hands.
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
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Twystr
Location: 39.2N, 104.17W Elev. 6535ft
Gender: Male
Gimme Biggah Drayyyyynes!
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<Reply # 27 on 2/20/2008 11:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by Freak
The U of M recently spent a bunch of money putting "behavior detecting" cameras in the steam tunnels. No one is quite sure why, since suspicious behavior in a steam tunnel means... anyone who's not a worker. They already had motion sensors on the cameras, but I guess the staff is so dumb they need special equipment to tell the difference between workers in hardhats and a dozen frat boys with 40s in their hands.
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Thats messed up... to be honest, why not patrol the entrances and exits more often (and lock the manholes) - from a security standpoint, this setup is ideal... NOT that silly camera/Db thing that the Uni of Minnesota is doin!
"The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either."
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Silent Knight
Location: Niagara region
Gender: Male
Kastle Archives Productions Inc. (since 1999)
| | | Re: Potential Problem For Manhole Poppers
<Reply # 28 on 2/21/2008 2:25 AM >
| | | | Posted by masiakowski
I agree with Monster. We are losing freedom. Security cameras are watching our every days lives on streets, in apartment corridors even, reducing our privacy.
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Prior to security cameras - what expectation of "privacy" did you have on the streets and in apartment hallways?
If you think you're losing your freedoms to security cameras, don't blame the people who install and monitor them. Blame the criminals and offenders who created the situation.
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everybodyknows
Location: Ithaca, NY
bacon is meat candy
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<Reply # 29 on 2/21/2008 8:17 AM >
| | | | fortunately america is large enough that not everywhere is populated enough for that to be a problem.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." ~James Dean
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: Potential Problem For Manhole Poppers
<Reply # 30 on 2/25/2008 8:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by Silent Knight
Prior to security cameras - what expectation of "privacy" did you have on the streets and in apartment hallways?
If you think you're losing your freedoms to security cameras, don't blame the people who install and monitor them. Blame the criminals and offenders who created the situation.
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What about the gestapo and block wardens? They certainly got the job done effectively. We're just going about it in a more technologically advanced way.
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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