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UER Forum > Archived UE Photo Critiques > two to print (Viewed 486 times)
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two to print
< on 5/3/2007 7:23 PM >
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here are two of my most recent. i'm going to be printing them poster size, so i'm hoping i can get some advice and critiques.

in this one, i removed two areas i thought were distracting. if you can spot them, let me know so i can try again before i print



here's another i plan to print, after i fix the window a little better (i've tried a few times but haven't been happy with the results)




please feel free to tear them up... it'll only help me get better.

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 1 on 5/3/2007 8:21 PM >
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Being able to spot a photoshopped (I'm assuming) are at this scale is much different than at poster size.




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Re: two to print
<Reply # 2 on 5/3/2007 8:38 PM >
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for a print the garbage can in the first one takes away quite a bit...

I know from experience that it is okay to move stuff out of the way...just my 2 cents
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Re: two to print
<Reply # 3 on 5/3/2007 8:43 PM >
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Posted by dundertits
for a print the garbage can in the first one takes away quite a bit...

I know from experience that it is okay to move stuff out of the way...just my 2 cents


Ha! I put that can there with the sole intention of ruining Don's shot!

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 4 on 5/3/2007 10:58 PM >
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Ha! I put that can there with the sole intention of ruining Don's shot!

Another ambition achieved


d'oh! foiled again!!! ARRRGHGHGHGHGH

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 5 on 5/3/2007 11:18 PM >
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My advice is in this first picture your layout was just a little off. Maybe next time you can consider moving things around to get a better shot. The chair is facing the wall. You could work with it if you were standing in a different position. The window is chopped out of the picture. There is too much going on in the left side and throws the symmetry off. Consider the lines in the room and work with them. Play with the rule of thirds and try positioning one object in the center of where the lines meet and working off that. Instead of shooting into the light try using the light to your advantage and stand next to it so it lights up your subject.



Number two, I don't want to deface your artwork. I just want to show you my ideas. There's A LOT going on in this picture. If you blur the background, you can focus on the main subject which appears to be the two objects in the lower left that are in a GREAT position with all the right lighting. Maybe you can bump up the color on these two objects and make them stand out of this dull warehouse. Don't blur the columns because they add depth. I OVERLY exhadurated this blurring and sharpening so you could see what I was getting at. It took me no more than 10 seconds, just take it into consideration. Also, check out the ceiling, your a little off center. Try moving to the left with respect to the architecture to give a balanced look.
This was kind of fun I hope you don't mind!



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Re: two to print
<Reply # 6 on 5/3/2007 11:40 PM >
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sarah,

nah, i don't mind. i was hoping someone would really point shit out instead of saying "like ZOMG awesome pics!".

that being said... i think the chair is in the right spot (i think it's lined up in regards to thirds, which is why i placed it there). i've toyed around with the idea of removing the debris behind the chair, and still could. the blown-out window is the biggest problem and i'm tryin to fix that. i can remove the glare on the wall too.

but on the mill pic, you think it'd work better if i crop the right side off and center the perspective a little better? i was shooting for having the light coming thru the ceiling go off center to where the palate jacks are - which comes back around to rule of thirds. in fact, i considered taking 5 steps to the right instead of 1 or 2 to the left...

i will grant you that i wasn't noticing that the ceiling was off, considering the pillars and the window in the back looked lined up well. even if i crop some it won't be perfect.

thanks for your FUCKING BRUTAL HONESTY. ;) haha

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 7 on 5/3/2007 11:55 PM >
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haha it helps me too, I'm glad.

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 8 on 5/4/2007 2:41 AM >
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What camera are you using?

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 9 on 5/4/2007 2:11 PM >
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rebel XT

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 10 on 5/4/2007 2:21 PM >
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i think sarah just about pointed everything out that needed improvement. just a few minor adjustments, and these will be golden. great stuff.

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 11 on 5/4/2007 2:36 PM >
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Other than the slightly off-centered composition of the first one and the purple fringes in the windows of the second, there isn't too much that's wrong with either of these. Just don't go overboard with the print sizes. The resolution of the XT only goes so far. I wouldn't go any larger than 8x12 if you want a professional looking print.

I don't really agree with Sarah's assessment that there's too much or not enough going on in the places she marked. The glare isn't really too bad either, but I guess you could try burning it out slightly if you really wanted to.

And the fake DOF doesn't really do anything either other than make it look trendy. Just centre things a bit, and I'm sure it one would look great when printed out as is. The textures and the details of the space (even garbage cans) are what adds interest. Why blur everything out? The entire scene is far more interesting than just those two cargo wagons, imo.
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Re: two to print
<Reply # 12 on 5/4/2007 3:28 PM >
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thx, micro. i was feelin the same way.

i see now that the warehouse shot isn't centered, and i knew the window was blown out.

but i was going for backlighting the chair. if you look, parts are in the light and parts are in the shade, providing a nice contrast on the subject.

a little cropping could improve the warehouse shot, but i like that even tho the whole room is in focus, the lolly columns provide DOF and the light on the ground directs your eye towards the palate jacks. and blue, red, and yellow??? come on, that's hot. ;)

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 13 on 5/4/2007 3:50 PM >
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The window looks ok, just do some selective colour adjustments to try and get rid of the purple in there. It's nothing major. It's just a pet peeve of mine.

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 14 on 5/4/2007 4:08 PM >
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i'm still new to PS. i've been selecting the window and burning it or darkening it. i'll try your idea next.

trust me, it's a nuisance for me too.

and thx.

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 15 on 5/5/2007 2:51 AM >
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It's just my style

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 16 on 5/5/2007 3:13 AM >
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I like em. And with the corrections, they would be quality prints that i would totally buy if I had money. lol

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 17 on 5/5/2007 6:30 AM >
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I don't really agree with the corrections outside of fixing straight lines and that sorta thing.
The chair shot is pretty well done. Aside from the window there's not much I would change. I enjoy the empty space, it works well with the colours and lines of the wall. Not every shot needs something in each meeting spot in the rule of 3rds, otherwise shit will just get cluttered and there won't really be a focus. I'll take tranquility over some bad attempt at keeping my eyes busy any day. The objects around the chair I don't mind at all.
The other shot I would fix the usual straightening and what not but that's about it. Please for photography's sake, don't try adding your own bokeh. It never comes out right and the shot always looks fake, besides, the focus looks good as is. Who knows, half of this shit is subjective, so do as you please.

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Re: two to print
<Reply # 18 on 5/6/2007 3:49 PM >
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Posted by don_corleyone


but on the mill pic, you think it'd work better if i crop the right side off and center the perspective a little better? i was shooting for having the light coming thru the ceiling go off center to where the palate jacks are - which comes back around to rule of thirds. in fact, i considered taking 5 steps to the right instead of 1 or 2 to the left...




I think if you shifted radically to the right, that would have probably acheived something near to that, but it would have become a much more diagonal composition. Or if you wanted to ignore the rest of the room, just get close and zoom into the palate jacks instead of trying to integrate the perspective into it.

Right now, all I see is the perspective first, and I didn't even pay attention to the jacks.

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