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 Corvid
       
Location: Oxford, UK
Gender: Male
Master of Illusion!!
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< on 2/9/2007 8:20 PM >
|  | | | So Blueshiva and I were driving to scout out another location, when we see this:
The last time we saw a decent sized tower with no antennae on, it was abandoned, and we managed to climb it. So we took a closer look at this one, and realised it was totally insulated from the ground, as you can see in the pictures below.
All it had was the one piece of metal you can see in the bottom photo, the leads into the building. The ladder is truncated and is a fair distance from the ground. I know that with AM masts, the whole mast is the antenna. How safe would it be to climb this mast if it were energised? As far as I understand, touching the mast while in contact with the ground can give you RF burns. Assuming its even safe to climb while active, how vitally important is it we don't earth the mast, either with ourselves, or other conductors? There was also thing strange building nearby:
Any idea what that is anyone?
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| |  | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 1 on 2/9/2007 8:45 PM >
| | | | Why would you want to climb that?
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Emor
Location: Crackpipe city.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 2 on 2/9/2007 8:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
Why would you want to climb that?
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For the awesome view perhaps ?
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Corvid
Location: Oxford, UK
Gender: Male
Master of Illusion!!
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 3 on 2/9/2007 8:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
Why would you want to climb that?
For the awesome view perhaps ? |
Yup. Exactly. The last one we did was about that hight, and we measured it as about 200 feet, assuming all the ladder rungs were the same distance apart. Its surprising how far you can see with a hundred feet or so of height. Theres also an element of "because we can" (assuming its not active/is safe to climb when active).
[last edit 2/9/2007 8:58 PM by Corvid - edited 1 times]
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BlueStreak
Location: Orlando, FL
Gender: Male
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 4 on 2/9/2007 8:57 PM >
| | | | Interesting. I'd think they would want to ground it from lightning, and not have the only connection to the ground going through the transmitter building. Are there lights on top?
The green building appears to be a generator.
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Corvid
Location: Oxford, UK
Gender: Male
Master of Illusion!!
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 5 on 2/9/2007 9:00 PM >
| | | | Posted by BlueStreak
Interesting. I'd think they would want to ground it from lightning, and not have the only connection to the ground going through the transmitter building. Are there lights on top?
The green building appears to be a generator.
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Yes, I think there is one at the very top. Last time we went past at night, we thought we saw it on but couldn't be sure. The last mast we climbed was for a cold war UNITER bunker, and didn't have its lights on (even though it actually had lights).
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Boffo
 
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Location: Smithers, BC
Gender: Male
HONK! HONK!
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 6 on 2/9/2007 9:12 PM >
| | | | Looks like a radio tower to me...... I wouldn't touch it. But that's me personally. RF burns aren't my thing.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 7 on 2/9/2007 11:19 PM >
| | | | RF burns aren't fun...how many watts is this? Results could be very nasty.
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Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Corvid
Location: Oxford, UK
Gender: Male
Master of Illusion!!
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 8 on 2/9/2007 11:24 PM >
| | | | Sounds like it might be climbable. Hell, we don't even think its active, but I'll need to do a bit more reading up on live AM tower climbing though.
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blackhawk
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| | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 9 on 2/9/2007 11:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by Corvid
Sounds like it might be climbable. Hell, we don't even think its active, but I'll need to do a bit more reading up on live AM tower climbing though.
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Fiberglass ladder.
Hook on to that one on the tower, but better be real careful. Give yourself at least as much distance from the tower and ground as those insulators; DO NOT COME WITHIN ONE FOOT of the tower while touching the ground or any conductor to ground. This shit can reach out and touch you.
This MAY BE enough, but I would goggle it or better yet talk to steeplejacks that work on them.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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the_doctor
Location: Boston area
Gender: Male
It's probably dangerous
| |  | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 10 on 2/10/2007 12:59 AM >
| | | | go at night, late night. It has a ladder, and it would be cool to watch the sun come up
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
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| | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 11 on 2/10/2007 1:17 AM >
| | | | Posted by flamable221
go at night, late night. It has a ladder, and it would be cool to watch the sun come up
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You can't touch that ladder with your body near or in contact with earth ground.
Jumping onto the ladder isn't a good solution...
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Corvid
Location: Oxford, UK
Gender: Male
Master of Illusion!!
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 12 on 2/10/2007 10:39 AM >
| | | | Is it even safe to be on the mast while it is energised? If it is, we won't have much of a problem getting up. Out of interest, what happens if you ground the mast with a metal object by accident?
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Pravus
Location: Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 13 on 2/10/2007 12:29 PM >
| | | | I used to work on towers much like that, and no it's not safe at all to climb when they are active.. If you manage to find a tower thats been turned down then the sight alone if worth the climb.. You can buy an RF detector and they will tell you for sure if the site has been turned down.. If it is a deactivated site don't be a fuckin moron and free climb it, the climb up is rather exhausting and you will likely have to be at least half supporting your weight almost until you get down with at least one arm.. Also I recommend you wear gloves of some kind, the metal dries out your skin rather fast and most of the tower won't be perfectly finished so there are random barbs within the entire tower.. So bring at LEAST a normal climbing harness, I'd recommend a full body harness with at least a screamer for a lifeline, and at least a positioning lanyard.. Also never go alone even if you are fully geared.. you fall and even if you had a lifeline you hit yer head you'll bleed to death before anyone ever finds you.. If you really would like a full list a gear of what I'd recommend you to bring I'll kindly tell you, either send me a PM or let me know within the thread..
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 14 on 2/10/2007 3:08 PM >
| | | | Posted by Emor
For the awesome view perhaps ?
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Risk versus reward.
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Sentinel
Location: Lawrence, KS
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 15 on 2/10/2007 3:20 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
Risk versus reward.
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Prolly not worth it. You can get a good view from other things
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nightbird
Girl Moderator
Location: Buffalo, NY
Gender: Female
Gone abortin, BRB
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 16 on 2/10/2007 3:22 PM >
| | | | There are already a few detailed threads here on towers and what to avoid. But if you want to be cool, be my guest remove yourself from the gene pool.
WTF indeed. |
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Pravus
Location: Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
| | | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 17 on 2/10/2007 4:14 PM >
| | | | Not sure what everyone is all uppity about.. As long as your not afraid of heights, not a total moron, and at least 'somewhat' prepared it isn't anything /that/ risky.. I used to do this kinda crap every day..
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Corvid
Location: Oxford, UK
Gender: Male
Master of Illusion!!
| | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 18 on 2/10/2007 6:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by Pravus
Not sure what everyone is all uppity about.. As long as your not afraid of heights, not a total moron, and at least 'somewhat' prepared it isn't anything /that/ risky.. I used to do this kinda crap every day..
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Exactly my feelings. I've been up one before, 200ft, but that one was definitely deactivated, and had a cage around the entire ladder. This one does not, so its definitely a harness this time. I'd say this one is almost a bit taller than 200ft! I'll try and find out if its live or not. Any tips Pravus?
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Climbable?
<Reply # 19 on 2/10/2007 7:23 PM >
| | | | I've free-climbed all my life; if you don't trust yourself, don't climb. Ladders are a cake walk.
Those big insulators should tell you something though. If your grounded, you must maintain at least a distance of one foot. Your shoes offer no protection if your standing on a grounded surface or on concrete, soil, wood, etc.
Even on non-conductors surfaces must be dry.
Do not come near or make contact with any conductive object! Yourself included! Once your on it, your at the same potential, however depending on the voltage, frequency, humidity, and proximity to grounded objects, you may indeed feel it, even be shocked. If they work on these energized, getting onto, and off it is the only issue if you can climb.
This is not a good tower to cut your teeth on.
I would leave it be!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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