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 happykyle77
Location: Anthem Arizona
Gender: Male
 |  |  | about gasmasks
< on 11/18/2006 7:37 PM >
|  | | | i am thinking about checking out some mines on the other side of town, and i need a gas mask before i do anything else. what type of gas mask should i use? what filters would i need to get? i would like to get something that protects against carbon monoxide and high buildup of carbon dioxide or just plain dust. but id also like to be protected against asbestos for future explorations. anybody know anything about these? i dont know anything about them. thank you
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bryguy17
 
Location: san luis obispo/fullerton
Gender: Male
Welcome to SLOcal
| |  | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 1 on 11/18/2006 8:36 PM >
| | | | get a p100 respirator, but im pretty sure that wont protect you against carbon monoxide. It will help with any particles including asbestos and oil fumes and such. as far as i know, you can only avoid Carbon monoxide with a SCBA or at the very least a detector or some sorts to tell you to get the hell out of wherever you are. and also, find someone experienced to do mines and double check stuff with them for whatcha need. good luck exploring though 
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Mark
    
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 2 on 11/18/2006 9:24 PM >
| | | | Gases are hard to protect against with most masks. The biggest issue with mines are not the gasses in them, but the quantity. Its generally impossible to know how much gases are in the air without some kind of kit.
However for the Carbon Monxoide issue get one of these.
  
They range between 2-8 dollars depending on who you get it from. You should find these at just about any private airport (not the commercial side for passengers).
http://www.skygeek...0YgCFSIuNAodkXp1ZQ
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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TaP
Location: Montreal, QC
Gender: Male
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 3 on 11/18/2006 9:59 PM >
| | | | for carbon monoxide, just get a carbon monoxide detector for home use, its exactly like a smoke detector found in every home. only for carbon monoxide.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: O2
<Reply # 4 on 11/19/2006 12:20 AM >
| | | | Your concern is not radon, and unless there's a fire there should be no CO. What does concern you is lack of oxygen; high levels of methane can "push" O2 out making it impossible to sustain life. You can blackout before you realize what hit you. As Jonered has pointed out, a canary is a reliable O2 and poisonous gas indicator. The bird will croak before you do giving you a margin of safety.
A mask without bottled air will be useless in a low O2 atmosphere. Do not go in if you know this to be the case!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Captain Obvious
Location: among the tank farms
Gender: Male
in ur xbox...there are midgets
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 5 on 11/19/2006 12:32 AM >
| | | | http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=37892
Abandoned mines are dangerous even with gear. I wouldn't recommend it at all.
Nov. 24, 2007--The city of Cleveland, Ohio, announces that it has developed tactical nuclear weapons, and does not wish to hear any more jokes.
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DeMiNe0
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Gender: Male
DeMiNe0.CoM
| |  |  | | | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 6 on 11/19/2006 6:49 AM >
| | | | You can't get a mask to filter CO. You'll need an SCBA unit.
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Matteo
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Gender: Male
Current Mayonnaise stock: 1.67 Litres
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 7 on 11/19/2006 11:20 AM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
What does concern you is lack of oxygen; making it impossible to sustain life. You can blackout before you realize what hit you. A mask without bottled air will be useless in a low O2 atmosphere. Do not go in if you know this to be the case!
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Nuff said.
Note: A mask without bottled air = SCBA
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Uncle Goose
Location: Ghent, Belgium
Gender: Male
The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 8 on 11/19/2006 1:00 PM >
| | | | Mineworkers usually take a rebreather with them in dangerous situations. There are special CO filters but they are expensive and can only be used 1 time for safety reasons. And filters only protect you up till a certain concentrations, if it's too high it won't help anymore.
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iq72EfX
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Gender: Male
UE in a question mark suit since '05
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 9 on 11/19/2006 4:28 PM >
| | | | Posted by TaP
for carbon monoxide, just get a carbon monoxide detector for home use, its exactly like a smoke detector found in every home. only for carbon monoxide.
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Good luck finding a 120V power source in an abandoned mine shaft. I suppose you could rig up something with a battery operated system, however.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 10 on 11/19/2006 6:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by iq72EfX
Good luck finding a 120V power source in an abandoned mine shaft. I suppose you could rig up something with a battery operated system, however.
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You didnt read any of the above posts or the see the monoxide detecters that require no exectricity did you? Why cant I have the little smiley face that beats the other with a stick on here?
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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iq72EfX
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Gender: Male
UE in a question mark suit since '05
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 11 on 11/19/2006 9:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
You didnt read any of the above posts or the see the monoxide detecters that require no exectricity did you? Why cant I have the little smiley face that beats the other with a stick on here?
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Yes, I read that. I was simply shooting down his idea down. Besides, the household detectors are easier to find.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 12 on 11/19/2006 9:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by Uncle Goose
Mineworkers usually take a rebreather with them in dangerous situations. There are special CO filters but they are expensive and can only be used 1 time for safety reasons. And filters only protect you up till a certain concentrations, if it's too high it won't help anymore.
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Damn a rebreather be sweet! Prolly goes for about 6 G though. Seriously though even with a bottle air or a rebreather, very high CO levels are simply too dangerous to play with. Very easy to die; you might as well be 200 feet underwater.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 13 on 11/20/2006 7:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
Damn a rebreather be sweet! Prolly goes for about 6 G though. Seriously though even with a bottle air or a rebreather, very high CO levels are simply too dangerous to play with. Very easy to die; you might as well be 200 feet underwater.
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Wrong rebreather man. Thats SCUnderwaterBA not a SCBA which is what mines use.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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Captain Obvious
Location: among the tank farms
Gender: Male
in ur xbox...there are midgets
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 14 on 11/20/2006 9:33 PM >
| | | | Rebreathers aren't cheap. They go for at least $6k each. If you need that kind of protection, you probably shouldn't be that deep in the mine in the first place.
Nov. 24, 2007--The city of Cleveland, Ohio, announces that it has developed tactical nuclear weapons, and does not wish to hear any more jokes.
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blackhawk
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 15 on 11/20/2006 11:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
Wrong rebreather man. Thats SCUnderwaterBA not a SCBA which is what mines use.
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Just an example of what's involved, use a nose clip.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Chronos
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Gender: Male
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 16 on 11/21/2006 7:28 AM >
|  | | | Don't forget this!
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TaP
Location: Montreal, QC
Gender: Male
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 17 on 12/3/2006 6:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by iq72EfX
Good luck finding a 120V power source in an abandoned mine shaft. I suppose you could rig up something with a battery operated system, however.
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actually my rents have on that is battery powered.
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iq72EfX
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Gender: Male
UE in a question mark suit since '05
| | Re: about gasmasks
<Reply # 18 on 12/4/2006 1:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by TaPactually my rents have on that is battery powered.
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Yes, I found one at my friends house, too. It even displays the PPM. I guess I'm wrong.
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