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UER Forum > Archived US: Pacific Northwest > Reconsider Seattle Underground (Viewed 658 times) Face  Location: Seattle, WA Gender: Male  |  |  Reconsider Seattle Underground < on 8/2/2006 5:07 AM >   Let me start off by saying I'm a new member and a resident of Seattle, and that I'm glad there are other people who enjoy this kind of stuff. I've read the previous topic on Seattle Underground, and allthough those who replied are mostly correct, I've noticed a few flaws that might make you reconsider exploring this abandon underground city. 1: Many of those who replied said that it was a danky hole. But those people did not infact see anymore of Seattle Underground than the tour-guides allowed them to see. The tour only covers a minute fraction of the underground city. I know for a fact that Seattle Underground encompasses at leat the entire downtown area of Seattle, and I've heard from other credible sources that it extends as far out as the University & SODO districts. The areas out-side of the tour would be very much like a dark labrynth that twists and turns with interesting and exciting things around every corner. I dont want to disturb the area, but I would'nt mind taking home a human skull as a souvineer myself. Also, It is not fact that most of it has been filled in. Theres no records that say so, and besides, the amount of money it would cost to have all this filled in would be too much for the early 1900's Seattle. 2: One member gave a list of places where the probability of a secret entrance would be high. I've obviously researched this quite a bit, and I've made a more alaborate list. 1.Sublevel Shops - Mostly in the Pioneer Square area, alot of the back-rooms could be potential entrances. 2.Vacant Lots - Though there arent many that look promising, I know of a spot that if given the right tools, I know I could get in. 3.Manholes - The sewage lines in Pioneer Square go right through the place, so if we could get in the main lines we could probably find a door somewhere that goes right into it. I would need things to do this expedition. 1.People 2.A good map of seattle before 1889 3.MXZ Saw & bolt-cutters 4.Lights & extra batterries 5.Walky-Talky's & Silver metallic spray-paint Please consider this, I'm certain this will be a worthwhile expedition. [last edit 8/2/2006 6:52 AM by Face - edited 1 times] dont judge me Deuterium  Location: PNW Gender: Male  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 1 on 8/2/2006 11:28 AM >   Rent a ground penetrating radar and start looking for tunnels. Face  Location: Seattle, WA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 2 on 8/2/2006 3:23 PM >   That wouldnt be very usefull seeing as how Seattle Underground is everywhere, its not just tunnells, its an underground city. It's my hopes to eventually map out the entire area that still remains, map where its safe to go, and find and or create new entrances. dont judge me Freak  Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male Hypocrite  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 3 on 8/3/2006 11:30 PM >   As far as filling in the underground goes, from what I understood the streets were filled to raise them 1 story above the old ground level. It doesn't really make sense to have left the streets hollow, that would have been way more expensive (in terms of brick, steel braces, etc) than just building two walls and dumping dirt in the middle. I've heard rumors that there are a couple tunnels between sections of the underground, but most sources say the underground is a bunch of unconnected hollow sidewalks around each block (more like a waffle than a labyrinth). A good way to prove or disprove the hollow street theory is to look for construction pits in areas that have hollow sidewalks. When the city digs for utilities, are they digging dirt out of the streets, or just cutting the pavement off to reveal empty space? In regards to sewers, does Seattle have any walking-height sewers? Most cities have one or two large (6ft+) interceptor tunnels and a ton of small (1ft or less) feeder pipes. Even Minneapolis/St Paul sewers are designed so the sewage is usually in small pipes, the only reason there are so many tunnels there was the ease of digging to install the pipes. I've seen a few doors such as you describe in MSP, but they're often rusted shut after 100 years of poop going past. Also, most if not all sewers in major cities run down the center of streets, since that's city property and they dont' have to deal with tearing up yards or basements to do repairs. Connections to homes and businesses (and hollow sidewalks) are usually through 8-10 inch pipes, so you may be out of luck there. Here's a resource that could help, since I'm not a local I don't know what streets to check out. http://web1.seattl.../sidesewercardsv2/ Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137 the#2kiwimoondogg  Location: new castle POOP GROWS ON TREES  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 4 on 8/4/2006 1:48 AM >   Posted by Face 3.MXZ Saw & bolt-cutters 4.Lights & extra batterries 5.Walky-Talky's & Silver metallic spray-paint Please consider this, I'm certain this will be a worthwhile expedition. Fuck off Face. Your not welcome here, and you call yourself an urban explorer? What part of urban exploration do you not get... Ethics! I think that you are a vandal- not an urban explorer. And if I ever catch you-your going to be so fucking sorry. Stay the fuck out of seattle. And stay off the kiwi. Junix  Location: Pitt Meadows, BC, Canada Gender: Male Resident Firebrand  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 5 on 8/4/2006 7:04 AM >   Posted by Face I've obviously researched this quite a bit, and I've made a more alaborate list. Reading is good. RUAUER? "Security Measures: Creepy guy in trailer comes out at the slightest sound." -notwearingpants "And were off. N." -nobody Jonsered  Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong Gender: Male Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........  |  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 6 on 8/4/2006 3:01 PM >   Posted by the#2kiwimoondogg Fuck off Face. Your not welcome here, and you call yourself an urban explorer? What part of urban exploration do you not get... Ethics! I think that you are a vandal- not an urban explorer. And if I ever catch you-your going to be so fucking sorry. Stay the fuck out of seattle. And stay off the kiwi. Ah.....1st post and its an ethics rant along with a physical threat. Nice. We're sorry, but your not a winner. We do however have some nice consolation prizes for you to take home. I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread. El_Gordo_Uno  Location: Wenatchee, Washington Gender: Male This post brought to you by Allan Smithee  |  |  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 7 on 8/4/2006 3:25 PM >   Yeah stealing human remains is rad. I try to do it atleast a couple times a month. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges Face  Location: Seattle, WA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 8 on 8/4/2006 4:23 PM >   Posted by Freak As far as filling in the underground goes, from what I understood the streets were filled to raise them 1 story above the old ground level. It doesn't really make sense to have left the streets hollow, that would have been way more expensive (in terms of brick, steel braces, etc) than just building two walls and dumping dirt in the middle. I've heard rumors that there are a couple tunnels between sections of the underground, but most sources say the underground is a bunch of unconnected hollow sidewalks around each block (more like a waffle than a labyrinth). A good way to prove or disprove the hollow street theory is to look for construction pits in areas that have hollow sidewalks. When the city digs for utilities, are they digging dirt out of the streets, or just cutting the pavement off to reveal empty space? I'm not sure how they do it, but I know for a fact that the sidewalks under the Pioneer Square area are hollow, that where to tour goes under. Posted by the#2kiwimoondogg Fuck off Face. Your not welcome here, and you call yourself an urban explorer? What part of urban exploration do you not get... Ethics! I think that you are a vandal- not an urban explorer. And if I ever catch you-your going to be so fucking sorry. Stay the fuck out of seattle. And stay off the kiwi. First of all, the MXZ saw was for quietly cutting through anything that might be blocking your path. And second, the silver spray paint was not for tagging. Its going to be very dark in there and we would need to our way back. I just thought silver spray paint would pick up the light from the flashlights better. [last edit 8/4/2006 4:30 PM by Face - edited 2 times] dont judge me nobody  Location: VANCOUVER B.C. Gender: Male 5:55 is a state of mind  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 9 on 8/4/2006 4:48 PM >   I guess the other thread must have really cut loose overnight. I see it no longer exists. N. Operating Entirely With Bad Intentions Face  Location: Seattle, WA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 10 on 8/4/2006 5:21 PM >   y'know, i didnt see the part in the ethics about being an asshole. You all judged me before you even knew me. I made just one post, you people misinterpeted my words and labeled me a vandal. Theres no fucking welcome here? I dont want to do anything with judgemental pricks. dont judge me Freak  Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male Hypocrite  |  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 11 on 8/4/2006 7:01 PM >   Well, stealing skulls kind of makes you look bad, even if it's hypothetical. And cutting through things in your way generally qualifies as vandalism in the eyes of the law. Spraypainting all over historical walls is also unnecessary, buy some orange survey tape at the hardware store. Most explorers avoid damaging sites at all costs, so you won't get much respect by going around chopping things open. I realize that the sidewalks are hollow in much of downtown, but it's generally accepted that they don't connect. The "Underground city" is most likely a bunch of seperate rings of tunnels around each block, with some old basements and maybe a pedestrian tunnel or two. I did some scouting after taking that tour, and located a few possible entrances and a lot of abandoned-looking buildings downtown that had skylights around them. Unfortunately there were a TON of homeless people (you couldn't walk through the parks, you'd step on sleeping bags), so anything abandoned gets locked up really fast. If the shipwreck or something else gets torn down in the downtown area, that might be a temporary way into part of the underground. Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137 Junix  Location: Pitt Meadows, BC, Canada Gender: Male Resident Firebrand  |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 12 on 8/4/2006 7:30 PM >   Posted by Face I dont want to do anything with judgmental pricks. YES, eye for an eye works every time. Just for the record Im a sarcastic asshole not a judgmental prick. When they raised the streets they couldnt dump fill against the sides of the buildings. The "underground" is less of an underground city and more of an extended basement cavity around many of the historic buildings. If you did begin breaking into them, it would be essentially the same as breaking into the buildings they provide access to. Assuming the access points are still accessible and not covered with drywall during a renovation. RUAUER? "Security Measures: Creepy guy in trailer comes out at the slightest sound." -notwearingpants "And were off. N." -nobody TDK1000   |  Re: Reconsider Seattle Underground <Reply # 13 on 8/6/2006 6:51 AM >   Posted by the#2kiwimoondogg Fuck off Face. Your not welcome here, and you call yourself an urban explorer? What part of urban exploration do you not get... Ethics! I think that you are a vandal- not an urban explorer. And if I ever catch you-your going to be so fucking sorry. Stay the fuck out of seattle. And stay off the kiwi. Dude you're lame. Real lame. UER Forum > Archived US: Pacific Northwest > Reconsider Seattle Underground (Viewed 658 times) All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 109 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 738547075 pages have been generated.