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 Deuterium
     
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
 |  | How should I get in? cameras
< on 7/24/2006 6:18 AM >
|  | | | I found a rather large abandoned building in bad part of the town. I did a quick scouting and spotted security camera on each side of exterior wall and in the window was "trespass enforcement program - we cooperate with the police to enforce trespassing" or something in that effect.
Give up or is there a good way around?
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Chronos
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Gender: Male
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 1 on 7/24/2006 7:23 AM >
|  | | | I vote give up. If it's in a bad part of town and they have cameras, I'd personally err on the side of caution and assume they also have alarms on the doors and motion sensors. Unless there is something really cool in there that is worth the risk and difficulty it would take to get in, I'd just forget about it.
[last edit 7/24/2006 9:59 PM by -MisfitStyle- - edited 2 times]
"Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." -Mark Twain |
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Mark
 
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 2 on 7/24/2006 9:40 AM >
| | | | I am sure that this will turn into a huge debate, but heres my 2 cents.
Most cameras on abandoned buildings aren't being watched, or aren't functioning. Common logic would dictate if the building housed something worth secureing it probably wouldn't be abandoned. That being said if it houses special equipment then its probably recorded, but not actively watched.
Check the whole building area, many buildings will have cameras on the front but not on the rear, where acess might be easier anyways.
If in doubt, cover your face, hoodies, glasses, hats, or balaclava. If you are worried about being caught on camera gloves might be prudent as well.
Before one of you goes off about balaclava's looking light terrorists... yeah your right, but going in with your face exposed to a camera makes you a known criminal. It's personal choice, not ninja maneuvers, and you never know what you might fine. The place might store something important, and the building might have been, or will be broken into. Now your a suspect.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 3 on 7/24/2006 2:49 PM >
| | | | There are 6 sides to a cube, and there are only cameras on four of em, so.....
I agree with mark on the camera's not being actively watched. The most you would have to worry about is if they are motion-detecting and trigger an alert (not likely if its near anything, like streets/paths/other buildings) or maybe an internal or perimeter security system.
The cameras/sign especially are a deterrent more than a defense, so I think that you could always speed UE (time for lookround<response time for police) the place and pull out to see what sort of response it gets.
Be careful, don't be identifiable (faces/license plates) on the cameras (the primary use of cameras is figuring out what happened once they realized something happened), and have fun.
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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mattsb2000
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Location: San Bernardino
Gender: Male
Your house is gone, your leg has been raped.
| |  | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 4 on 7/24/2006 3:27 PM >
| | | | Here in California it is illegal (and maybe even a felony) to wear a mask while committing a crime. Just something to think about.
Ghettotech
<Opheliaism> you are officially more of a sick fuck than ghost killa |
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 5 on 7/24/2006 7:20 PM >
| | | | Posted by mattsb2000
...It is illegal to wear a mask while committing a crime...
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I love this sorts of posts. Blackhawk once said "You can not pack legally if your committing a crime. [sic]"
They make me laugh, for reasons of obviousness.
We understand that we are commiting a crime. I know that it's more charges and such, but it could be worded better.
"It's another charge if you get caught wearing a mask while...."
And I wouldn't worry about it, except that it draws attention (which is what gets you caught typically), unless it looks like you're 'sposed to be there (gas mask / ventillator / sust mask / goggles praps?).
All that said, thanks for the info (actually good to know) and thanks for making me laugh.
[edit: fixed a quoting mistake]
[last edit 7/24/2006 7:21 PM by MindHacker - edited 1 times]
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Mr.Coffee
Location: Coming to a theatre near you!
Gender: Male
Everyone agrees, I'm Rad.
| |  | | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 6 on 7/24/2006 7:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
"It's another charge if you get caught wearing a mask while...."
And I wouldn't worry about it, except that it draws attention (which is what gets you caught typically), unless it looks like you're 'sposed to be there (gas mask / ventillator / sust mask / goggles praps?).
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ahh yes, I just came up with a great excuse next time i'm caught:
"Well, I'm a building inspector and an insomniac, sooo...."
but yeah, this is why hoodies are great. throw it up, walk past the cameras, throw it down. If you're worried too much about getting caught, don't go.
[last edit 7/24/2006 7:36 PM by Mr.Coffee - edited 1 times]
Coming To a Theatre Near You!
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cringe
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Gender: Male
RAINBOW PARTY. MORBID AS F#!K.
| | | | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 7 on 7/24/2006 9:53 PM >
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NAY, sir! |
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Deuterium
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 8 on 7/24/2006 10:57 PM >
| | | | Hmmmm the building is "disused" but records show it is an active development site.
139,000 SQFT and 40,000SQFT of unfinished basement, sold last september for $6.2 million despite the building being 86 years old. Man I wanna explore this place.
There were about two dozen facility permits issued for this premise in the last year and the most recent activity is the 17th of this month, so this explains why all the security.
Oh man, look at the enclosed corridor high up on the building.. So sexy.
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 9 on 7/24/2006 11:46 PM >
| | | | Good call on the hoodie. I wish I was thinking that clearly.
As for the building: Impressive looking building, and rather pristine looking to. No graff, broken windows, or other visible vandalism. Based on what you said about the activity, there could vrey well be an alarm system. It should be advertised, so check the windows/doors for any signs/advertisements. Have you planned your entrance method yet?
The building also looks similar to the boat on the treasure map, if you squint at it and try to read it into it. Looks like the best way to go in is the bottom SE corner, by the red. Just watch out for pirates.
The pirates camera's might have blind spots due to parked vehicles, cameras, trees, outbuildings.... But an active alarm or no entry method should be your primary concerns.
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 10 on 7/25/2006 8:39 PM >
| | | | I wasn't talking about motion detectors on the outside, but on the inside. We set one off in a run down abandoned building one night when walking into an office.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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MutantMandias
 
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 11 on 7/25/2006 9:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
There are 6 sides to a cube, and there are only cameras on four of em, so.....
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Okay, it's decided. Tunnel up from below.
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grassy
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Yeah, I'm MAX ACTION... So what?
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 12 on 7/25/2006 9:25 PM >
| | | | Are you so desperate that you find it necessary to consult a web forum?
i have never taken a photograph in my life
exploring should be done at home, where it's safe |
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Chronos
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Gender: Male
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 13 on 7/25/2006 9:32 PM >
| | | | I retract my previous statement, that building looks too fun to let some cameras stop you. If it's an active building I still vote to forget about it. Otherwise, I'd say just scout it out to see what you're up against. Maybe do something really inconspicuous in the view of a camera (e.g. talk on a cell phone, walk a dog around, etc) and see if anyone comes. At that point at least you will know if it's monitored (probably isn't) or sets off an alarm.
"Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more." -Mark Twain |
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res_novae
Location: NoVA
Gender: Male
| | | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 14 on 7/25/2006 10:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
Okay, it's decided. Tunnel up from below.
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No, Fly in from above. How will the cops arrest you when you have a get away chopper.
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tron_2.0
Location: Ohio
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 15 on 7/25/2006 10:50 PM >
| | | | Just get ninja gear and scale the wallz while spraypainting tagz.
But seriously, that place looks sealed. Perhaps you should get yourself a tour, then sneak off or something? Maybe permission?
[quote][i]Posted by yokes[/i]
I find your lack of coziness.... disturbing.
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Deuterium
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: How should I get in? cameras
<Reply # 16 on 7/26/2006 12:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by res_novae
No, Fly in from above. How will the cops arrest you when you have a get away chopper.
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With the military chopper with bigger and badder arms than mine
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