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 Irose-MissX
 |  |  |  | Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
< on 10/26/2003 3:15 PM >
|  | | | Ok. (first of all, I give props to this awsome site)
Now for my question. I already searched for a similar topic that could answer my question.
Is there a difference between Infiltration and Urban Exploration? If there is, what is it?
(Thankyou-Ivy)
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NoSuchPerson
     
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 1 on 10/26/2003 3:18 PM >
|  | | | Infiltration == Going into live sites - ie, infiltrating a site - making people think you're supposed to be there.
Urban Exploration == going into abandoned sites, or sites that don't require you to "fit in".
Example:
Canada Malt Plant = Urban Exploration
Union Station/Royal York/UofT = Infiltration
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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El_Gordo_Uno
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| |  | | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 2 on 10/26/2003 3:20 PM >
| | | | I'm no expert but I think Infiltration is the entering of an active restricted area thats still in use and Urban Exploration is the exploring of abandoned places.
That doesn't sound quite right even to me so if someone out there can clarify for Irose-MissX, thanks.
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Macsbug
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| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 3 on 10/26/2003 3:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by El_Gordo_Uno
I'm no expert but I think Infiltration is the entering of an active restricted area thats still in use and Urban Exploration is the exploring of abandoned places.
That doesn't sound quite right even to me so if someone out there can clarify for Irose-MissX, thanks.
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I think urban exploration is kind of an all encompassing term. Infiltration is like a branch of of it. I cannot think of a term for exploring abondoned sites, other then UE, but I think you could use it to describe exploring active sites also.
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ReAct
Location: Northern Jersey... For now.
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 4 on 10/26/2003 3:48 PM >
| | | | Posted by macsbug
I think urban exploration is kind of an all encompassing term. Infiltration is like a branch of of it. |
That's the way I always looked at it.
All infiltration could be called urbex.
Not all urbex could be called infiltration.
-ReAct
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"That says '13.2kV.'"
"Ohhhh... Thirteen-thousand volts... I suppose that's a little different...." |
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manitou
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| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 5 on 10/26/2003 4:30 PM >
| | | | There are some sites that are abandoned but guarded and would therefore constitute and infiltration, ie London Asylum. That's the way I see it anyways.
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Chud
Try a 211, you'll just get 187'd...
| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 6 on 10/26/2003 4:50 PM >
| | | | Macs is dead on. Think of it like this: urban exploration is a word for a large group of activities, namely ones that involve exploring man-made things. One of those many activities is called infiltration, or going in restricted areas of active sites.
Think of this analogy:
Track and Field
Discuss
Javelin
50 meter dash
Urban Exploration
Infiltration (going into live sites)
Draining (going into drainage systems)
Shafting (going into mines)
Wraithing (exploring abandoned places with security while pretending to be
ninjas and snapping blurry pics but making up for it with interesting write-ups
and a jovial front-man) (not to be confused with jestering, which is using twine
and jolt's left tabi to make a hang glider and getting into an aforementioned
"wraithy" site)
That's how I see it, anyway.
EDIT- working on formatting
[last edit 10/26/2003 4:59 PM by Chud - edited 2 times]
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Avatar-X
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yay!
| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 7 on 10/26/2003 4:53 PM >
| | | | rofl, that's a great breakdown chud 
huskies - such fluff. |
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 8 on 10/26/2003 5:22 PM >
| | | | I always thought Shafting is something you should do alone, in the privacy of your own house, but maybe I'm just old-fashioned 
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Chainsaw
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| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 10 on 10/26/2003 7:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Chud
Urban Exploration
Infiltration (going into live sites)
Draining (going into drainage systems)
Shafting (going into mines)
Wraithing (exploring abandoned places with security while pretending to be
ninjas and snapping blurry pics but making up for it with interesting write-ups
and a jovial front-man)
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Ho Ho Ho.
I don't think we pretend to be ninjas. I guess I fall into "wraithing" then. Hmm...So I guess that makes me a jovial front-man...
Anyway, I think it's a lot of things to a lot of folks you can categorize it every which way and still leave some people undefined. There's a whole society of people out there that are doing UE right now but have no idea. Some of them there is no WAY you could call n00b's.
In fact I daresay that the worlds greatest UE'ers probably have never thought to look up UE websites. Not that you guys are without talent, I'm sure this on-line society has some of the all-time greatest (and dare I say some of the all time worst - Tony...uh).
Quid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
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MacGyver
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| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 11 on 10/26/2003 9:54 PM >
| | | | Hey, this is something I toyed with a bit. I ended up with a page that tries to explain the differences between different people's approaches to the recreational activity we all know and love. I want to take it a little further, and this seems like a good thread to start in.
I'm good at coming up with concepts but not always as great at filling them in. I tried to make a flowchart-like diagram that sort of shows the heirarchy of the terms we use. It would start with UE/UA at the top, which connect together and branch off, trying to place different terms.
Here's a quickly made example. Warning: this is not intended to be all-encompassing. Anyone care to expand it or offer corrections?
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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'Dukes
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| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 12 on 10/27/2003 12:43 AM >
| | | | Why try to put terms something I have done since the middle '80's, this has recently become fun with the advent of digital cameras and posting.
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
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Stewie
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
kill your idols
| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 13 on 10/27/2003 4:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
I always thought Shafting is something you should do alone, in the privacy of your own house, but maybe I'm just old-fashioned
-Ex
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Oh good god Ex 
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 14 on 10/27/2003 5:00 AM >
|  | | | I think Vadding is a word that could stand to be used more, it just has a nice sound to it.
How about skunneling, drain boating, and other "fringe" types of UE? I'm going to try some underground ice skating this winter when the big cluvert down the road freezes up.
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 15 on 10/27/2003 5:21 AM >
| | | | In fargo, the storm drains are typically big ditches because of the lack of elevation change. (see this and this) When it rains, they fill up well past the concrete trough, often times almost as deep as the banks. I want to get a kayak or raft and go whitewater rafting in a longish one during a storm some time. Technically, it's draining, urban, adventuresome, illegal, and definitely not safe. Where would you classify it?
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Macsbug
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Location: St. Paul, MN
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 16 on 10/27/2003 5:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by Krazy
In fargo, the storm drains are typically big ditches because of the lack of elevation change. (see this and this) When it rains, they fill up well past the concrete trough, often times almost as deep as the banks. I want to get a kayak or raft and go whitewater rafting in a longish one during a storm some time. Technically, it's draining, urban, adventuresome, illegal, and definitely not safe. Where would you classify it?
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Well, it wouldn't be exploring, so I would put it under either Urban Adventure, or Water Sports.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." |
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Kimmo
Noble Donor
| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 17 on 10/27/2003 5:46 AM >
| | | | To confuse this discussion even more, I came across a web site that deals with a hobby called: Urban Cyclin, to drive to places, where you are not suppose to go. To explore abandoned industrial areas and weird suburbs. Unfortunately the web site is only in Finnish...
I have also come across a web site that deals with Urban Wandering, to wander around forgotten roads.
So I would say that those people have formed their own name for this hobby?
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 18 on 10/27/2003 7:22 AM >
| | | | The inevitable problem is that so many different activities can be bundled together differently depending on what traits you use do define things. There really isn't a point to trying to sort out everything about it other than just for the heck of it. ...that and because people keep asking I suppose.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: Urban Exploration VS Infiltration, differance?
<Reply # 19 on 10/27/2003 9:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by Krazy
The inevitable problem is that so many different activities can be bundled together differently depending on what traits you use do define things. There really isn't a point to trying to sort out everything about it other than just for the heck of it. ...that and because people keep asking I suppose.
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That's very true, UE is usually a good term for all of it... except that half of what I do isn't even urban exploration, since it's not urban. Exploring a ghost town or an island bunker isn't technically UE, although I tend to call it that out of habit. I think a better all-encompassing term would be Recreational Trespassing (coined jokingly by Mr. Sable of UEA) or some other catchphrase (too tired to think of a good one right now, someone else do it)
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
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