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< on 4/23/2006 7:40 PM >
|  | | | A couple of months ago I heard a story on Npr about a giant ship yard (one word or two?) in India where ships are decommissioned and stripped. Does anyone know anything about this place?
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<Reply # 1 on 4/23/2006 7:46 PM >
| | | | I have seen photographs of this place. Very amazing scenes. I dont remember the who what where stuff tho.
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OptFlv
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| | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 2 on 4/23/2006 8:03 PM >
| | | | You're talking about Alang, India. I'm sure there are better photos out there, but there are a couple among the other stuff on this page:
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Actually, Google Earth just updated the imagery of Alang in the past couple of months, it's much higher res now. You can see Alang at 21°25' N, 72°13' E.
Fascinating place, really. The amount of ships that meet their fate on that beach is astonishing. I'd love the chance to explore them before they're chopped up. They actually dismantle these beasts largely by hand, with oxyacetylene torches and whatnot. You could never get away with something like that outside the third world.
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<Reply # 3 on 4/23/2006 9:15 PM >
| | | | Bangladesh does a lot too... the January/february issue of Foreign Policy has a really good photo essay about the Bangladeshi ship dismantling industry. Most workers simply use their hands and tools and dont wear shoes.
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| | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 4 on 4/23/2006 9:35 PM >
| | | | ...the place you're probably talking about is Allang, India, worlds largest ship graveyard. There is a wonderful film the Film Board of Canada put out called 'ship breakers' about it. The famous torontonian photographer (of UE-related stuff) Edward Bertynski has a book on it (called 'manufactured landscapes') as well. They manually break apart over 50% of the worlds ships...I hope to visit Allang in the next few years...
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<Reply # 5 on 4/23/2006 9:42 PM >
| | | | Thanks for the google earth link.. that's fascinating.
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yokes
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| | | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 6 on 4/23/2006 9:44 PM >
| | | | Burtynsky's Shipbreaking photos
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OptFlv
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| | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 7 on 4/23/2006 9:58 PM >
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Chittagong has been gaining on Alang in recent years. Alot of tonnage going their way, too. Same setup as Alang, more or less. Long, shallow tidal beaches they winch the ships onto. Workers dismantling manually with very little protection, if any. It's got to be one hell of a dangerous job.
Unfortunately, the Google Earth imagery at Chittagong sucks. Very low res, but you can still make out what's going on there. It's on the coast north of Chittagong proper.
Nice to see some other people interested in ships on here, too.
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| | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 8 on 4/24/2006 1:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by OptFlv
Chittagong has been gaining on Alang in recent years. Alot of tonnage going their way, too. Same setup as Alang, more or less. Long, shallow tidal beaches they winch the ships onto. Workers dismantling manually with very little protection, if any. It's got to be one hell of a dangerous job. |
They don't necessarily winch them ashore.
They drive them up at High tide, full steam ahead into the beach if at all possible, the momentum of an ocean going freighter driving itself up the beach is more than enough to ensure that it can not be refloated.
I was in Barnes and Noble a couple of weeks ago when in Detroit and saw an interesting looking book on shipbreaking in Bangaladesh, following the death of a ship from arrival through cutting.
Breaking Ships
That said, Burtynski's shipbreaking pictures are stunning, and the web images don't do justice to his work, then again, no reduction does justice to something meant to be seen at around 4 feet by 6 feet when printed and hung.
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| | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 9 on 4/24/2006 1:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Duct Tape
They don't necessarily winch them ashore.
They drive them up at High tide, full steam ahead into the beach if at all possible, the momentum of an ocean going freighter driving itself up the beach is more than enough to ensure that it can not be refloated.
I was in Barnes and Noble a couple of weeks ago when in Detroit and saw an interesting looking book on shipbreaking in Bangaladesh, following the death of a ship from arrival through cutting.
Breaking Ships
That said, Burtynski's shipbreaking pictures are stunning, and the web images don't do justice to his work, then again, no reduction does justice to something meant to be seen at around 4 feet by 6 feet when printed and hung.
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when it comes to decomissioned lakers like the seaway queen they are most defintely winched onto the beach though because they are not authorized to operate on the high seas, they are not very strong hulled ships and the seaway queen for example nearly broke up in transit. the sageunay went to the breakers last year, a ghostly sight riding high in the water her balast tanks dry looking almost as though she could tip at any time
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| | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 10 on 4/24/2006 1:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by nostra-YOUPPI!
when it comes to decomissioned lakers like the seaway queen they are most defintely winched onto the beach though because they are not authorized to operate on the high seas, they are not very strong hulled ships and the seaway queen for example nearly broke up in transit. the sageunay went to the breakers last year, a ghostly sight riding high in the water her balast tanks dry looking almost as though she could tip at any time
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Breaking Ocean going ships in India and Bangaladesh and lakers in places like Port Colbourne in Ontario are Different Monsters entirely.
I know for a fact that the Breakers in Port Colbourne meets as many international standards for environmental remediation and care as they can, not to mention worker safety, Iindia and Bangaladesh, not so much.
And, like i said, not necessarily towed, if they can be driven ashore, its much easier, but yes, many dead ships have to be towed ashore. I am surprised that the Lakers at the end of their lives are surviving the transits, because the oceans are a vastly different monster than the lakes they were designed to transit.
http://www.cbc.ca/...igbreak/story.html
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| | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 11 on 4/24/2006 1:59 PM >
| | | | Some shipbreaking is done in North America as well. N.
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<Reply # 12 on 4/24/2006 2:19 PM >
| | | | Posted by Duct Tape
Breaking Ocean going ships in India and Bangaladesh and lakers in places like Port Colbourne in Ontario are Different Monsters entirely.
I know for a fact that the Breakers in Port Colbourne meets as many international standards for environmental remediation and care as they can, not to mention worker safety, Iindia and Bangaladesh, not so much.
And, like i said, not necessarily towed, if they can be driven ashore, its much easier, but yes, many dead ships have to be towed ashore. I am surprised that the Lakers at the end of their lives are surviving the transits, because the oceans are a vastly different monster than the lakes they were designed to transit.
http://www.cbc.ca/...igbreak/story.html
IMG in Port C - http://www.rawmaterials.com/
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canada steamship lines, ULS and algoma have a token amount of ships broken in port colborne "to save face" the vast majority of thier ships are broken in aliaga turkey, alang india or chittagong
canadian lake ships that have gone overseas:
seaway queen
oakglen
MAC Gagne (sageunay)
mapleglen
algocape
ferbec (can you call it a laker lol)
canadian voyager
algoriver
canadian trader
canadian venture
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| | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 14 on 4/24/2006 3:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jondoe_264
Wow! That Google earth link, that looks amazing! Would sooo love to explore there!
JD
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Can you imagine? A huge array of different settings, from big industrial tankers and freighters, to the decaying elegant ocean liners of the 50's and 60's. Some of those liners are absolutely spectacular in a way that today's floating boxes will never be. At the same time, exploring the depths of an industrial giant would be absolutely fascinating. I'd love the have the run of the lot of them, one ship per day please. Maybe not technically UE, but definitely exploration that most people would never get to experience.
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| | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 15 on 4/24/2006 3:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by OptFlv
Can you imagine? A huge array of different settings, from big industrial tankers and freighters, to the decaying elegant ocean liners of the 50's and 60's. Some of those liners are absolutely spectacular in a way that today's floating boxes will never be. At the same time, exploring the depths of an industrial giant would be absolutely fascinating. I'd love the have the run of the lot of them, one ship per day please. Maybe not technically UE, but definitely exploration that most people would never get to experience.
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Yup! That would be amazing!
JD
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Umpire
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<Reply # 16 on 4/24/2006 5:18 PM >
| | | | i have been lucky enough to kissass my way onto a few lakers at the dock near where i work including the gordon leitch when they had just hit a rock and were pumping out the bottom, incredible, the leitch has a cort so the hydraulics controlling that thing are spectacular
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| | | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 18 on 12/4/2006 12:12 PM >
| | | | amazing link 
Have just spent a good 20 mins scrolling up and down the beach!!!
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| | | Re: Giant ship yard in India
<Reply # 19 on 12/8/2006 2:14 AM >
| | | | man, that sure would be a sight to see. amazing
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