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UER Forum > Archived UE Photography > copyright issues? (Viewed 1421 times)
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copyright issues?
< on 3/16/2006 5:56 AM >
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i have SO many pics to post, but i want to be sure they are legally copyrighted first, just in case. what's the quickest /easiest way to do this in the states?

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 1 on 3/16/2006 5:59 AM >
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I was curious about how to do that too... how does one *officially* copyright a photograph?

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 2 on 3/16/2006 7:18 AM >
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Works created after Jan. 1, 1978 as protected under copyright law as soon as it is "fixed in a tangible medium of expression", and includes protection against derivative work, distribution rights, display, and probably most importantly for you guys, digital transmission. You maintain the copyright for the duration of your life plus fifty years.

What this generally means is that as soon as the work is produced, and "signed" or claimed (digital signatures are acceptable), it's automatically copyrighted. Before 1978, copyrights were registered manually.

These are the guidelines we use for museums, but maybe a photographer can be more helpful. There are plenty exceptions to standard copyright laws, and most significantly is "fair use", which allows for reproduction for purposes of "criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship or research." Sorry I can't cite the codes specifically, but I'm just using our copyright handbook.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 3 on 3/16/2006 7:44 AM >
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Never heard of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA


Now, could you please post your pictures? I really can't wait to steal them and make tons of money.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 4 on 3/16/2006 2:23 PM >
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Do you honestly think that if you say that your images are copyrighted, that will make someone not steal them?

If yes, please explain what you are smoking, as some of us might be more interested in knowing that other than seeing the pictures.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 5 on 3/16/2006 5:08 PM >
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Seriously, if someone wants to steal your images they're gonna do it and you will probably never know about it. You can put a big "©" over the image and write your name all over it but why bother even showing us the picture then?

You are already protected by copyright anyway -- as soon as you create (release?) the work it is protected by copyright -- but if you want to register it, you can put them all on a disc and send it (and $35) in to the US copyright office as a compilation.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 6 on 3/16/2006 5:38 PM >
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An easy and inexpensive way to prove copyright would be to print the pictures and mail them to yourself. Leave the envelope sealed, the postmark would show the date of publish.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 7 on 3/16/2006 5:41 PM >
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Posted by Ninjako
An easy and inexpensive way to prove copyright would be to print the pictures and mail them to yourself. Leave the envelope sealed, the postmark would show the date of publish.


Not really.

http://www.snopes.com/legal/postmark.asp

and

http://www.copyrig...-general.html#what
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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 8 on 3/16/2006 11:20 PM >
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In the United States, Once you take a picture, it's protected under current U.S. copyright laws. Most of the time, a copyright symbol along with your name and year the photo was taken is sufficient protection. You can also register your photos for $35.00 for an extra measure of protection but it's really not required. It's a difference between a copyright and a registered copyright and it's really a very fine line under the law. You can submit multiple photos of the same type for the same $35.00 so, you can send in $35.00 and a package of, say, 50 prints and they are all registered. You will not get them back, they are kept on file as a record of your copyright. When posting copyrighted works on the web, anyone can steal them but your copyright, registered or otherwise allows you to sue whoever steals them and and win in court. Yes, Virginia, you have to hire an attorney and take the thief to court. Here's the fun part, If someone copies your 640x480 72dpi low resolution image and posts it on thier website and says "Hey everyone, take a look at this really kewl pic!" and makes no money off the deal, it's not really worth your time or money to sue them. If you've sold a 11x14 print of said image, someone scans it and sells copies for $500 each, you are entitled to collect from them whatever they made off them plus any losses you incurred out of the deal. Most photographers who post images on websites post low resolution smaller images because they are less likely to be stolen and copied for commercial purposes. Bottom line, if you are a photographer and sell or receive an income from your images, be concerned and protect yourself. If they are fun images and you have no intention of making money from them, don't sweat it.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 9 on 3/16/2006 11:23 PM >
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In the realm of people who are going to steal your pictures, the users of this board are probably the people you have to worry about the least.
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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 10 on 3/17/2006 12:55 AM >
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I tend to save some of the pictures that ppl on here take just becaause they're so damn cool, and i wanna look at em more. When i do anything with em I always try to include credit of who took them. Which reminds me, who took that wickeldy awesome pic on the roof of Danvers and photoshopped it to make the sky orange? I have it on my Myspace because it's so sweet, and gives an insight to what one of my hobbies is, but I could never remember who took it. . .
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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 11 on 3/17/2006 1:19 AM >
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This is what we use at work:

http://www.digimar...ark/mypicturemarc/

Notice that you can track your images on the internet? Very good pricing and it really works.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 12 on 3/17/2006 1:46 AM >
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People steal low rez pics from the internet all the time. There's not much anyone can do about it. I don't know why people worry so much about it. As long as they have the originals in there possession they can prove without a doubt that they are the legal owners and whatnot. And that's even if it becomes an issue at all.

Now if someone does something like post links to original files well, that's a different story. But even that happening and the work being of any value is highly unlikely.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 13 on 3/17/2006 5:11 AM >
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Posted by ExploringOhio
I tend to save some of the pictures that ppl on here take just becaause they're so damn cool, and i wanna look at em more. When i do anything with em I always try to include credit of who took them. Which reminds me, who took that wickeldy awesome pic on the roof of Danvers and photoshopped it to make the sky orange? I have it on my Myspace because it's so sweet, and gives an insight to what one of my hobbies is, but I could never remember who took it. . .


I'd advise that you request permission to display works, as that is technically in violation of copyright laws. However, I am unsure of the legality of saving pictures. I know that I do it all the time--I have a whole folder of photographs/designs which inspire me. I suppose that if it's not harming anyone that there is no problem.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 14 on 3/17/2006 5:22 AM >
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It is $30 to submit a body of work to the library of congress you can keep adding to that body of without any additional fees as long as it's the same body of work and not a new one.

There are fishy issues on copyright right now.
There is a law/act/bill whatever being passed about works that are supposedly "orphaned" meaning if someone likes your stuff, and they don't know how to reach you, they can just claim it and make money off of it.
Crappy, but true.

Everything that is a "fixed" piece of work is copyrighted once you've made it, it's just not registered.

The other shitty thing is... If you are in another country the US doesn't always recognize that copyright, but everywhere else will recognize US copyrighted works.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 15 on 3/17/2006 6:14 PM >
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Myself i'm not to worried about copyrights, i don't put any sort of tag on my pictures. If people want to use them it's fine with me. I'm not trying to make any money from them though. If i was trying to make money i might be a little more worried about copyrights. Even still people will and do take images and use them as there own all the time. It's just a fact of life, and unless you have a good amount of money good luck enforcing them copyrights. I belive if you know a person is using your copyrighted work, without your permission and you do nothing, you lose your right to the copyright. I'm not sure on that but i think i've heard it someplace.


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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 16 on 3/17/2006 8:22 PM >
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This issue pops up quite a bit from time to time on the glamour forums. There's a lot more image theft going on there. While it's true that your photos are automatically copyrighted the instant you create them, if you're going to pursue a lawsuit, your odds of winning are much greater if they are registered. And Lexiphoto is correct that there are some law changes in the works that may not come out in our favor. I still stamp my stuff with the © symbol, but frankly I'd be flattered if something of mine showed up on someone else's site.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 17 on 3/18/2006 3:11 AM >
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Here's a novel idea:
Worried about copyright? Don't plaster them all over the fucking internet.

And since I'm feeling charitable, here's another one:
Place a big hologram over every one, make a DA or other artfag site, and see how many morons will buy your bullshit prints at ripoff prices.

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 18 on 3/18/2006 7:28 AM >
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Posted by Caveman6666
Here's a novel idea:
Worried about copyright? Don't plaster them all over the fucking internet.

And since I'm feeling charitable, here's another one:
Place a big hologram over every one, make a DA or other artfag site, and see how many morons will buy your bullshit prints at ripoff prices.


You sound pretty jaded. Did your gallery go bankrupt or something?

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Re: copyright issues?
<Reply # 19 on 3/18/2006 3:55 PM >
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Unfortunately There is alot of ripping off of all sorts of things on the net pictures included. You can sue etc.. but you do have to weigh what the cost is to do that since your claim is going to based on what damages you suffered by someone using your photo. For the general hobby photographer who doesnt sell anything, it's a little hard to prove damages and regardless of what the "law" may say on fines etc.. judges tend to look at what loss your going to have. A great simple explanation of copyright reality vs myths is at http://www.templet...rad/copymyths.html
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