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 Doug
   
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 100 on 2/15/2006 3:08 AM >
|  | | | What we need is to start a forums/community and let everyone join no matter their age or whether they explore or not... then get the numbers up to 10,000.
That will work.
The Urbex Zine Guy
https://www.cavecl...wtopic.php?t=12259
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grit1
Location: University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
| |  | Re: resignation
<Reply # 101 on 2/15/2006 3:17 AM >
| | | | Posted by Doug
What we need is to start a forums/community and let everyone join no matter their age or whether they explore or not... then get the numbers up to 10,000.
That will work.
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Case in point - www.lockpicking101.com
N00bs signed fresh daily - with over 14,000 members.
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seicer
  
Location: New York
Gender: Male
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 102 on 2/15/2006 3:43 AM >
| | | | The moderators who resigned were great for what they did behind the scenes. Granted, I thought some were not fair and were anal about a lot of issues, but they were understanding and often came to your side if you needed their assistance and help. They have been the ones who have stuck around the scene for a while, and ones that often garnered a lot of respect from people.
While we sparred our differences at times, I considered the moderator team to be one of the best operated in the many forums I participate in. As much as I voiced my displeasure at some mods in the past, I did not mean for there to be any harm between any of you, and certaintly did not mean any disrespect.
In the two years I've been at UER, I've been accidently temp-banned, to which I jabbed at Ed for. He didn't get upset; instead, he was very patient and understanding, and the situation was settled out fairly quickly. Apologies were put around on both sides. I've also been Jestered, and is something that I now see that I did wrong and would like to apologise for; thankfully, Jester is cooler-headed than I am. Thanks for not temp-banning me a while back for those actions, even though you were surely tempted to do so.
Perhaps this will shake things up on UER. definite changes coming? Perhaps, but this has already made people digusted at UER for what it has become. A behemoth of users, both young and old, that have varying opinions that all clash. Granted it has a LOT of users, but in all reality, how many stick around after the first month? Not a lot.
In retrospect, I wish the ones who left the best of luck. They stood up for what they believed in, and this is something you don't see out of many forums for fear of rebuttal, in real life (e.g. outside of forums) or not. Kudos, my hats off to all of you.
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Monkey Boy
Location: Orlando Fl
Gender: Male
Gone Bananas!
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 103 on 2/15/2006 4:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
I also think we shouldn't jump down Av's throat before he has a chance to state his side of the story.
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Ok so where is it? Its 6 pages long already and no side of him. I'm thinking he's getting some paper and pens and trying to come up with the mother of all "Turn arround" Statement to try to convince as many people as he can with it. And I KNOW he has seen this thread. But you know what? Just like the other threads disappeared about resignations, i'm thinking he'll go like "Oh, this looks ugly, i'm gona delete it and pretend it didn't happened, and if someone starts another one, I'll delete that too".
Good, bad, ugly, hot, Fat, slim, offensive, Educative, Right, wrong. these are all points of view.
In UER, AV is God.
In real life...in real life..... Who gives a shit.
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 104 on 2/15/2006 4:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by Freak
Due to inconsistent policy and heavy-handed administration, I no longer feel that I can effectively perform my duties as a UER moderator. I have tried to explain my position in private, but have essentially been told that moderator opinions do not count.
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Ignore the below, I didn't know he already quit when I wrote this.
"Apparently they do, Jester deletes fucking post for absolutely no valid reason and it's WRONG. Somebody needs to suspend his ahem...powers.
I think some mods think thier the fucking internet gestapo and take it upon themselves to censor/delete shit they have no business to. Goddamned police mentality."
I'll be smiling for days over this turn of events. =)
[last edit 2/15/2006 4:46 AM by Slickis - edited 1 times]
I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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Capone
Location: London, Ontario
Gender: Male
UEL
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 105 on 2/15/2006 4:37 AM >
| | | | Well this has been a long time coming, but I can't really say I'm surprised. I'll leave it at that.
And people wonder why I hardly post on here anymore...
So there I was, in this creepy old hallway... |
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Walking Talking Poison
 
Location: Big Island, Hawaii
Gender: Female
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 106 on 2/15/2006 4:40 AM >
| | | | This all started over that damn disney pic? Hasnt Disney ruined enough crap already? You have to let it ruin the forum too?
As a mom of 3 I am bombarded with their crap on a daily basis! If you let them ruin this forum I will be forced to climb magic mountain with my AK and unleash!!!!!!!!!
<.·´¯`·.WªLkïng¯|¯ªLkïngPoïsØN ¸.·´¯`·.¸> |
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maypost
Location: North, South, East, West, all around... then down to the underground
Gender: Male
Exploring if for n00bz0rz
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 107 on 2/15/2006 4:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by Walking Talking Poison
This all started over that damn disney pic? Hasnt Disney ruined enough crap already? You have to let it ruin the forum too?
As a mom of 3 I am bombarded with their crap on a daily basis! If you let them ruin this forum I will be forced to climb magic mountain with my AK and unleash!!!!!!!!!
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First sensible thing I have heard all day 
Exploring is like tattoos... They stopped being cool in 2005
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 108 on 2/15/2006 4:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
This has been a long time coming. I've stayed through a lot of bad here, and there's some things that need to be said. I put a hell of a lot of effort into moderating here, under the belif that what I did was at the very least respected by Av. I've finally been shown that it was not the case. It's sad to drop something I've put a lot of caring into, but there's no choice now.
I deliberatly put myself in front of as much negativity here as was possible, to draw all the hate I could away from Av, for the good of the forum community. He doesn't take it well, and lashes out, so I took as many of the shots to keep him safer from it as it were. I took more abuse than about all the mods combined, and Av would tell me I was too sensitive if I complained. But if he got even slightly insulted, it was wrath of god. Well, it's his site, and his rules, and now it can be him taking every attack straight on. I won't be taking any more bullets for him.
The issue here was not the picture, the picture was the catalyst only. With one face Av would tell us mods how valued we were, but that only lasted as long as we agreed with him fully. If we disagreed, the other face would ignore us no matter how rational and logical our argument to him. His forum, he's the dictator for life and he'll do as he pleases. But he'd prefer if the mods thought they actually had a say, when in reality he wanted glorified cheerleaders.
Jester's not taking this shit anymore.
You can take this job, and shove it.
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Best news i've heard in awhile! WOOOHOOO!
BTW, Jester may be an ok guy since hes done with the bullshit.
[last edit 2/15/2006 5:48 AM by Slickis - edited 1 times]
I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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WingedNatalina
Gender: Female
S(ue)/P(ie)
| | | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 109 on 2/15/2006 4:46 AM >
| | | | What's amazing to me is that all the dates say 2/15 to me and it's still 2/14 here. But I'm retarded and didn't set it right I guess..
I don't know any of you guys really, I don't think at least. but that sucks you're leaving.. Flame wars are ridiculous and I wish the world could get along.
Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. |
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 110 on 2/15/2006 4:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by seicer
I've also been Jestered
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Me to for no feasible reason whatsoever.
BTW seicer, Hows abandoned comming along? Got a LDB yet? I'm about ready to join.
I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 111 on 2/15/2006 4:59 AM >
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SWEET SITE grit1! ty for making me aware.
I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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Walking Talking Poison
Location: Big Island, Hawaii
Gender: Female
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 112 on 2/15/2006 4:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by Slickis
Me to for no feasible reason whatsoever.
BTW seicer, Hows abandoned comming along? Got a LDB yet? I'm about ready to join.
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I have never been deleted by Jester even though I always find myself at the opposite end of the ethics spectrum. I have argued with him on almost every thread we have both posted on. Are you sure it was him that deleted you?
<.·´¯`·.WªLkïng¯|¯ªLkïngPoïsØN ¸.·´¯`·.¸> |
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Archer
Location: Toronto, ON
Gender: Male
Imperator Sagittario
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 113 on 2/15/2006 5:09 AM >
| | | | Freak, Kowalski, Ed, MacGyver, and Jester; thanks for the behind-the-scenes work you guys did here for us. And I'm also glad to see that there are still people who know when to throw in the towel and move on.
I'd also like to see what Av has to say, just so I'm not getting one side of a two sided debate.
[last edit 2/15/2006 5:17 AM by Archer - edited 1 times]
Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com
"We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." |
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 114 on 2/15/2006 5:46 AM >
| | | | Posted by Walking Talking Poison
I have never been deleted by Jester even though I always find myself at the opposite end of the ethics spectrum. I have argued with him on almost every thread we have both posted on. Are you sure it was him that deleted you?
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Yeah, would you like to see the pm's he sent me?
I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 115 on 2/15/2006 5:50 AM >
| | | | Posted by Slickis
Me to for no feasible reason whatsoever.
BTW seicer, Hows abandoned comming along? Got a LDB yet? I'm about ready to join.
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Whether i'm a mod or not I'd say racist remarks aren't allowed, which explains your deletions.
But that's just me and my opinion.
And as i've seen, the terms of service agreement isn't followed anyways, so really, be as racist as you want I guess, feel free, i can't delete anything at all now.
[last edit 2/15/2006 6:00 AM by Jester - edited 1 times]
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Mr_M
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 116 on 2/15/2006 6:00 AM >
| | | | Sad that the first time I post it the last time I post. I came to this community because I have an interest in the art and enjoyment of UE. Unfortunately this community seems to have lost it's vision. Has everyone forgotten that the whole point is to go out and actually explore? I started lurking here quite a while ago because I was interested in the subject and I enjoyed seeing the photos of buildings and hearing the stories of other peoples adventures. I unfortunately am not able to get out and explore, because of my current location and job, and was enjoying living vicariously through the adventures of others. I am sad to say that I have seen many web communities fall apart, and I was hoping that the people here could keep it together.
Oh well, guess it's time to go out and wander around...
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lexiphoto
Location: Denver, Colorado
Gender: Female
UE Den Mother
| |  | | | Re: resignation
<Reply # 117 on 2/15/2006 6:06 AM >
| | | | I haven't been around so long and probably shouldn't comment.
But damn, this is just as bad as livejournal at times.
Nothing Satisfies Like Beef! |
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Kay O. Sweaver
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Gender: Male
Happiness is saying yes more often than no.
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 118 on 2/15/2006 6:15 AM >
| | | | Retiring mods, I know most of you to some extent. My hat goes off to you for hanging on this long. I lost patience long ago but you recognized the good things this community provided and stuck it out. When I got angry and spat venom you talked reason, as a result you bought time for this community.
UEA had a similar blowup two years ago. We realised that UE cannot be owned and that smaller, closer knit groups are much more functional than sprawling Internet communities. We also saw several of our members choose a different path, because our goals and our beliefs differed.
Whatever happens here, learn from it, and build something stronger.
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Amy Smith is an infected slut |
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Slickis
Noble Donor
Location: Kokomo, Indiana
Gender: Male
Rest In Piece Booger 4-6-08
| | Re: resignation
<Reply # 119 on 2/15/2006 6:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
Whether i'm a mod or not I'd say racist remarks aren't allowed, which explains your deletions.
But that's just me and my opinion.
And as i've seen, the terms of service agreement isn't followed anyways, so really, be as racist as you want I guess, feel free, i can't delete anything at all now.
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Like a said b4, ur prolly an ok person in life. You couldn't pay me to mod here.
I said nothing rasist btw, You read why I I felt that way. The bastards or one anyway killed my friend. Maybe not all muslims are bad but that one sure was and I hope he roast in hell. I'm sure he is as he lasted about 20 seconds after capping my bud.
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I've been feeling funny since I went in that open crypt. Not sure what it is. |
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