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 TurboZutek
     
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
 |  |  |  | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 20 on 11/29/2005 2:38 PM >
|  | | | Posted by seicer
We have the National Register of Historic Places. Localized areas may have others. For example, we have the Bluegrass Trust which marks historical buildings in our area as well.
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Your system isn't that good - you are still pulling down Danvers (Sorry).
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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seicer
Location: New York
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 21 on 11/29/2005 2:49 PM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
Your system isn't that good - you are still pulling down Danvers (Sorry).
Chris...
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You can't measure the demolishment of one structure to be the end-all for a historic register that has saved thousands of other buildings and locations.
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 22 on 11/29/2005 3:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by seicer
You can't measure the demolishment of one structure to be the end-all for a historic register that has saved thousands of other buildings and locations.
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You can if in your country that same structure would have had automatic historical protection, due to its age.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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ian_evil
  
Location: Providence, Rhode Island
Gender: Male
we hope you have enjoyed our program.
| |  | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 23 on 11/29/2005 3:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
You can if in your country that same structure would have had automatic historical protection, due to its age.
Chris...
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Part of the problem with the DSH demolition, is the fact that regardless of any official historical protection, and in spite of the legal action that has come against the developers, Avalon Bay has basically bribed the local government. They tip-toed around the legal proceedings, and have received permission to demolish the building without the general public knowing.
It's not the Nation Registry that's failed, it's greed and corruption in the local courts.
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D-rock240
Location: Baltimore
Gender: Male
| | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 24 on 11/29/2005 4:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ian Evil
Part of the problem with the DSH demolition, is the fact that regardless of any official historical protection, and in spite of the legal action that has come against the developers, Avalon Bay has basically bribed the local government. They tip-toed around the legal proceedings, and have received permission to demolish the building without the general public knowing.
It's not the Nation Registry that's failed, it's greed and corruption in the local courts.
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Yeah the real estate market is shady here. I'm glad that private developers were denied the right to claim eminent domain for commercial property, it would've only made it that much easier to get what they want without going through the property owners and courts.
"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Katherine Harris said.
separating religion and politics is "wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers." :( |
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 25 on 11/29/2005 8:35 PM >
| | | | See, knocking down a listed building here (especially one the size of Dahhhhnvers) would get you a good few years in the jail.
And you can try and bribe whichever local authority you care to name.
Anyways, I'm not mentioning this to rub salt in wounds, just that I think this is a crying shame... A genuinely historic building with so much to offer... Danvers... Knocked down!???
Good example right here, we all know this place:
Gartloch Asylum, Glasgow.
Now it's been converted into an apartment complex - with every original architectural feature of the building kept pretty much as is. Don't get me wrong, the body that owned this building (the NHS) would have loved nothing more than to tear the place down and sell the land.
But they couldn't... And they can't.
If it can work here in this manner, the wee tiny island that is the UK - I don't see the huge insurmountable problem with it working in the US?
This is why we HAVE history... Because we try and keep it.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Mike Dijital
 
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 26 on 11/29/2005 8:51 PM >
| | | | I really wish I would get a chance to see that place. I mean , I loved Session8 and the Denver State hospital is one of my favorite places. Does anyone know how I can get in?
www.deggi5.com / www.mikedijital.com |
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ian_evil
Location: Providence, Rhode Island
Gender: Male
we hope you have enjoyed our program.
| | | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 27 on 11/29/2005 8:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mike Dijital
I loved Session8 and the Denver State hospital is one of my favorite places. Does anyone know how I can get in?
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Some prick from DegGi5 knows. He told me he'd drag me along next time he went, but I haven't heard back from him.
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J Peterman
Location: Victoria B.C.
I'm going hunting for mysteries, cover me.
| | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 28 on 11/29/2005 9:32 PM >
|  | | | Imagine buying that place and turning into a big paintball game area, building and all. On the serious side though, how much do you think it would cost to save? How much is the property worth? Who owns it?
I'm going hunting for mysteries, cover me. |
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Samurai
Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 29 on 11/29/2005 9:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by D-rock240
Yeah the real estate market is shady here. I'm glad that private developers were denied the right to claim eminent domain for commercial property, it would've only made it that much easier to get what they want without going through the property owners and courts.
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Real estate is shady EVERYWHERE! Over in Vermont, the realtors over there would set fire to their parents to sell a tasty piece of land, landmark or not. DEVELOP DEVELOP DEVELOP!!!!
Here in the Adirondacks, it's the same damn way. The only thing that slows the developers down is the Adirondack Park Agency. You have to get by those hard-nosed pricks to even make a parking lot somewhere. They've managed to keep condominiums, golf courses, rich people playground equipment in check.
Most classic buildings here get torched by redneck retard fuckheads.
Samurai
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 30 on 11/29/2005 9:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mike Dijital
I really wish I would get a chance to see that place. I mean , I loved Session8 and the Denver State hospital is one of my favorite places. Does anyone know how I can get in?
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Na hahahahhahahahhahahahahaha!!!
I was supposed to go once, but I got sick.
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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ali_boom-boom
Location: South Dakota
Gender: Female
Someone got into the jam again...
| | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 31 on 11/30/2005 12:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
Fuck, it's a crime knocking the place down!!!
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it's a crock of shit. (tearing the asylum down, i mean)
I happened to like the movie, but probably just because of the creepy setting. can't really remember much about the plot. i always wanted to watch the movie again with my boyfriend, just so he could see how cool the place is.
I'm the sucker. |
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Syd
This member has been banned.
| | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 32 on 11/30/2005 1:34 AM >
| | | | When it comes down to the stat making a few bucks nothing is going to stop it from happening.
Mike I think it was Doom Asylum that was filmed there not session 8
Pick up your ethics and go home. |
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darbycrashin
Noble Donor
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Gender: Female
| | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 33 on 11/30/2005 3:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
If it can work here in this manner, the wee tiny island that is the UK - I don't see the huge insurmountable problem with it working in the US?
This is why we HAVE history... Because we try and keep it.
Chris...
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the US doesn't care about history, they're all about money!
whats going there anyway? condos? geeez...
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Asher Archive
Pikachu
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 34 on 11/30/2005 3:48 AM >
| | | | Canada isn't doing so well in the "keeping our history alive" bit. Last I heard WPH, in Ontario, was being turned to dust. I've seen far too many buildings in rural Ontario be wiped down so that 'burbs could be put in place.
Just a thought.
As far as Session 9 goes: Loved it.
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MattTrakker
Location: North Shore, MA
Gender: Male
Mark it zero!
| | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 35 on 11/30/2005 4:45 AM >
| | | | The way into Denver Hospital is the underground tunnel from the basement of Stop and Shop...lol
Apparently the Nat'l Register of Historic Places doesn't apply when you're dealing with a company like Avalon Bay, the largest real estate developer in the US. They suck.
I think a large part of the problem is that no one realizes it's coming down. I'd say over 90% of people in MA know about Danvers. It's the "nuthouse on the hill" to everyone. People are so used to it just sitting up there stagnant, and thinking that it's haunted or something, that they don't realize it could be coming down.
Everyone I tell about the sale and impending demo is astonished, and says something to the effect of "Isn't it a historic building though? It's illegal!!!"
"Walter, what are you doing, man?"
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| |  | | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 36 on 11/30/2005 2:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by Asher
I've seen far too many buildings in rural Ontario be wiped down so that 'burbs could be put in place.
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...or burned to the ground by 13-year olds, and then turned into old age homes. That's why I think the motto for exploring in Ontario should be "Get 'em while they're hot!". You turn your back on a historical building, and two seconds later it's either a parking lot or a Starbucks.
C.
Disgruntled. |
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Drie
Rat-Hole Chic
Location: Hudson Valley NY
Gender: Female
bringing it back.
| | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 37 on 11/30/2005 3:48 PM >
| | | | No, matt...everyone knows you get in through the magic tree in the woods!
Drie - www.synestheticlight.com
"In the absence of the living, there still exists a life." |
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Allva
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
I have my moments.
| | | Re: Insane Asylum from Session 9
<Reply # 39 on 11/30/2005 11:11 PM >
| | | | Probably one of the better films I've seen in sometime.
Too bad I missed it in the movie theatres.
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Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid. |
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