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 Brooks
   
Location: Fall River Ma
Gender: Male
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< on 11/9/2005 5:23 PM >
|  | | | Theres a abandoned police station in my city. I just checked it out and its right next door to the court house. All the windows are boarded and its right on a busy street. I was wondering if anyone ever has gotten permission from the city to go inside a abandoned building. The buildings in real good shape so its not dangerous and if anyone has gotten permission who did they get it from. I was going through my city webpage and they have tons of phone numbers for different people and departments of the city but I have no clue which or who to call or talk to about it.
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softasylum
Location: Mattaponi, VA
Gender: Female
cancel my subscription to the resurrection
| |  | |  | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 1 on 11/9/2005 6:13 PM >
| | | | i don't suppose that it would hurt to ask. BUT, with that said, if you ask and they say no, then you go anyhow and get caught, you will probably get in a lot more trouble.
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Spyder
   
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
Holy Fuck!!! There's a tree frog in the toilet!
| | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 2 on 11/9/2005 6:30 PM >
| | | | Why not ask your city councillor, tell him your are interested in historical buildings for photo preservation, and have him get you the permission you need.
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Logan
 
Location: Ra-Cha-Cha, NY
Gender: Male
We miss you Jerry
| | | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 3 on 11/9/2005 6:42 PM >
| | | | Tell them you want photos. Say that it would be ok if they would have someone there to watch you. I wouldn't give an excuse like you need the photos for a project or something, because they may want to see the project or whatever when you are done with it. And that would be a pain in the ass.
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compwiz32190
Location: PA, United States
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 4 on 11/9/2005 10:08 PM >
| | | | It never hurts to try, but I doubt it because no matter how good condition the building is in, a city/town doesn't want to risk being sued under any circumstances. You are probably better off in this case not asking for permission. (If you still want to contact the city, e-mail is probably the easiest and most anon. way)
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Sleeper_Cell
Location: OAKLAND aka The Town (Jingle Town)
Gender: Male
Gangsta
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 5 on 11/9/2005 11:06 PM >
| | | | The power of a camera is wonders..
If you really want to access locations as such, get a press pass. It's really not too hard of a task and it really helps opening doors within a city.
That or use the "Student" on a "Project" ... blah blah.. that seems to work also.
Then again they may be uncool with it. but as others have stated, asking can not hurt, just dont ask and then break in to only get caught, naamean!?
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statik
Location: colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 6 on 11/9/2005 11:08 PM >
| | | | Join your state's historical society.
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Brooks
Location: Fall River Ma
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 7 on 11/10/2005 3:00 AM >
| | | | If I "broke in" haha and got caught Id either get charged with trespassing or let go whether I asked for permission or not. The cops not going to call the city councilor to ask haha. Yea its seeming unlikely to happen because of sue happy ass america
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Spyder
Location: Ottawa
Gender: Male
Holy Fuck!!! There's a tree frog in the toilet!
| | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 8 on 11/10/2005 5:52 PM >
| | | | When I suggested the idea of asking your city councillor I didn't mean that you would get permission from him, I ment that you would start with him, get him on board with your idea and then have him find out who in the city needs to approve the visit and get their permission.
Having your city councillor on your side might increase your chances of getting in.
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Mister Sable
Location: Palliser City
Gender: Male
The Man with the Hat (the other man)
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 9 on 11/10/2005 10:53 PM >
| | | | I'm impressed with your responses, folks. Just had to say it.
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Tiberius
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
I'm not wearing pants
| | | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 10 on 11/10/2005 11:12 PM >
| | | | Some guy in Toronto (I think it was there) got permission from the owner of the old ass brick factory and then went around and charged people 250 dollars to go take photos for 3 hours.
If it were a private property you would have a better chance of getting permission, but with the city it may be more challenging because of all the obstacles i.e. paperwork, going in front of the board, talking to a lot of people. Usually people authoritarian positions won't allow someone to go into a old building unless you are on the historical society and are going to do it "safely" whatever the hell that means.
Go for it! Maybe you'll get lucky...
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Cowboy Wayne
Location: Evansville, Indiana.
Gender: Male
I'm sorry; I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
| | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 11 on 11/11/2005 2:09 AM >
| | | | If it's government owned, is it possible to get some sort of contract waiving liability?
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avoidsreality
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 12 on 11/29/2005 4:07 AM >
| | | | late poster!
I don't know about government property, things like that.
And not to put a damper on the party, but I've tried to get access to quite a few buildings (mostly hospitals.)
1st one: took me two hours on the phone with every department of the state's govt/police/etc to find anyone who'd even HEARD about the abandoned building...didn't really do any good either.
2nd: was owned by a preservation society, they were more than happy for me to come look at it, but weren't going to let me in because of floor damage/potential danger
3rd: was privately owned and on the market, i could have gotten permission from the realtor to go look at it, but it would have been with an escort, so not much real exploring would go on.
after that i gave up and did things my own way.
an idea for anyone who is interested in going to a building:
i was a photography major and our class got to go, for two weekends in a row, as a group, two days each weekend, into a closed prison. The guards opened anything we wanted into, and we could roam anywhere and everywhere, even basements where it was pitch black, cells...you name it...we got in.
I wonder if a group of lay people got together and expressed interest en masse like that, if the city/owners/realtors/etc would be nice enough to accomodate?
p.s. i would think that even if you try to get permission and give your name and are denied, then go try to get into a place and manage to get caught...chances are the person who catches you is not going to know you attempted to get access legally and were denied.
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Persephone
Gender: Female
| | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 13 on 11/30/2005 2:01 AM >
|  | | | I think this is kind of interesting. I might ask for permission myself to visit this ex mil base.
Is the City Counselor the best person to ask though?
Persephone
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avoidsreality
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 14 on 11/30/2005 3:50 AM >
| | | | i think you would have to start with the department/office that is in charge of the particular site.
the 2 hours i spent on the phone trying to access a hospital ended with them telling me to contact the police department that patrolled the site.
so...if it's a military base still owned by the military (i don't know that they'd really love to have visitors) try the military.
if a real estate agency is involved, try them.
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statik
Location: colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
| | | Re: Getting permission from city
<Reply # 15 on 11/30/2005 12:39 PM >
| | | | Posted by Persephone
I think this is kind of interesting. I might ask for permission myself to visit this ex mil base.
Is the City Counselor the best person to ask though?
Persephone
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If your site is still owned and maintained by the military, you've no hope of getting permission.
But the Army Corps of Engineers takes over when a facility shuts down, and they should at least have records of any property that's been sold off, and to whom they've been sold.
It was before the Patriot Act, but a few phone calls to the Corps office in Omaha and the Dept of Agriculture got me ownership info for all the missile bases in Colorado, although they were both taken aback that someone was actually interested in visiting such areas in the first place, and furthermore that said someone was going to try to get permission first.
Type your zip code here to find your district COE office.
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