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 Mr.Rat
Location: united states
Gender: Male
 |  | CSO'S.
< on 9/10/2003 9:19 PM >
|  | | | I was exploring in this local canal and there was this sign warning of combined sewer overflow's CSO'S.
Anyone else no what I'm talking about?
Is this a big health hazard for explorers and the like?
Tunnel rats eat raw sewage. |
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Jester
 
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| |  | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 1 on 9/10/2003 9:22 PM >
|  | | | That means that sewer (wastes) will run with stormwater as well, a combined flow. Most explorers will avoid this, though I have heard of some going in... I'm sure some of the drain experts here can elaborate far better than I.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Mr.Rat
Location: united states
Gender: Male
| | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 2 on 9/10/2003 9:26 PM >
| | | | Well it's all apart of the adventure for me. When I wnet in the canl it's obvious graffiti writers go in that shit (it literally is shit I guess).
People actually swin in the creek part. (It's not any cleaner @ all)
Tunnel rats eat raw sewage. |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 3 on 9/10/2003 9:31 PM >
| | | | That seems extremely disgusting... If it is sewer, then venturing into it, you can end up getting into areas with gases displacing oxygen... Not a place I'd go.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Mr.Rat
Location: united states
Gender: Male
| | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 4 on 9/10/2003 9:45 PM >
| | | | Well it's not a tunnel. It's not enclosed at the top.
It's like this.
A wall on each side. Ranges from 8-20 feet in height,
Like a walkway type deal on each side. 8 feet wide. And An approxamately 3 foot wide thing that always has water in it down the middle.
I don't actually go into the canal when there's water covering all of it. But there's always that puddle here and there. It's usually algae but I have convinced myself to have walked in shit. There's tunnels along the way but there too small for a person and you'd have to be a retard to go in there. and the other ones are fenced in.
But the canal is cool cos it takes you all throughout the city finally ending at the river.
Tunnel rats eat raw sewage. |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 5 on 9/10/2003 9:52 PM >
|  | | | Bah, Jester's got no experience in the matter. He's only been draining once, and he didn't get along with gravity very well. 
Do be careful that there is enough oxygen and whatnot, but go ahead and venture in. If it's part or close to an open-air canal, you should have plenty of fresh air. I've been in sewers with no known source of fresh air (not for a long long ways anyhow) and been fine. It smells kind of raunchy, and I wouldn't want to make skin contact with raw sewage or breathe too much of the liquid particles suspended in the air, but it is definitely doable.
Read through the Minneapolis Drain Archives. many of the tunnels they talk about are actually sewers. They popped a manhole and slid several blocks down a sloped sewer tunnel only to eventually fall into the main sewer collector tunnel for all of minneapolis and the north suburbs. Some of them encountered spells of vomiting after breathing too much airborne liquid.
Here's Java in an active sewer tunnel under downtown St. Paul, MN. Look at my avatar. That picture was taken about a block from there. Heck, here's a bunch of pictures from that area:
[Edit: pictures removed. I'm too lazy to upload them and they're not in a public part of my website, so hassle me if you want to see them.]
As strange as it sounds, I kind of liked it down there. the architecture was really slick and you can't find that kind of atmosphere anywhere else (hehe).
edit: removed the pictures that were broken anyways
[last edit 10/4/2003 10:59 PM by MacGyver - edited 1 times]
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 6 on 9/10/2003 9:56 PM >
| | | | Well, that makes sense. Krazy knows far more about this than I.
When you think of human waste, think of Krazy.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 7 on 9/10/2003 10:47 PM >
| | | | lol! I'm glad I'm useful for something
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Macsbug
Noble Donor
Location: St. Paul, MN
Gender: Male
Safety First!
| |  | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 8 on 9/10/2003 11:01 PM >
| | | | I read a story in a St. Paul/Minneapolis magazine (citypages I think) that talked about a guy who would explore and map sanitory sewer tunnels. He would just have hip-waders, and maby a gas detector, but he has always been fine... he says he has been sick for a couple days afterwords sometimes, but no lasting effects...
Has anyone here from MSP been into shieks cave, through NMT? other ways? It is mentioned in the citypages, and minneapolis drain archives, but I have not read about it on any recently updated sites.
"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 9 on 9/11/2003 1:36 AM >
| | | | Nope. Shiek's still remains elusive. I would like to find my way there some day, but I don't know if that will ever happen. Nobody that I know has been there since Greg and Peter.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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Ben
Noble Donor
Location: Mojave Desert
Gender: Male
| | | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 10 on 9/11/2003 2:48 AM >
| | | | The Action Squad hit it, didn't they?
I did Nicollet Island with Greg Brick, and that cave was one of the things we talked about. If it's still the way he described it, I wouldn't ever do it. Shoe deep is one thing, but if you're up to your tits in shit, you're just too hard core of a caver.
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: CSO'S.
<Reply # 11 on 9/11/2003 3:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by Wikkit
The Action Squad hit it, didn't they?
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Not that I know of. I would have heard about it from Max if they had. I think that much sewage is a bit much for even max action.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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