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UER Forum > Archived Old Forum Issues > Moderator requirements (Viewed 355 times) fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Moderator requirements < on 8/15/2005 1:25 AM >   Just like a new user has to earn their keep to be a Full member, I'd like to see some sort of basic requirement that the moderator acceptance process include the contribution of at least one location to the location database. That way, a mod would take seriously and hold a more vested interest in the site they are moderating. Of course, many of the mods here already contribute but still some straggler mods do not. 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! Avatar-X  Alpha Husky Location: West Coast Gender: Male yay!  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 1 on 8/15/2005 1:47 AM >   I do not judge a moderator's abilities or value by whether or not they contribute to the location database. -av huskies - such fluff. DjMalign  Location: Fort Collins, CO Gender: Male Sexy, sexy, sexy  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 2 on 8/15/2005 2:31 AM >   fedge is so awesome. he's so obsessed with jester. i bet he has a shrine I hate all of you TurboZutek  King Dick Location: Scotland Gender: Male Giant octo-penised rapephant  |  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 3 on 8/15/2005 2:54 AM >   Well, if we want cold hard facts, Jester did in fact post a location to the LDB! It was awesome - so good in fact I visited it and posted a gallery of my own. He later took it down though, as it was deemed to secret to allow just anyone to see (this was before Level 3 came into play). Older members of UER will know exactly what I'm talking about! So, fedge... If you are referring to Jester: he did a while ago. Chris... We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. kowalski   |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 4 on 8/15/2005 4:19 AM >   Some of the mods have been here a lot longer than you have, fedge, and don't see the location database as constituting the core of what this site is or should be about. If anything, your motley collection of authored locations are as good an argument as any for why the ldb SHOULD NOT be the core component of UER. It's also notable that the task of moderating the database is not a responsibility that most of the mods are expected to perform, which is good since most of us aren't interested in doing so. Finally, it's particularly notable that Jester has been one of the most consistently active, involved and effective moderators over almost the entire lifetime of this site. We've been lucky to have someone in this position that has both such stamina for what is a tiresome and uncompelling job *and* done some really interesting exploring over the years in a relatively difficult, risk-intensive environment for the hobby. fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 5 on 8/15/2005 4:52 AM >   Posted by kowalski the ldb SHOULD NOT be the core component of UER. Well, without the LDB then UER would turn into Deggi5. Posted by kowalski It's also notable that the task of moderating the database is not a responsibility that most of the mods are expected to perform, which is good since most of us aren't interested in doing so. Then for the love of fuck, resign from the position! Posted by kowalski Finally, it's particularly notable that Jester has been one of the most consistently active <snipped for bullshit>... He's clearly a humanitarian in the league of Ghandi. There's no disputing he is a great man. Perhaps his considerable "talents" for taking blurry photographs of generic empty rooms could be better used elsewhere, freeing up a UER mod spot for someone else. 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! Jester  Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight...  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 6 on 8/15/2005 5:28 AM >   Posted by fedge Well, without the LDB then UER would turn into Deggi5. Actually, before the LDB, uer was doing very well. In fact a good number of very veteran explorers (you wouldn't understand Fedge) feel it was better then. Posted by fedge Then for the love of fuck, resign from the position! Moderators moderate the forum, certain ones volunteer to do the LDB primarily. The two do not need to overlap. Posted by fedge He's clearly a humanitarian in the league of Ghandi. There's no disputing he is a great man. Posted by DjMalign fedge is so awesome. he's so obsessed with jester. i bet he has a shrine It would appear so. Haven't had anybody quite so obsessed since that groupie that was sending me all sorts of naked pics and offering to do various sexual favours if I took her into an asylum here. [last edit 8/15/2005 5:28 AM by Jester - edited 1 times] It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. kowalski   |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 7 on 8/15/2005 5:33 AM >   Posted by fedge Then for the love of fuck, resign from the position! There are two (?) moderators assigned to the database. We forum mods don't even have moderation powers over most of the database content. The rest of your response lacks even the minimum quotient of rationality necessary to oxygenate discussion. How am I supposed to respond to the incomprehensible, undeveloped and completely acausal assertion that without the database "UER would turn into Deggi5"? Every time you start this sort of shit again you turn yourself into more of a joke, fedge. It's baffling that I once seriously considered and left the door open to the possibility that you might spin yourself and the exploring that you do into something interesting and relevant if given enough time. It's even more baffling that your profile says that you're apparently thirty-six, since in the past month or so you've done a fine job of besting by a mile PhatRat's performance a couple years ago in the role of obnoxious, maladjusted teenager. Rather than wasting your time (and the time of everyone around you here) continuing this trite stupidity, why don't you do something considered and thoughtful and productive? Why don't you go back over the countless houses strung across 905 country that you've taken a look inside and tell us something interesting about them? Why don't you put two and two together and draw some constructive observations out of the collection? Why don't you spend some time telling us what they all mean to you and what exploring them all as a pile reveals and feels like? Why don't you add some value, some identity to what are a whole lot of rather unremarkable photos of the depreciated structures and orphaned possessions that once held people and lives that were remarkable if often marginal and underrecognized by everyone around them? Because your entries as they stand right now illustrate exactly what's wrong with the database as a whole, they are among the purest isolates of a syndrome that affects almost everything in there. They fail to tell us anything at all, they're a bunch of crappy tourist snapshots of Disneyland and beaches and hotel rooms handed to a friend or coworker without further narration, except that they're of abandoned houses and commercial structures. They're meaningless to everyone except for you, and in their presence and ubiquity in the database, in similar though perhaps sometimes less marked form, they bleach and discourage meaning in everything else that goes on here. So yes, the only response I can give to a post like the one you just made is to ask you to go do something useful for a change. For yourself, and for all of us. Thank you. [last edit 8/15/2005 5:36 AM by kowalski - edited 4 times] Stewie  Location: Hamilton, Ontario Gender: Male kill your idols  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 8 on 8/15/2005 5:41 AM >   Posted by kowalski It's even more baffling that your profile says that you're apparently thirty-six, since in the past month or so you've done a fine job of besting by a mile PhatRat's performance a couple years ago in the role of obnoxious, maladjusted teenager. Yar... you don't like me very much. I could tell right from the subject and the poster that this was another Jester bash-a-thon. Honestly fedge, give it up. For a long time I thought the same of Jester, I thought he was just some egotistical ethics preacher... I learned otherwise. I did some research into what he has done for the hobby and thought that just maybe he was right about some of the things he said. Since then I've tried to become a more mature and ethical explorer. Its really hard to get people to forget a track record like mine but I keep trying to better myself and hope that someone will recognize this accomplishment. I think age had a lot to do with it too [last edit 8/15/2005 5:42 AM by Stewie - edited 1 times] > The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 9 on 8/15/2005 6:13 AM >   I know, Particle Man - he has done an exceptional job in the UE field. He has considerable dedication and talent. I'm positive were we to meet that we'd be good friends. I just don't think it's a moderator's job to lob insults or demean those with whom he is charged with moderating. I told Jester I'd be more than willing to make up but he is continuing the negativity over on Deggi5. In order to satisfy Jester and those that feel my LDB efforts aren't worthy, I've stopped posting to the LDB. I've asked Av to have all my LDB entries removed as well so that server space can be allocated to other, more deserving LDB entries. I am pleased, however, that my brief ten word response which "lacks even the minimum quotient of rationality necessary to oxygenate discussion", spurred kowalski to write a novel's worth of rebuttal. [last edit 8/15/2005 12:34 PM by Avatar-X - edited 2 times] 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! Avatar-X  Alpha Husky Location: West Coast Gender: Male yay!  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 10 on 8/15/2005 12:35 PM >   I've restored fedge's post. -av huskies - such fluff. kowalski   |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 11 on 8/15/2005 1:57 PM >   Posted by fedge I've stopped posting to the LDB. I've asked Av to have all my LDB entries removed as well so that server space can be allocated to other, more deserving LDB entries. For such an act of valorous Attention-Grabbing and Masturbatory Martyrdom, I'll be sure to recommend you for the Victoria Cross. Thanks for ignoring the constructive, progressive suggestions I gave you. I'm not celebrating anything here, since my interest was not in ending your participation in the database but in spurring you to do more with what you've contributed to it and with the places you explore. If you don't want to listen, that's a shame. If you're just going to do this schizoid, "look at me, the hounded victim" thing, then to each his own, but I think at this moment, even in this forum, everybody sees right through that schtick. It is frustrating, though, to say in different words "If you tell me something interesting about these places, I'll be your biggest fan," and then watch you come back and throw gasoline all over yourself and set yourself on fire. Because that's not interesting at all, it's really just pitiable. [last edit 8/15/2005 1:58 PM by kowalski - edited 1 times] Chuck  Location: Chicago Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 12 on 8/15/2005 2:57 PM >   Posted by Jester Actually, before the LDB, uer was doing very well. In fact a good number of very veteran explorers (you wouldn't understand Fedge) feel it was better then. Jester, you have seen the light! Wow, Fedge, what is your deal? Thanks for coming along though.... I no longer look like the asshole on UER!! At least my posts were done with Urban Exploring's best interest in mind!! Chuck Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands. - Clint Eastwood Jester  Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight...  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 13 on 8/15/2005 3:09 PM >   Posted by fedge In order to satisfy Jester and those that feel my LDB efforts aren't worthy, I've stopped posting to the LDB. I've asked Av to have all my LDB entries removed as well so that server space can be allocated to other, more deserving LDB entries. That's your solution ? Kowlaski gives good, well thought out and elegantly expressed ideas, and you instead just decide to give up ? It doesn't matter if I like your entries in the ldb, it's just my opinion. Why that seems to mean so much to you, while you have claimed the opposite, is beyond me. It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. -MisfitStyle-   |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 14 on 8/15/2005 3:09 PM >   Posted by Chuck Jester, you have seen the light! Wow, Fedge, what is your deal? Thanks for coming along though.... I no longer look like the asshole on UER!! At least my posts were done with Urban Exploring's best interest in mind!! Chuck No, your posts were done with trolling in mind. "I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window." Need help? Please use the Contact a Mod forum — I'm slow to see PMs. Chuck  Location: Chicago Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 15 on 8/15/2005 3:24 PM >   Posted by -MisfitStyle- No, your posts were done with trolling in mind. If that's what you think than more power to you. Chuck Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands. - Clint Eastwood kowalski   |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 16 on 8/15/2005 4:04 PM >   Posted by Chuck If that's what you think than more power to you. Actually, that's what I think too, what you're doing in this thread and elsewhere is lazy and unconstructive. Chuck  Location: Chicago Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Moderator requirements <Reply # 17 on 8/15/2005 4:12 PM >   Posted by kowalski Actually, that's what I think too, what you're doing in this thread and elsewhere is lazy and unconstructive. If that's what you think than more power to you. Chuck [Why don't all you guys go play outside for a while? This is dumb. - Servo] [last edit 8/16/2005 6:03 AM by Servo - edited 1 times] Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands. - Clint Eastwood UER Forum > Archived Old Forum Issues > Moderator requirements (Viewed 355 times) All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 171 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 741612248 pages have been generated.