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 Freak
     
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
 |  |  | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 60 on 7/5/2005 10:31 PM >
|  | | | Personally I agree with a number of Kowalski's points. Unfortunately neither K nor Av seem to be able to take constructive criticism well, or give it without being condescending.
Also, I find it interesting that Av promotes MySite as being easier to create and use than a normal website, but then complains about frontpage and yahoo sites being too simple...
I currently run neglect 5 sites, including two SQL databases using PHP to run such things as an alumni database and a dynamic guestbook. So far all I've had to pay for is domain name registration, and I've never had a problem with bandwidth or long outages on any of them. (Admittedly one of these sites and both databases are on a University server, and I have no idea when the admin will realize I've graduated and kill my account  )
As was mentioned, there are plenty of explorers offering hosting, currently my UE site is hosted through Tux's minimanga server. Previous to that I used a free service with blockable banner ads, after that went belly up I found numerous hosts which would meet the requirements of a medium size UE site for around $30-50 / year. Many reputable ISPs will offer site hosting with their standard fee, although this isn't too useful if you want to remain anonymous.
MySite could be great for the beginning explorer who's too lazy to download frontpage, but there are plenty of other options out there for anyone who wants a unique design and more flexibility.
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
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el nerdo
     
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 61 on 7/6/2005 12:40 AM >
| | | | At first, I didn't quite get what "MySite" was. Then I read through all the comments in this thread. I get it now. I think it's a fine idea for users to showcase their photos without having to deep link into forums. Great for people who just want something simple to link to, and to showcase things the way they want.
To all the naysayers and doomsday preachers: don't use it.
And to you two-faced bastards whose pictures you'll see in the dictionary under "subversive", why don't you just go away, go play on Deggi5 and leave everyone here alone? You know who you are.
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Louie
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 62 on 7/6/2005 2:42 AM >
| | | | Is it just me, or does "MySite" sound a little too much like Myspace, the most annoying community website ever?
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Ruck
Location: Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 63 on 7/6/2005 2:06 PM >
| | | | Alas, I am but a lowly level two user, and thus am denied access to this wonderous bounty of the admins.
Oh well... *sigh*...tomorrow is a new day.
[last edit 7/7/2005 2:46 AM by Ruck - edited 1 times]
"For the listener, who listens in the snow, And, nothing himself, beholds Nothing that is not there and the nothing that is." ~Wallace Stevens |
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Scaggs
Gender: Male
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 64 on 7/7/2005 12:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by el nerdo
At first, I didn't quite get what "MySite" was. Then I read through all the comments in this thread. I get it now. I think it's a fine idea for users to showcase their photos without having to deep link into forums. Great for people who just want something simple to link to, and to showcase things the way they want.
To all the naysayers and doomsday preachers: don't use it.
And to you two-faced bastards whose pictures you'll see in the dictionary under "subversive", why don't you just go away, go play on Deggi5 and leave everyone here alone? You know who you are.
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Nerdo, everyone is already on D5. Including most of the mods. You're the only one left, bro.
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 65 on 7/7/2005 1:07 AM >
| | | | This seems like a jolly good feature to me for one thing when I have free time I would like to use it exploring and photographing not maintaining programming and coding, hell I can barely type.
thanks for the cool feature!
I only have one concern. Too many details are going to wind up being viewable. Call me paranoid if you like but some of the publically viewable content already makes me cringe.
[last edit 7/7/2005 1:09 AM by Explorer Zero - edited 1 times]
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Syd
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| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 66 on 7/7/2005 1:28 AM >
| | | | AV, Do you have any concern over server space being wasted by half completed pages? You know the kids today dont have the attention span to finish what they start.
There are those that have sites and wont take up your space and/or bandwidth that are more dedicated to maintaining a site rather then just posting things willy-nilly and then lose interest in it.
Does having all these mini-sites under the UER umbrella make them your property then as well?
Why does it only have to be a level 3 feature? Do you think that will cut down on the less serious people from participating?
The Germans killed the Jews and the Jews killed the Arabs and the Arabs killed the hostages and that is the news. Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?
www.northville-tunnels.com |
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Sinister Crayon
Location: Colorado
Gender: Male
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 67 on 7/7/2005 1:33 AM >
| | | | Posted by Syd
AV, Do you have any concern over server space being wasted by half completed pages? You know the kids today dont have the attention span to finish what they start.
There are those that have sites and wont take up your space and/or bandwidth that are more dedicated to maintaining a site rather then just posting things willy-nilly and then lose interest in it.
Does having all these mini-sites under the UER umbrella make them your property then as well?
Why does it only have to be a level 3 feature? Do you think that will cut down on the less serious people from participating?
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All the images on the personal pages are either hosted in the LDB, the Forums, or on an offsite server... and text isn't really that much.... it's like the journals...
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 68 on 7/7/2005 1:34 AM >
| | | | Pages take up almost no room on the server, so there could be millions of them without wasting space.
Abandoned MySites that are unfinished can be deleted if the owner is no longer interested in them.
Those who have their own sites hosted elsewhere are encouraged to continue doing so. This is not a replacement for existing sites.
I do not own the content uploaded to UER by it's members. The sites can be removed by the members at any time.
It's Level-3 only for two reasons: Yes, it will help to cut down on the riff-raff. In theory, Level-2 is supposed to be a "stepping stone" for members of this site, hoping that all explorers serious enough to have a UE website will be Level-3 or soon be Level-3 members.
Secondly, the MySite is directly linked with content you've contributed to the LDB. Level-2 members don't have access to the LDB.
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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Syd
This member has been banned.
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 69 on 7/7/2005 1:37 AM >
| | | | Sounds like you have this well thought out.
The Germans killed the Jews and the Jews killed the Arabs and the Arabs killed the hostages and that is the news. Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?
www.northville-tunnels.com |
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el nerdo
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 70 on 7/7/2005 3:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by abandonedsc
Nerdo, everyone is already on D5. Including most of the mods. You're the only one left, bro.
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I don't bother with D5 because my new job, home and wife all demand more time than I can devote to spending on the web.
I do explore the odd place still, though.
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TaP
Location: Montreal, QC
Gender: Male
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 71 on 7/7/2005 3:16 AM >
| | | | Uer is way better, final!
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 72 on 7/7/2005 4:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by [TaP]
Uer is way better, final!
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This is not the place for a UER vs d5 argument.
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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cjb
Location: Sept-îles/Saint-John's/Corner Brooks/Montréal/Sydney
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 73 on 7/7/2005 5:04 AM >
| | | | The public forums on UER are becoming a pain in the neck!
I have to agree with kowalski, In the past 2 years this place has changed for the worse. There hasn't been anything new happening in the quebec boards for weeks, as well as the Canada Other. Maybe there is a strong online UE community around Toronto that keeps the Ontario board alive, but in most other regional boards, the lack of interesting stuff posted has dropped 90%.Barely no one is active, The level-3 system has successfully killed the user-base. This site is slowly dying, unfortunately, and it will in the best scenario become some kind of Toronto regional site.
http://www.magazin...dossiers/index.htm |
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Ninjalicious
Gone, but always with us
Location: Toronto
| | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 74 on 7/7/2005 2:14 PM >
|  | | | I don't like this new feature for the same reason I didn't like the journals feature.... I don't like to see people encouraged to funnel their creative energy through the UER filter instead of directly into their own projects.
It really is very easy and cheap to set up a decent website these days - no debate needed on that point.
As for whether this is the supreme evil that will forever ruin UER (or further prove that is is already ruined), I think that's going a bit too far. It's just another feature that some people like and some people don't.
Ninj
http://www.infiltration.org
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
| |  | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 75 on 7/8/2005 12:08 AM >
| | | | You know I could really could care less about this feature , the same way I felt about the journal thing;
But Christ, why is the peanut gallery beating the shit out of AV for just coming up with an idea , throwing it out there, and seeing what sticks? If it isn't popular, it goes away? Big deal.
"It's another step toward homogenizing online UE"
"the guy is on a power trip"
E.t.c., e.t.c.,
Get real, the site has always been good to look at and he spends a shitload of time modifying it; If I knew what the hell I was doing (it took my 64 yo dad telling me that TAB takes you to the next box in a form) , I'd probably try some new things as well, it doesn't mean "UE is dead as we know it"
And on that topic; if the internet is all Exploring is about, then it's time to break out the Kiwi, polish up the Magnums, and hang 'em up; you spend too much time on the computer. I know Av get's out alot , yet he still finds the time to devote to fucking around with UER.
You know, the best times I had exploring were when I was pissed about some jackass regulations regarding the LDB (that went away) got pissed off, and spent three months living my life and not staring at a computer screen; During that time I had fun, found a lot of places I never even knew existed, and spent time with people I cared about .
Summary; Av is providing a medium; don't blame the guy for offering services he dreamed up with no ill intent, and finally; call me an ass kisser if you will; but the real lesson here is that more people should stop staring at the goddamn computer all day, and yes, right now I'm guilty.
Jump into reality you freaks.
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
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nobody
Location: VANCOUVER B.C.
Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 76 on 7/8/2005 12:35 AM >
|  | | | I think Mysite sounds good. I am pretty new here and I am starting to get a grip on some of the past issues/politics. While I see and appreciate all of the opinions and input that is present, I would still enjoy an opportunity to express myself in that way. It seems like it is great way to feel some ownership of your own explorations within a setting that you ( I ) am comfortable with.Peace, N.
Operating Entirely With Bad Intentions |
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Agent Skelly
Web Sheriff
Location: Oregon Territory
Gender: Male
Prenez De L'Avance Avec Chrysler!
| |  | | | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 77 on 7/8/2005 12:36 AM >
| | | | 'Dukes is right. I think most people DO forget that UER is a medium to help the world of urban exploration with its hobby. Its not some sort of hobby with a dictatorship that Av is the king of. Heck, even there is no Ham Radio king!
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rz350
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: toronto
Gender: Male
The looniest, zaniest, spontaneous, sporadic Impulsive thinker, compulsive drinker, addict
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 78 on 7/9/2005 1:38 AM >
| | | | Im thinking, that with all the talk about everyone making your website they want should/would/could/want whatever..that Av is doing that to his website. UER is Av's website and hes adding the features/content/ect he wants on it. Just like all you people are bitching about. Like hypocrits. I think its a cool feature, a nice quick and easy place to toss a few pictures up on.
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the farge
Location: NDG
Gender: Male
| | Re: Introducing a new feature: MySite
<Reply # 79 on 7/9/2005 1:41 AM >
| | | | Posted by 'Dukes
You know I could really could care less about this feature , the same way I felt about the journal thing;
But Christ, why is the peanut gallery beating the shit out of AV for just coming up with an idea , throwing it out there, and seeing what sticks? If it isn't popular, it goes away? Big deal.
"It's another step toward homogenizing online UE"
"the guy is on a power trip"
E.t.c., e.t.c.,
Get real, the site has always been good to look at and he spends a shitload of time modifying it; If I knew what the hell I was doing (it took my 64 yo dad telling me that TAB takes you to the next box in a form) , I'd probably try some new things as well, it doesn't mean "UE is dead as we know it"
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Right on Dukes, you've spared me a lot of typing.
I'm sure there are quite a few people out there like me, who know fark-all about phps and mysquirrels and whatnot but just enjoy exploring and getting the opportunity to see places far from home, while contributing a little bit to the community and exchanging with its members.
Call me unoriginal or whatever, but operating my own ue website is not at the top of my priorities list at this point in my life. Mysite just seems like an opportunity for people who have the interest but not necesserily the time or the means to make their own site (simple as it may be) and who want to stay part of this huge community. I personally won't bother entering my pics into a Mysite because I happen to like the look and feel of uer as it is, but I could understand others not liking it as much. Mysite would be another option for these people, a facilitator to artistic expression.
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