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1 2   UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Getting past Barbed wire... (Viewed 904 times) JustiN   |  Getting past Barbed wire... < on 3/14/2005 2:43 AM >   I was just curious if there was any easy way to get around fences with barbed wire, or razor wire? sephatista  Location: Colorado  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 1 on 3/14/2005 3:04 AM >   carpet, wire cutters, find another way. JustiN   |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 2 on 3/14/2005 3:07 AM >   Any ways that dont involve destroying it... besides carpet... Servo   |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 3 on 3/14/2005 3:22 AM >   95% of the time there's gonna be a way over or under it. More info on the specific situation would help. Bobtheallmighty  Location: Somewhere over london, Ontario Gender: Male gotta climb.  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 4 on 3/14/2005 3:31 AM >   sometimes if you just walk the fence you can find an area were the barbed wire has been torn down by someone else. also if its a realy crappy fence sometimes you can go right under it. -bob " <Samurai> you know, we aren't as far removed from animals as we'd like to think... i still have bowel movements that border on mystical... i mean almost orgasmic" Archer  Location: Toronto, ON Gender: Male Imperator Sagittario  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 5 on 3/14/2005 3:42 AM >   Dig a hole in a spot where no one will see you. It can be quite effective, unless the fence happenns to be sitting on something other than dirt. Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com "We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." Mark  Very Noble Donor Location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 6 on 3/14/2005 4:45 AM >   I took some time in my younger years learning to climb barbed wire with ease. It ment I didnt have just one egress point. That being said it can be pretty tricky. What kind of bared wire? C-wire, straight strand, or razor wire? "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" salt  Location: winta hill, in sommaville Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 7 on 3/14/2005 5:06 AM >   I know this doesnt apply to getting by razor wire, however it is a interesting tidbit of info. These days, alot of fences that have razor/concertina wire, are strapped too 2 diffrent types of collapsable fences. The first half of the fence is regular but the second have is unclimbable, it works kind of like a chinese finger trap, tiny wire holes which close(tighten) around your fingers, the fence is also attached to the poles with a rather flimsy plastic lock, so any attempt to climb and you wind up flat on your ass with a huge portion of fence hanging down from the rest and attached to your fingers. The other type is the same exact fence i just described however the pole attachers are normal so the fence does not fall from the poles, the finger trapping part of the fence is sharpened so instead of you falling attached to the fence, you fall with the tips of your fingers amputated(cut off) or severely cut!!. The latter fence is usually used in jails where they want to keep people in, and the first fence is used where they want to keep people out but be able to catch them, both can be equipt with all sorts of motion/microwave/ and sensors to detect if the fence has falling or moved. This could be the wave of the future challenges for us uer's. Archer  Location: Toronto, ON Gender: Male Imperator Sagittario  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 8 on 3/14/2005 5:13 AM >   Neither of those sound pleasent. At all. Just one more thing to worry about. =\ Mark... mind posting the differences in the various types of barbed wire? Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com "We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." TheRev  Location: Ohio Gender: Male We go in like professionals, like Charles Bronson...  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 9 on 3/14/2005 5:23 AM >   I may be incorrect in the application of the law, but it seems that the fence that amputates your fingers could be classified as a "booby trap" and would therefore be illegal for non-governmental use. Granted someone will probably have to lose their fingers and take the issue to court (I'm not volunteering for that one) but I would think this won't be of too great a danger for almost all missions. In my experience one of the best ways to bypass barbed wire, if the fence must be climbed, is to do it at a corner. There you have a sturdier handhold and often the typical three-strands-of-barbed-wire-angled-over-the-fence is just held along the post, making it easier to get around. Often corners are more visible, both to people outside the facility and within, so there are definite pros and cons to be weighed. Also, depending on how abandoned (if it is) the site is, you may be able to find a tree on the other side of the fence, so you can climb up the fence until you reach the tree, and pull yourself up into the tree to get over the wire. I hope that description makes sense, that tactic has gotten me by a couple times. You could also just wear a couple pairs of gloves, pants you don't care that much about, and go for it. salt  Location: winta hill, in sommaville Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 10 on 3/14/2005 5:32 AM >   Posted by TheRev I may be incorrect in the application of the law, but it seems that the fence that amputates your fingers could be classified as a "booby trap" and would therefore be illegal for non-governmental use. Granted someone will probably have to lose their fingers and take the issue to court (I'm not volunteering for that one) but I would think this won't be of too great a danger for almost all missions. You could also just wear a couple pairs of gloves, pants you don't care that much about, and go for it. yea, i thought that it sounded strange to until i saw them everyday for months out my cell window, the do have warning attached to the fence, however they dont say much about the finger cutting part they say something like, 'danger this fence will cause severe bodily harm if attempt to climb' and new razor wire will go right thru several layers of gloves and pants, old wont, i recently saw the aftermath of someone attempting to climb a razor wire fence with around 10 sets of coveralls and a ton of gloves made from heavy wool blankets reinforced with newspapers throughout his whole body, i didnt witness the attempted climb but i saw how much blood he was covered in from hands all the way down the body and legs, so be careful for anyone who attempts to climb rather new razor wire edit- spell [last edit 3/14/2005 5:35 AM by salt - edited 2 times] TheRev  Location: Ohio Gender: Male We go in like professionals, like Charles Bronson...  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 11 on 3/14/2005 5:36 AM >   Yeah, I should've prefaced by saying that all my suggestions were for more run-of-the-mill fences, not anything like a prison fence. salt  Location: winta hill, in sommaville Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 12 on 3/14/2005 5:38 AM >   lol, deffinatly. But it is a cool tidbit of info incase anyone ever runs into these fences. lol I really really hope no one from uer ever trys to live infiltrate a prison or jail.lol. Elshar  Location: MN/NY Gender: Male  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 13 on 3/14/2005 6:55 PM >   I don't think I've ever had to actually climb a barb wire fence, so could someone explain to me the difference between razor wire and barbed wire? Is razor wire sharp along its entire length, not just at certain points? Servo   |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 14 on 3/14/2005 7:06 PM >   Razor wire: Barbed wire: Barbed wire is generally nothing more than a nuisance at best. Razor wire, especially newer razor wire, will fuck you up bad though. [last edit 3/14/2005 7:12 PM by Servo - edited 2 times] TheRev  Location: Ohio Gender: Male We go in like professionals, like Charles Bronson...  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 15 on 3/14/2005 7:29 PM >   Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that barbed wire is what most people are use to, typically a strand of wire with sharpened points sticking out every 4 or so inches ( http://www.pube.or.../Barbed%20Wire.jpg ). Razor wire is generally installed in a loose spiral along the top of a fence, and there are thin sharpened metal "razors" with points going up and down in the wire. This is a lot sharper and meaner than barbed wire as it slices instead of stabs, and the circular deployment is a bit tougher to get over. ( http://www.rachell...r_wire_800x600.jpg ) Concertina wire is similar to razor wire, but the blades are generally smaller and closer together, and are deployed in large spirals, often on the ground or on the sides of fences. It's designed to not only cut the crap out of you, but also get you entangled in the wire. Concertina wire is mostly used by the military, so chances are if you're dealing with it, you've got plenty of other worries as well. ( http://www.defense...9-F-2352G-0021.jpg ) Barbed wire is pretty easy to deal with, the spaces between barbs are generally wide enough to fit a hand or foot between, the wire is tight enough to get a good hold on it, and even if it gets you the cuts aren't that deep. I generally avoid razor wire, it can be pushed around a bit if you have gloves and you're really careful, but it's no fun. I don't have any experience with concertina wire, but I'm guessing it's a pain in the ass. But, like Servo said, there's often some better way around if you look enough, a hole under the fence or open gate (gates often don't have wire on top, but of course are often guarded). Edit: dammit, Servo beat me to the punch. Edit 2: oh, I wouldn't suggest trying to put a foot onto barbed wire unless it's on a fence low enough you'd feel comfortable jumping from (or, depending on the condition of the wire, falling from). Some people may be not so comfortable with this manuever, and you may end up on the inside of a fence while everyone you're with decides maybe it's not such a good idea, then they find an easier way in that makes you look like a dumbass, not that that happened to me the other weekend or anything. [last edit 3/14/2005 7:42 PM by TheRev - edited 2 times] Servo   |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 16 on 3/14/2005 8:19 PM >   Posted by TheRev Edit 2: oh, I wouldn't suggest trying to put a foot onto barbed wire unless it's on a fence low enough you'd feel comfortable jumping from (or, depending on the condition of the wire, falling from). Some people may be not so comfortable with this manuever, and you may end up on the inside of a fence while everyone you're with decides maybe it's not such a good idea, then they find an easier way in that makes you look like a dumbass, not that that happened to me the other weekend or anything. But dude, that's totally what Charles Bronson would have done. Or maybe he would have just blown a hole in the fence... Actually kids, that is a good lesson... on the way back out, turned out we were all dumbasses because there was dry stream bed where you could damn near walk under the fence. So again, 95% of the time, you won't *need* to go over it. Plytheman  Location: Lawrence, Massachusetts Obey The Deer  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 17 on 3/14/2005 10:30 PM >   Barbed wire can be take off the fence if need be. Depending on how much time you have and how old it is, the wire can actually slip right off the bar holding it up there, its only resting in those little notches. Like I said, it takes some time but it wont destroy the fence, just move it around a bit. Its really not that hard, though. If the gate is unguarded thats an easy way up, because theres often chains running across the gate holding it closed that can be used to climb on. If not a gate find a corner post. Lastly, just grab onto the wire and test out how taut it is. Its usually easy enough to just grab hold of it and work around it, just be careful with your balance. I'm achin, I'm shakin, I'm breakin, Like Humans Do!! -Byrne HairyTheTaco  Location: The Hammer, Ontario Gender: Male  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 18 on 3/14/2005 11:51 PM >   Posted by salt I know this doesnt apply to getting by razor wire, however it is a interesting tidbit of info. These days, alot of fences that have razor/concertina wire, are strapped too 2 diffrent types of collapsable fences. The first half of the fence is regular but the second have is unclimbable, it works kind of like a chinese finger trap, tiny wire holes which close(tighten) around your fingers, the fence is also attached to the poles with a rather flimsy plastic lock, so any attempt to climb and you wind up flat on your ass with a huge portion of fence hanging down from the rest and attached to your fingers. The other type is the same exact fence i just described however the pole attachers are normal so the fence does not fall from the poles, the finger trapping part of the fence is sharpened so instead of you falling attached to the fence, you fall with the tips of your fingers amputated(cut off) or severely cut!!. The latter fence is usually used in jails where they want to keep people in, and the first fence is used where they want to keep people out but be able to catch them, both can be equipt with all sorts of motion/microwave/ and sensors to detect if the fence has falling or moved. This could be the wave of the future challenges for us uer's. Anyone have a picture of this type of fence? 'Dukes  Noble Donor Gender: Male At least someone llikes me  |  |  Re: Getting past Barbed wire... <Reply # 19 on 3/15/2005 2:55 AM >   Throw a blanket over it ; or tough it out. Any jerk could figure this much out. Didn't you just ask what UE was all about? Then why are you asking about this? I'm calling no joy on this balloonhead; I smell something. For that matter why are the mods volunteering info? Makes no sense to me. I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Getting past Barbed wire... 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