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1 2 3  UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Disarm Fire Alarms (Viewed 1519 times) cookiesnporn   |  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 40 on 1/26/2005 2:41 AM >   whats the point, unless its an active building? in which case, its not a good idea to be in there at all, now is it? This man has a headahce! GIVE HIM AN ENEMA! Abandoned | Starting a revolution, exploring the forgotten. BlueStreak  Location: Orlando, FL Gender: Male  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 41 on 1/27/2005 6:16 PM >   Just a couple of notes. I am also a former firefighter, and my current job requires me to work with fire and security alarm systems including hundreds of secure access doors. An alarmed door will never been hooked up to the fire alarm system. A fire alarm will not sound by simply walking through a door. This falls under the security alarm and as posted before, only called fire door or fire exit because its intended use is for emergencies. Now, 90% of the time in an active building you will see a "pull station" next to one of these doors. That is for activiating the fire alarm should be you be fleeing for that reason. Gives the person an oportunity to alert the fire department on their way out the door. As Shane said, his little alarm and run thing would probably work pretty well. In most cases it will only get a response from building security or maintenence unless it's wired into the burglar alarm system (If you're setting the alarm off from outside the building), in which case you'll get a police response. In doing this though, be careful of camares on either side of the door. Many modern security systems will activate a camera on the spot automatically once the alarm is received, and either record your entry/exit and/or bring it up on a screen for security to watch you sneaking around. Even if a camera is not looking in that direction it can be programmed to automatically zip to a view of the door within a second of the alarm sounding. I've gone through doors before just to have a camera on the other side looking right at me. Talk about deer in the headlights! And yes, there is a 50/50 chance (depending on where/what kind of building you're in) that the "Emergency Exit Only - Alarm Will Sound" sign is just a bluff, but of course you never know till you open the door. The bluff is more common than you think... Shane, maybe you can rename the thread to prevent any further confusion? Blue Facebook: Florida Adventure Group greywolf45  Location: U.S.A. Gender: Male Resident UER pain in the ass  |  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 42 on 3/19/2005 7:16 AM >   Personally, i wouldn't fuck with them. If you disable one, and someone forgets to enable it when you leave, and a fire starts, hurting, or killing someone, they might start looking for the person responsible for the deed. "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King Jr. Ninjalicious  Gone, but always with us Location: Toronto  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 43 on 3/19/2005 5:11 PM >   I go through doors marked "alarm will sound" fairly frequently, usually after watching employees and other regulars do the same with no effect. Shane's right, it's very common for them to be lying, disconnected or out of batteries. Ninj http://www.infiltration.org junkyard  Location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat.  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 44 on 3/19/2005 5:36 PM >   I'd have to say from what I know of Shane, he's pays attention to every detail. I was very impressed with his plan for a place in FL, had every detail worked out. As it turns out not many people came, but he researched the place extensively and took the time to get a foolproof plan together. I wouldn't expect that any of his other explorations are anything less. He knows what he's talking about. I'd follow him into hell and back. I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner! Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite. Strategic Beer Command ruling the desert since 1995 http://www.strategic-beer-command.com NoSuchPerson  Stop, or I'll ask you again!  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 45 on 3/20/2005 12:46 AM >   <shit stir> Listen. Don't go through doors you know are alarmed. A real explorer wouldn't. </shit stir> Unit calling radio say again? Frozen  Location: Minneapolis, MN Gender: Male Three-D  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 46 on 3/20/2005 1:14 AM >   In a hockey arena the seats we had were fine but behind us people would keep going out these side doors and all this cold winter air kept blowing on us so that night I printed out some signs reading "ALARM WILL SOUND" in bold red text. At the next game I taped them to the offending doors. Lo-and-behold, no more cold breeze! There are a lot of fake signs out there. Urban Exploration Archer  Location: Toronto, ON Gender: Male Imperator Sagittario  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 47 on 3/20/2005 1:16 AM >   Posted by ExKa|iBuR <shit stir> Listen. Don't go through doors you know are alarmed. A real explorer wouldn't. </shit> Good point. There's almost always another way around them if you look hard enough. Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com "We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." Citizen  Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: Male  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 48 on 3/20/2005 5:18 AM >   But then, some doors have no signs but are alarmed. I set one of these off (accidently) at a shopping centre once when I leaned against a set of unused glass double-doors in a store's garden centre while watching an extension to the centre being built. That door was locked, but the bars that secure it to the frame hadn't been thrown, and my weight against it pushed those double doors forward far enough to trigger the concealed magnetic switch. That triggered a local peizo-electrical siren (deafening within the garden centre, though the sound fell off rapidly in the main sales-floor) and lit up a control panel elsewhere in the store to send the staff running. I walked out of there rubbing my ears and looking confused and nobody stopped me, but it was still a very unpleasant surprise. That same shopping centre also has a ton of doors in the employee halls that DO say "Alarm will sound..." etc. and these are almost always propped open while some guy in a Targer uniform smokes a ciggie outside. Go figure. I guess that first door was alarmed more as an anti-shoplifting measure since it opened out of an actual store. I must say, I've always taken a pretty cavalier attitude towards allegedly alarmed doors because I always imagined that the alarm signal (if any) would never actually leave the building in question so the worst that would happen would be a visit from the on-site guards. I'll be more careful in future, though. Also, actually attempting to disarm any type of alarm in all but the most trivial fashion will probably earn you some form of B&E charge should they catch you. greywolf45  Location: U.S.A. Gender: Male Resident UER pain in the ass  |  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 49 on 3/20/2005 6:26 AM >   Posted by Ninjalicious I go through doors marked "alarm will sound" fairly frequently, usually after watching employees and other regulars do the same with no effect. Shane's right, it's very common for them to be lying, disconnected or out of batteries. Ninj http://www.infiltration.org It's just that im not ok with messing with fire alarms. Regular intruder alarms, well, that's another story. "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" Martin Luther King Jr. salt  Location: winta hill, in sommaville Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Disarm Fire Alarms <Reply # 50 on 3/20/2005 8:07 AM >   Posted by greywolf45 It's just that im not ok with messing with fire alarms. Regular intruder alarms, well, that's another story. i agree fire alarms are there for a reason, a good one to i might add. 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