 |
|
|
UER Store
|
|
sweet UER decals:
|
|
|
|
Activity
|
|
807 online
Server Time:
2024-05-16 09:49:09
|
|
|
 danzup3x
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Gender: Male
 |  | The state of UE
< on 9/25/2004 7:06 PM >
|  | | | Wow, are people really "UEing" public places? What's next a "tour" of the local mall? I have seen several posts of people who go to operational garbage dumps, open hopsitals and hotels. What gives? I thought the point of all this was to explore abandoned or forgotten places, not places where thousands of people a day shop and have commerce.
Dan |
|
Burzum
  
Noble Donor
| |  | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 1 on 9/25/2004 7:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by danzup3x
Wow, are people really "UEing" public places? What's next a "tour" of the local mall? I have seen several posts of people who go to operational garbage dumps, open hopsitals and hotels. What gives? I thought the point of all this was to explore abandoned or forgotten places, not places where thousands of people a day shop and have commerce.
|
www.infiltration.org
it's called live infil. hospitals and hotels are not "public places", they are privately owned locations. you may want to do a little reading... there is more to UE than just abandonments.
www.rouskrew.com
because evil won't just do itself. |
|
Mark
  
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 2 on 9/25/2004 7:35 PM >
| | | | some of my most entertaining exsperinces involve live infilitration.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
|
danzup3x
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Gender: Male
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 3 on 9/25/2004 7:40 PM >
| | | | why though? I don't get it
Dan |
|
earthworm
Location: General Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 4 on 9/25/2004 9:24 PM >
| | | | Its one thing to see what a site is like when its abandoned and dead, Its different to see a living breathing site. One of my main tennets has been to just see how things work in the places that you wouldn't think of. What are you in it for?
Tourism, human circulation considered as consumption is fundamentally nothing more than the leisure of going to see what has become banal. |
|
SnArF
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 5 on 9/25/2004 9:48 PM >
| | | | I somewhat agree with Danzup3x. Some people like to do infiltrations of live places. I just prefer drains and abandoned buildings. But some active places can be cool, for example: subway tunnels. Those are awesome. And their active!
|
|
Burzum
Noble Donor
| | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 6 on 9/25/2004 11:54 PM >
| | | | Posted by danzup3x
why though? I don't get it
|
read what ninj has to say on the link i posted. i think he articulates it best.
live infil isn't my thing, but i totally respect those who do it. too hardcore for me - thats why i subscribe to infiltration, so i can live vicariously through the live infiltrations.
it is a valid - and prominent - part of UE.
www.rouskrew.com
because evil won't just do itself. |
|
andrea
Location: Baltimore MD
Gender: Female
Apparently, I am heinous.
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 7 on 9/26/2004 1:03 AM >
| | | | Shouldn't this be in another fourm ? I don't think this was just ment for the US ....
This isn't boot camp and you are not a ninja. But you sure look like an idiot in that outfit.
|
|
RoofTopper
Location: New york city
Gender: Male
Hi
| |  | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 8 on 9/26/2004 2:04 AM >
| | | | This entire thread is messed up. Its still Urban exploration when your doing live stuff. I do both. Drains are active. Hotels are active. I really think you should get your facts straight. Its still Urban Exploration. Dont bother us with this crap.
Adolf was here |
|
A Casual Fellow
I don't like UER.
Location: New York City
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 9 on 9/26/2004 2:41 AM >
| | | | Sometimes you've got to be brutally honest when faced with questions like that... and Adolf's the one to do it.
Subway tunnels and drains are both active.
There's nothing in the name "urban exploration" to suggest that it's all about abandoned buildings. Just by the name you'd think it's about exploring the city; and it is.
|
|
danzup3x
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Gender: Male
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 10 on 9/26/2004 2:49 AM >
| | | | So, by that logic, you want me to run over to the quick-lube place, snap some pics and post them for all to see? It just seems silly to go to places where anyone else can and does go. That's all
Dan |
|
A Casual Fellow
I don't like UER.
Location: New York City
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 11 on 9/26/2004 3:11 AM >
| | | | You seem to be suggesting that urban exploration is going to a place and taking photos of it to show off.
It's different for everyone. I think most people who infiltrate do it for the thrill/curiousity.
Anyway, there's really nothing to question. It's all subjective.
To me, urban exploration includes all of these things: abandoned buildings, infiltration, graffiti, ghost hunting, walking around and simply exploring the city (derives, I believe they're called), etc.
|
|
EatsTooMuchJam
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Squirty "Stickybuns" von Cherrypants
| |  |  | | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 12 on 9/26/2004 5:21 AM >
| | | | Posted by danzup3x
So, by that logic, you want me to run over to the quick-lube place, snap some pics and post them for all to see? It just seems silly to go to places where anyone else can and does go. That's all
|
No. Walking into your local quick-lube place and taking pictures of a public area would not fit most definitions of infiltration. On the other hand if you were to go down to your local hospital and manage to enter a restricted area and take some pictures, that probably would.
What don't you understand about that?
This thread is completely retarded.
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away."
-Tom Waits |
|
r0sie
Resident Locksmith
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 13 on 9/26/2004 1:03 PM >
| | | | I have never found any enjoyment in abandonments...
Many hotels have served fruitfull for steam tunnels, mothballed floors/sections as well as a great supply of fun things to see. On more then one occasion, I have ended up in disused sections of hospitals, employee only areas, loading docks and the like, all great fun to see.
It goes on an on!
Sure, I have been caught, more then once, and its alot more risky then alot of abandonments, none the less, It is great fun. Its not for everyone, I understand that.
rosie
P.s. As a bonus, public transit can usually take you to the front door of such places...
|
|
nd31
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 14 on 9/26/2004 11:45 PM >
| | | | Different people find enjoyment in different things. Going inside places where you shouldn't go, when there's people working there and such gives you a rush. I'd rather go in some historically cool, desolate, decaying place though.
Just like some people like drains, and some people find the idea repulsive.
|
|
IIVQ
 
Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
Back in Urbex!
| | |  | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 15 on 9/27/2004 7:43 AM >
| | | | One of the articles in my journal, "An insight on the Meaning and Thoughts of the Average Urban Explorer", has links to various articles why people Urban Explore. I would suggest you take a look at this, especially the Reasons for UE thread which sums up various reasons why people do UE.
Posted by MatC
3. Transgression – It is an undeniable fact that UE’ers are trespassers. We laugh at warning signs and pass over, around, under and sometimes through barriers installed to keep the general public at bay. Some people find this aspect to be very appealing, sometimes even seeking out the “rush” that comes from hiding/running from security or law enforcement, infiltrating live sites where the possibility of discovery is very high, or simply going somewhere that, legally, they are not supposed to go. This aspect of the hobby, for obvious reasons, tends to (but does not always) appeal to younger explorers as well as to those who dislike authority, who despise frivolous rules, and perhaps even those with a desire to transgress against societal norms, whatever they may be.[...]
|
Tijmen
BTW I'm allways looking for extensions.
Posted by MapMan | 18/9/2005 19:25 | Hedy Lamarr made porn?
Posted by turbozutek | 20/9/2005 2:29 | Dude, educate us! |
|
uair01
Location: Rotterdam.NL
Gender: Male
-=|x|=-
| | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 16 on 9/27/2004 2:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by The "Man"
To me, urban exploration includes all of these things: abandoned buildings, infiltration, graffiti, ghost hunting, walking around and simply exploring the city (derives, I believe they're called), etc.
|
Agreed. I also agree with Ninj's new definition of UE as given here : http://infiltration.org/usufruct/archives/000212.html
To repeat myself - it's all subjective, and it's all about "hunting new sensations in the urban environment":
I'm an old fart and less attracted to the "adrenaline" part and more to the "intellectual, aesthetic" part (that rhymes).
For example - after reading the summaries of all the X-Files episodes I walked my neighbourhood in a pleasantly paranoid state - "What's behind that door?" - "Is that lady only shopping or is she a disguised alien?" - "Why is that piece op paper lying there? What does it mean?" The same neighborhood - but with different mindset. Result : a totally new experience. That's also part of UE for me.
I like to cultivate these "alternative ways of looking". And I'm sure that others can come up with creative ideas that I've never thought about. Come on!
PS: It's like that weird feeling you get in deserted overgrown buildings - but now without the building.
[last edit 9/27/2004 2:15 PM by uair01 - edited 1 times]
"Not to look behind a door is an insult to the door, and the reality it is hiding." |
|
Downtown D-Low Brown
Location: The Ill Noize.
Gender: Male
The game is the game.
| | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 17 on 9/27/2004 4:53 PM >
|  | | | I guess now is as good a time as any to bring this out:
The Death of Urban Exploration
While I agree (broadly) with Ninj on his far-reaching defintion of UE, I believe that most of us can agree on this:
That at least 90%-95% of the content of all UE sites combined comes from significant abandonments or drains of some kind, plus college tunnels.
And it seems to me that the significant abandonments will all be gone soon, given the nature of our society and its demand that everything in it be either producing or consuming something (I hate this consumer society, by the way)all the time. You can forget Vergara's idea of a ruins theme park in Detroit: In a culture that hates decay, decaying things are a crime against society. I think my article covered it as well as I could think at the time.
As for drains, while there will always be the need for them, assuming human society keeps expanding outward with its growing population (which I hope it doesn't, more for environmental rather than UE reasons), they are getting smaller (to maximize efficiency) and are being spread out with sprawl. While I see more promise there, that isn't saying alot coming from me.
And who can forget the Draconian security now being used, at least in the States, though I'm sure it will spread before long. Landmark 6 case anyone?
Security monitoring and technology are increasing faster than we can out-wit it (the recent installation of cameras in Chicago to point out an instance), we must admit that.
While I see brighter lights for the developing world in the future, our time in the sun is on the wane, at least as we know it now.
I see, to quote the sociologist Max Weber, an "iron cage" descending down on us.
And to quote him again, as to what the future holds for us:
"No summer's bloom lays ahead of us, but rather a polar night of icy darkness and hardness."
And this I believe.
~D
[last edit 9/27/2004 4:54 PM by Downtown D-Low Brown - edited 1 times]
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
|
|
Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 18 on 9/27/2004 5:06 PM >
| | | | Your entitled to your opinion but your looking through some dark colored glasses. I have yet to see Draconian security, in any abandoned place. Not to mention all the new security technology will probably never see a abandoned building. It would cost the state far to much to keep that up.
Maybe the day of large complexes seems over, however I might point out as tech gets smaller, more buisness join in. I think you will see a colapse in industrial parks, instead of a company. However fluctuation in markets and new tech will always all for abandoned places.
As for all the cameras, there are ways around everything and always will be. I see a smarter Urban Explorer not a caught one.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
|
Downtown D-Low Brown
Location: The Ill Noize.
Gender: Male
The game is the game.
| | | Re: The state of UE
<Reply # 19 on 9/27/2004 5:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
Your entitled to your opinion but your looking through some dark colored glasses. I have yet to see Draconian security, in any abandoned place. Not to mention all the new security technology will probably never see a abandoned building. It would cost the state far to much to keep that up.
Maybe the day of large complexes seems over, however I might point out as tech gets smaller, more buisness join in. I think you will see a colapse in industrial parks, instead of a company. However fluctuation in markets and new tech will always all for abandoned places.
As for all the cameras, there are ways around everything and always will be. I see a smarter Urban Explorer not a caught one.
|
Meh, if you say so.
However, it'll be very hard in the future to pop open a manhole and climb down it and expect not to get caught with cameras scouring the area and picking up your every move. This holds true for college tunnels as well (see the recent Twin Cities debacle involving the U of Minnesota tunnels and a bunch of punks caught on camera).
As for abandonments, if they don't come down, posting them on-line has already led to some unfortunate run-ins between explorers and those monitoring UE sites. I know some people have been forced to remove content at least, or have dropped out altogether or are at least are very low-key.
I fail to see how this is an improvement for exploring areas not designed for public usage, but time may prove me wrong.
~D
[last edit 9/27/2004 5:16 PM by Downtown D-Low Brown - edited 3 times]
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
|
|
|
|
All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire.
To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site:
UER CONTACT
View Terms of Service |
View Privacy Policy |
Server colocation provided by Beanfield
This page was generated for you in 156 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 741927026 pages have been generated.
|
|
