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UER Forum > Archived UE Main > Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace (Viewed 859 times)
Jester 


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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 20 on 9/14/2004 8:58 PM >
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Posted by Silent Knight


Wonderin' if that's the green-eyed jealousy dragon for 'Batman' stealing Jester's thunder...?

<kiddin'>

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Pfftttt. Did you see the building ? It looks like a built in ladder...
The news story was actually pretty funny. How the police were retracing his exact steps and checking for damage. From him climbing to a ledge ? Maybe if the palace was made of sandstone or balsa wood...


Posted by turbozutek
And this report compiled by the BBC backs up my theory about PR a little;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3654086.stm

Chris...



and to quote from that link...

"Looking behind the surface comedy, the Independent believes the Fathers for Justice campaign is harming its cause."


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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 21 on 9/14/2004 9:04 PM >
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Posted by Silent Knight


Wonderin' if that's the green-eyed jealousy dragon for 'Batman' stealing Jester's thunder...?



Not at all. Jester enjoys the same level of fame in the UK as he always has!

No need to worry Jest. old mate.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 22 on 9/14/2004 9:06 PM >
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Posted by turbozutek


Not at all. Jester enjoys the same level of fame in the UK as he always has!



In other words....zero.



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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 23 on 9/14/2004 9:19 PM >
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Ahhh yes, the sign of a floundering point in any arguement is when the insults come rollin out... I love that. And to call in the reinforcements... Marvelous !

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 24 on 9/14/2004 9:23 PM >
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Posted by Jester
Ahhh yes, the sign of a floundering point in any arguement is when the insults come rollin out... I love that. And to call in the reinforcements... Marvelous !


Note my winking face in my post. And the good Dr is only building on my joke.

To wit: We are kidding. Relax. Smile.

Be a little light hearted about life for a few days Jester... As your name implies... See how it feels!



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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 25 on 9/14/2004 9:33 PM >
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Oh no worries, none of it bothers me, I can argue all day and not have it bother me in the least.

I still stand by my original opinion. Dolts.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 26 on 9/14/2004 9:43 PM >
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Posted by Jester
Oh no worries, none of it bothers me, I can argue all day and not have it bother me in the least.


Go for it !

I'm off out 'sploring.

Chris...



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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 27 on 9/14/2004 10:07 PM >
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I'm off to climb Buckingham Palace wearing nothing but a black t-shirt with a daft message on it.

The Spiderman costume's in the wash.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 28 on 9/15/2004 9:57 AM >
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The best picture I saw of this one on the front page of The Metro the next morning.

Showed, "Batman" with a big smile on his face almost laughing practically starin right at the camera, and pointing at the police and security on the balcony.

Like he was mocking them "Who the hell are these jokers!?" It was a fantastic picture.

I agree with these guys. It's the best way to get their campaign the profile they want. Turning up at Number 10 with 1000 names on a petition aint gonna get them anywhere.

Showing how stoopid and inept the Palace security STILL is and the that the government aren't paying enough attention to domestic issues (only now claiming to focus on them again) is a brilliant way to get your point across. These guys are willing to do this for their kids. The government oughta act on it, or these guys will just make them look stoopid time and time again. Me thinks.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 29 on 9/15/2004 2:43 PM >
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Posted by PlasticDel
The government oughta act on it, or these guys will just make them look stoopid time and time again. Me thinks.


And it's common knowledge that making someone look stupid is the best way to get them on your side...

Dolts.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 30 on 9/15/2004 4:02 PM >
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Posted by Jester


And it's common knowledge that making someone look stupid is the best way to get them on your side...

Dolts.


Previous to the "Fathers for Justice" guys donning their superhero costumes and climbing their way right into the headlines there was zero public awarenwss of the growing problem of fathers rights to access.

Yeah. Sure this is a silly way of doing it. Sure these individuals may not be doing themslves a great many favours.

BUT. What it has done is to get people talking about this problem. Its now on the radar. People have an awareness of the distress caused to dads not able to regulalrly see their kids.

And once issues like this get picked up by the media its only ever a matter of time before those capable of making change start to pay attention - whether its for teh greater good of mankind or to score political points.

People have always had to pull big publicity stunts to raise awareness of their plight...look at the suffragette flinging herself to her death under the Kings horse...

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 31 on 9/15/2004 4:07 PM >
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I don't recall disputing the fact that it gets publicity. read the fine print I said it's not a positive publicity, and in no way will it make the perpetratots of the act seem more upstanding when they stand before a judge saying how responsible they are as fathers...

For some strange reason, the courts tend to look upon law breakers as less than fit parents... regardless of how radical they are in a batman costume...

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 32 on 9/15/2004 4:15 PM >
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All true Jester.

But the bigger picture is that the plight of fathers like these is now on the agenda. Socially if not politically yet.

The sacrifice of a few...

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 33 on 9/15/2004 4:24 PM >
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Posted by Jester
For some strange reason, the courts tend to look upon law breakers as less than fit parents... regardless of how radical they are in a batman costume...


UHmmm.... No they don't. Try using the UK legal system (Which we are discussing in this case) as a reference and forget your own.

Are you aware that over five percent of MSP's (Members of Scottish Parliment) have been ARRESTED protesting at nuclear sites and such like... For what they belive in?

A person is charged - fined (Brought to justice) and then the matter is dropped - the persons' debt to society paid in full.

Someone actually DOING something and making a statement in this country is pretty rare (Apathy is powerfull here!) and should be congratulated.

And you can stamp your foot and scream 'dolts' all you want - that is but your opinion and I'm not going to loose much sleep over it.

Chris...



We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit.
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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 34 on 9/15/2004 4:40 PM >
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I'm glad, I'd hate to be responsible for you losing sleep...

I sincerley doubt your legal system is any more fair than ours in that people in positions of power can often have little issues overlooked, such as protesting arrests, where the typical man on the street gets a more stern treatment. But I also doubt, even more sincerely, that anything I say could ever alter your view. Hell, you could hit in the face with a racist and still call him a great guy, so it would be ludicrous of me to believe you'll change your mind about much of anything...

Anywho... enjoy your day.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 35 on 9/16/2004 8:31 AM >
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I change my mind a great deal.

When someone puts forward a logical argument backed with fact in a polite and calm manner then I give it the upmost of consideration. Even if someone is out and out wrong I'll still consider their position and feelings.

When someone with way too much time on their hands and wearing only a black t-tshirt (With white text) puts forward 'Dolts', and little else; my opinion isn't really swayed one way or the other... Especially when that person is talking as expert on a legal system and country he plainly knows little to nothing about.

Knowledge for all his faults (And I'm not really sure anyone of us denies his faults) said one thing which I didn't at the time agree with or fully understand, but I think I do now.

He said this:

Jeez, Jester is a complete twat, eh ?

He could be right... He could be wrong I don't know you at all Jester and who am I to judge anyways? I think you should know though that a great deal of the time, it seems K was spot on.

Now, I'm off to have that nice day you talked about.

Chris...




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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 36 on 9/16/2004 2:44 PM >
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Posted by turbozutek


When someone with way too much time on their hands and wearing only a black t-tshirt (With white text) puts forward 'Dolts', and little else; my opinion isn't really swayed one way or the other... Especially when that person is talking as expert on a legal system and country he plainly knows little to nothing about.

Knowledge for all his faults (And I'm not really sure anyone of us denies his faults) said one thing which I didn't at the time agree with or fully understand, but I think I do now.



Clearly, turbo, you have difficulties reading. I have said repeatedly to support my assertion, that there is no court that is going to think that breaching the palace dressed as batman is going to make that person look like a better father. If you believe that doing something like, you're farther out of touch than I suspected.

Posted by turbozutek
He said this:

Jeez, Jester is a complete twat, eh ?

He could be right... He could be wrong I don't know you at all Jester and who am I to judge anyways? I think you should know though that a great deal of the time, it seems K was spot on.


Anytime I can be called a name by a racist is a good day in my books.



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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 37 on 9/17/2004 11:30 PM >
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It seems that "Batman's" current girlfriend is also dubious about his suitability:

http://news.scotsm...st.cfm?id=3497952\

Batman 'Dumped by Fed-Up Girlfriend'

By John-Paul Ford Rojas, PA News

Fathers 4 Justice protester ‘Batman’ Jason Hatch has been dumped by his girlfriend after she became fed up with his publicity-seeking stunts, it was reported tonight.

Gemma Polson walked out of the Swindon home she shared with Hatch last month, she told newspapers.

Her ex-boyfriend hit the headlines yesterday when the he staged a five-hour protest on a Buckingham Palace ledge dressed in a Batman costume.

Hatch had previously staged protests for the group at Bristol’s Clifton Suspension Bridge and York Minster.

Ms Polson told newspapers he had made a promise to end the demonstrations. She said: “It was all going too far.”

“Fathers 4 Justice has taken over his life. He had told me he was going to give it all up – but then he goes and does this at Buckingham Palace,” she reportedly said.

Earlier today she told PA News: “A lot of information has gone out about me and Jason that is not true. I am upset. I am going to consult my solicitor.”

Asked if they had separated Ms Polson replied “no”, and put the phone down.
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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 38 on 9/18/2004 7:02 PM >
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Posted by Jester


Clearly, turbo, you have difficulties reading. I have said repeatedly to support my assertion, that there is no court that is going to think that breaching the palace dressed as batman is going to make that person look like a better father.



Perhaps YOU should pickup the ABC easy reader and get practicing Jester, what I actually said is that no court could hold his wacky zany batman antics against him in another case if he has been tried for it already.

And,

Interestngly... To date they have not charged the guy with anything... Seems trespass is a tricky law to uphold in England!

Good news for UE fans there.

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Re: Jester infiltrates Buckingham Palace
<Reply # 39 on 9/18/2004 7:54 PM >
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from an advertising point of view, no publicity is bad publicity and ANY publicity is good publicity. Whether or not the fathers for justice are all over our headlines is trivial, we're on the other side of the pond, the domestic issues won't make much of an impact as it will over there. As has been stated, the idea of the stunt is not to make them look more credible, it's purely to raise awareness. In that sense, clearly these stunts have been VERY successfull, so who cares if the one dude who actually puts himself in the limelight is a dolt? if you ask me, the naked PETA chicks painted up like animals who sit in cages in the middle of winter are much stupider...though more fun to watch.

i think the problem we're running into with this thread is that jester and TZ are arguing two different points, meanwhile they're both right.

TZ is right because, well, TONS of attention, he's totally right, even I've heard of these guys before and I live in Canada.

Jester is right because, whoever volunteered to be Batman probably is a dolt and will be going to court for much more than custody and visitation now.

Can't we all just get along?!?!?!

And let's just keep in mind, if this was a movie the judge would be touched by the father's determination and love for his children and would rule in Robin Williams's favour...

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