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 Kimmo
   
Noble Donor
 |  | Interview in Voima-magazine, 07/04
< on 9/9/2004 2:45 PM >
|  | | | A trip to the gravel area of Kyläsaari:
- I must confess, that this didn't go as planned. 27 year old office worker Kimmo disagrees: "Well now you get a realistic picture, what urban exploration is" Seriously, not this boring?
We are standing at the gravel area of Kyläsaari. The wind is cold and next to us goes a wire-netting fence and on the other side is the old water purification plant and a sign, that warns about camera surveillance. Further away, the recycling center can be seen. "Although we are not getting in, it's still a somekind of an experience to stand here" Yes, yes...
Kimmo is into the urban exploration, or urban adventure, it's a matter of taste which name you use. It's a hobby where people venture into the deserted and abandoned buildings: houses, saws, silos, bunkers. The first place that Kimmo visited, was a villa in Järvenpää. "The doors were locked and windows intact, so I couldn't get in". At first, Kimmo didn't know that the hobby was called urban exploration. He just visited the buildings. About a year ago he finally heard about urban exploration. The hobby besides the adventure aspect, is documenting the history of culture and nearly everyone who's into this hobby, carries camera, which captures the mysterious atmosphere of the places.
- Urban explorer does not destroy the places. One of the reasons why we don't get in now. I suggest of climbing over the fence, but my suggestion doesn't get any response. It would be wrong, if you cannot get into the place with civilized way, the place can be left alone. Kimmo doesn't like the graffitis and condemns the hooliganism. "These kids are the future leaders and they are smashing these places. When they one day get to decide our matters, they still have the urge to destroy everything", Kimmo says. "You cannot protect everything, but something ought to be saved for the future generations". A lot of interesting stuff can be found from these places, but the ethical code of urban explorer prohibits to take anything away from the site. "I get a picture of those items. If I would take something with me, I couldn't keep a straight face when talking something about ethics". So what is that atracts to these place, it's most likely not just the pure desire to document history of culture? "Curiosity" Says Kimmo. He finds new places from newspaper and from books. "Sometimes I just go for a walk and might stumble on to something interesting. Finding the places, is part of the fun". The adventure can also be scary and that's also part of the attraction. "When I take up my camera, everything else however is forgotten". Urban exploration isn't directly about winning one's fears. Kimmo is emphasizing strongly about the documentation and the need to protect places.
- It's obvious, that there's a danger of getting hurt or getting caught in urban exploration. When venturing at the Alakiventie in Myllypuro, the alarms in the abandoned apartment started to ring and the security guards appeared. The neutral and press photographer appearance of Kimmo, fooled the guards. "They just asked that have I seen anything and I said that no and kept on moving". "Urban exploration might be against the law, but it certainly isn't against moral. I would like to see the cop, who's going to write me a ticket for this". Survival and extreme sports are now the big thing. The people who are into those kind of hobbies, are considered the Peter Pan generation, people who do not want to grow up. There's similar features in the people who are into urban exploration. "When people reach a certain age, they want to stay at the sofa" Says Kimmo and admits that he doesn't belong to the people, who spend most of their time on the sofa. "However, I would not call this an extreme sport. Of course visiting abandoned factory in Estonia is an rare experince, but if you go there with the attitude, that this is now an extreme thing, you get killed".
- Kimmo prefers to adventure alone. "It looks too suspicious when there's a large group of people". Like now: interviewee, reporter, photographer and a curious colleague. When Kimmo with his fiancé heads out for a summer holiday, the target is not the beaches of Spain. "We travel to search for new places" Kimmo says laughing. Kimmo's pure guess about people involved in urban exploration is 10 000 outside of Finland and about 100 in Finland. Kimmo hasn't met other urban explorers face to face, but in internet he meets up people regulary in discussion forums. Urban exploration has a long history and you really cannot even measure it. "As long as people have existed, they have wanted to know, what lies on the other side of the hill". Finnish word for this hobby is hard to come by. "Urbaani tutkimusmatka (Urban exploration) in Finnish sounds really stupid and a hobby is even more silly sounding". Here's a job for the linguist.
[last edit 9/9/2004 2:45 PM by Kimmo - edited 1 times]
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Kimmo
Noble Donor
| | Re: Interview in Voima-magazine, 07/04
<Reply # 1 on 9/9/2004 2:49 PM >
| | | | My own comment?
Well, like you can read from the last chapter, I explore alone and when there was three other people with me...my plans just got really confused and I couldn't think straight.
The reason why the fence and a camera surveillance sign in _abandoned place_ stopt us...actually makes me laugh now, but then I just couldn't think straight with so many people babbling there. Last time I explore with anyone else except with my fiancé.
Other than that, I'm happy about the article, although he could have used some other word than adventure and venturing...but that's just because Finnish language doesn't contain a word for UE, which wouldn't sound stupid to my ear.
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Tupsumato
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Interview in Voima-magazine, 07/04
<Reply # 2 on 9/9/2004 4:22 PM >
| | | | I agree that they could have used other words than "adventuring" and "venturing" too. There just isn't a good, short, descriptive translation for the word "exploring" we use while talking about UE in English. Reading about UE in Finnish felt a bit strange.
Too bad that you didn't get in to the water purification plant; could have been better to have the interview in actual abandoned environment. I thought (probably you did the same, right?) that Vuosaari (if that's the place; never heard of Kyläsaari) was a "trusted place" ("luottokohde") that is always open and never turns you down. Probably because every Finnish urban exploration site sans mine features it.
Anyway, quite good writing that is, gives a good impression about UE, even with all adventuring and venturing. I'll try to get a copy of it too.
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Kimmo
Noble Donor
| | Re: Interview in Voima-magazine, 07/04
<Reply # 3 on 9/9/2004 4:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by Tupsumato
Too bad that you didn't get in to the water purification plant; could have been better to have the interview in actual abandoned environment. I thought (probably you did the same, right?) that Vuosaari (if that's the place; never heard of Kyläsaari) was a "trusted place" ("luottokohde") that is always open and never turns you down. Probably because every Finnish urban exploration site sans mine features it.
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Well, perhaps it was good that it was a "failure" so to speak, at least we wont get too many new ones jumping with excitement, when they see that article 
No it wasn't Vuosaari, this one was totally new to me, I hadn't even scouted it first, just seen pictures on Spivey Point. I did told the reporter in advance, that it might be a disappointing trip, but at least you get to see, that not everything is always succesful.
The Finnish language in this sense, sucks.
Harrastus, Tutkimusmatkailu, Seikkailu...shit it sounds like some damn survival game on some island, of the coast of Turku
[last edit 9/9/2004 4:52 PM by Kimmo - edited 1 times]
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Tupsumato
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Interview in Voima-magazine, 07/04
<Reply # 4 on 9/9/2004 5:24 PM >
| | | | Ah, that place.
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Detroit
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Location: Ottawa /Gatineau /Montreal
Gender: Male
4-aminophenol and 2-5% potassium hydroxide
| |  |  | Re: Interview in Voima-magazine, 07/04
<Reply # 5 on 9/9/2004 5:26 PM >
| | | | I think it was a good interview. You got to explain a lot of what UE is all about and that it is always good. As well the fact that you didn't force your way in looks very good in the press.
Well done!
As for exploring alone - exploring with total strangers who have no concept of UE can be a very stressful experience, however exploring with a couple of other real explorers is usually quite fun.
[last edit 9/9/2004 5:27 PM by Detroit - edited 1 times]
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