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Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
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 |  | Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
< on 7/15/2004 7:44 AM >
|  | | | I decided I could get more results by posting publically with this than just the local guys 
I recently found a real basic way to get on an old store near my houses room (part of a group of stores)....and was curious How I could go about Infiltrating the inside!
The roof top consist of no ladder openings that I could see (it was night time), but there are many roof top ac units and candy cane shaped sheetmetal things (in movies these lead to air ducts?).
Anyways....One big question: If I got into an airduct...and dropped down into the old store (huge!)...how would I get back out?
My main concern about using a door would be security systems, and or, one of the still active places next to it...seeing something suspicious.
plus the fact I don't know how to open locked doors
Any Help is appreciated.
There are at least 6 closed buildings right in the same area that was once like a shopping center...the active are jsut spread out in the mix.
Well, I have never done a few of the things I think getting in the building would need:
1. Lockpicking (nor do I know where to get the tools/knowledge)
2. Rapelling (I could get a large rope....but insuring my safety isnt gauranteed)
3. Groups. It would be more fun w/ more people... Maybe after awhile.
I am sure climbing the rope (30-50 ft) would be a tough task if I just dropped in through a duct w/o it being tight. I need to start working on this activity from a tree or something. :-\
More Scouting Needs to be done, as well as getting pictures to get better opinions.
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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Caveman6666
   
Location: NY
| |  | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 1 on 7/15/2004 11:25 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jake616
The roof top consist of no ladder openings that I could see (it was night time), but there are many roof top ac units and candy cane shaped sheetmetal things (in movies these lead to air ducts?).
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These are either air vents or intakes, shaped like that to keep out water or other debris. Try and find out if there's an attic or crawl space up there, from which there may be some way down. It may only have a machine room in one section. Beware - many stores have only an unsupported drop ceiling and you'll have to walk or crawl on the beams.
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El_Gordo_Uno
Location: Wenatchee, Washington
Gender: Male
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| |  | |  | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 2 on 7/15/2004 2:54 PM >
| | | | If this store is remotely active, no ones going to buy the UE angle. You'd be booked on B&E and that would be the end of any chance of ever working at a decent job.
[last edit 7/15/2004 2:54 PM by El_Gordo_Uno - edited 1 times]
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Chainsaw
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Location: Underground, Colorado
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 3 on 7/15/2004 2:55 PM >
| | | | I keep hearing stories about guys dying trying to sneak into stores through ventilation ducts and the like - be careful or be farked.
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
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| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 4 on 7/15/2004 6:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by El_Gordo_Uno
If this store is remotely active, no ones going to buy the UE angle. You'd be booked on B&E and that would be the end of any chance of ever working at a decent job.
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Well, the store is empty for sure. It moved buildings about 7 years ago...but still has lights on inside (security?). Until I can get pictures, imagine an L shaped row of buildings... The upright part of the l would eb the old grocery store (harder for roof access), and the base of the L would be the little stores (upper/lower level as well), the bar, and the department store.
My biggest concern: Climbing up the "candycane"...and dropping into the duct. The thing sits about 3-4 feet high from the roof level....I don't know how much of a drop into the duct. If its anything over 4 feet...I'd rather not try to get out that way (hard to drip round sheet metal)...then I would be trapped.
Another thing is: The back of the buildings has a door for each store...which is probaly why there is no roof hatches. Chanes are though: they are all locked.
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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mgruss
Location: Chicago, Il
Gender: Male
| |  | | | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 5 on 7/16/2004 12:17 AM >
| | | | If the lights are on, they probably have a silent security system, with cop dialer & motion detecors. Battery backup: if power turned off, calls store owner. There isn't any good way to get around these systems.
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mgruss
Location: Chicago, Il
Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 6 on 7/16/2004 12:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jake616
Well, the store is empty for sure. It moved buildings about 7 years ago...but still has lights on inside (security?). Until I can get pictures, imagine an L shaped row of buildings... The upright part of the l would eb the old grocery store (harder for roof access), and the base of the L would be the little stores (upper/lower level as well), the bar, and the department store.
My biggest concern: Climbing up the "candycane"...and dropping into the duct. The thing sits about 3-4 feet high from the roof level....I don't know how much of a drop into the duct. If its anything over 4 feet...I'd rather not try to get out that way (hard to drip round sheet metal)...then I would be trapped.
Another thing is: The back of the buildings has a door for each store...which is probaly why there is no roof hatches. Chanes are though: they are all locked.
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Can't you stick your head in and look? if you can't, how would you get in anyway.
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Asylunt
Location: MPLS
Gender: Male
The Friendly Beer!
| | | | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 7 on 7/16/2004 5:27 AM >
| | | | The more I hear you describe this place, the more I think it's a bad idea to try and enter. Just because it isn't a store anymore doesn't mean it's abandoned, it could very well be storage or used for something else. I suspect if you were caught you'd get arrested for B & E. And as already stated, that can definately affect your chances at securing a decent job in the future.
My opinion, it doesn't sound like it's worth it.
Asylunt
[last edit 7/16/2004 5:27 AM by Asylunt - edited 1 times]
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain |
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andrea
Location: Baltimore MD
Gender: Female
Apparently, I am heinous.
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 8 on 7/16/2004 5:43 AM >
| | | | There was some guy recently that tried to break into a resturant this way a few months back and he got stuck and died. I wouldn't do it.
This isn't boot camp and you are not a ninja. But you sure look like an idiot in that outfit.
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
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| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 9 on 7/16/2004 8:51 AM >
| | | | Alright.... Looks like time to scout soem more and look for an alternative way in! ...I am going to give the vent way a peek though, just as a possibility. I might be able to remove a lwoer piece of the sheetmetal to avoide the higher candy cane part of it.
I am sure it isnt completely abandoned...maybe jsut maintained still for people that are interested in buying or leaseing it. I haent figured that out yet.
Thanks For the input! Pics should be here tomorrow, or sunday! 
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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Chronic
Very Noble Donor
Location: Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
Architecture has only two enemies. Water and stupid men.
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 10 on 7/16/2004 4:23 PM >
| | | | Well good luck & dont get pinched. If you do, there are 2 things that will happen:
1.) The cop that arrests you will go home at the end of the day
2.) You won't.
01:14:16] <Chronic> Conrad...ya gotta go....
[01:14:30] <nightbird> yes Mr. Black, life is funnier than a pocket full of stocks! And...Tim has legal friends in Chicago...we'll get thru this!!! |
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
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| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 11 on 7/16/2004 10:45 PM >
| | | | Yeah, I am checking other places. One I know for a fact has a roof hatch!
How can I open this from the roof? When I seen it from the underside....Nothing of the alarm type appeared. The only problem I can think of for this place is: no outside ladder!
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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ultralazer
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 12 on 7/17/2004 4:26 AM >
| | | | when i read this, all i could think was "why would he want to go to such a great length to get into an abandoned store, which probably only has old empty shelves in it, and have the chance for getting booked for B&E?"
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
-=8=-
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 13 on 7/18/2004 6:23 PM >
| | | | Posted by ultralazer
when i read this, all i could think was "why would he want to go to such a great length to get into an abandoned store, which probably only has old empty shelves in it, and have the chance for getting booked for B&E?"
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No shelves even. The reason for em wanting to get in: Experience Challenges are fun, even more so when there is a risk of getting caught! 
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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SnakeEyes
Gender: Male
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 14 on 7/18/2004 8:24 PM >
| | | | Learn to pick locks.
Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog. |
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
-=8=-
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 15 on 7/19/2004 7:06 AM >
| | | | Posted by SnakeEyes
Learn to pick locks.
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Places to learn this?
tools needed?
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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SnakeEyes
Gender: Male
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 16 on 7/19/2004 11:05 PM >
| | | | Places to learn this: try searching google (there is a wealth of information on the internet about lock bypassing)
Tools needed: Lock picks. Make your own out of hacksaw blades or buy some (you can buy them online without proving your a locksmith).
Pity the poor agnostic dyslexic insomniac; he stays up all night, wondering if there really is a dog. |
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aronburn
Location: Michigan
Gender: Male
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 17 on 8/2/2004 5:46 PM >
| | | | Search Google for the "MIT Guide to Lock picking" its by far the best manual out there oh and I know this is off topic but speaking of MIT has anyone noticed how many cool programs come out of there the MIT black jack team was SWEET!!!
Oh yeah a thought about the repelling and lock picking:
You don’t learn surgery by doing a triple by-pass you learn by reading and class room work plus your first operation isn’t going to be a triple by-pass it will be a tonsillectomy or something. In other words you shouldn’t start an adventure with that many new things to try maybe you should learn lock picking and repelling at like a course or something then when you’re ready to trust your life to you own experience then maybe try some mission imposable shit.
[last edit 8/2/2004 5:53 PM by aronburn - edited 1 times]
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
-=8=-
| | Re: Lake Area Roof Top Exploration/Infiltration
<Reply # 18 on 8/4/2004 10:37 PM >
| | | | Thanks Guys.
Not only would lock picking come in handy is this place If I wanted, but the storage mines near my house. It would save me 20 minutes of walking to get to the "good stuff" in the mines by usign the main gate!
Thanks.
-Jake
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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