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UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Tools for urban exploration (Viewed 1179 times)
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Tools for urban exploration
< on 7/15/2004 1:47 AM >
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I have started making little tools and gadgets and i wanted to know if you think any of them were useful for UE? they are, -wireless audio transmitters and receivers, - long distance audio amlpifiers (those things for hearing conversations 50 metres away), - lie detectors , metl detectors , - electric field disturbance moniter ( picks up large living objects disturbing the electric field in a preselected area), little things to place at junctions in enclused areas (to overcome the fact that audio transmissions wont go throught the thick walls like in drains) and a transmitter detector to find the things once you place them somewhere. There are many more but i cannot remember them.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 1 on 7/15/2004 1:53 AM >
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Very nice stuff. Minus the lie detector. I think your going to get razzed over it. However if you got it then it wouldnt be to bad. However most UE personel arent as gadget oriented as yourself or my own personal desires.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 2 on 7/15/2004 2:57 AM >
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Neat as those sound, I doubt any of them would be useful for UE. It's not about playing ninja or James Bond, it's about exploring. I think you'll find that these toys are more trouble than they're worth to carry around and such.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 3 on 7/15/2004 3:03 AM >
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Yeah, as neat as all this sounds, it'd be wonderful for the gear fetishist but it's a little overboard for your average UE'r... I do have to ask, though, "wireless audio transmitters and receivers"... do you mean radios? "Bugs"?

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 4 on 7/15/2004 3:41 AM >
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Posted by darkism
Neat as those sound, I doubt any of them would be useful for UE. It's not about playing ninja or James Bond, it's about exploring. I think you'll find that these toys are more trouble than they're worth to carry around and such.


I don't see that as being true at all. It's not what UE is about for You, but obviously every single person UEs for their very own reason. Perhaps gadgeteering is what makes it interesting for him, so I say: "Use em all!" They sound like a lot of fun.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 5 on 7/15/2004 4:25 AM >
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Dude, get a flashlight, good ears , good eyes and a half-brain. Thats the bare UE equipment.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 6 on 7/15/2004 5:30 AM >
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Yep here we go. Personally Id love to play with all this. It would make my work on active sites ten times easier. Also I am in UE for the thrill almost more then the viewing of decayed things. I love a challenge and most of all I love to explore. Which deep down in my heart means exploring a place, someones mind, an new toy, or a new way to do things.

Maybe before bashing all this we should look at the possiblities. Sensors so the cops dont walk in behind you undetected. No K9 unit being able to stealthly come up behind you. Yeah its over kill for most of you but hey.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 7 on 7/15/2004 11:04 AM >
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Posted by Mark
Maybe before bashing all this we should look at the possiblities. Sensors so the cops dont walk in behind you undetected. No K9 unit being able to stealthly come up behind you. Yeah its over kill for most of you but hey.


Agreed. I try to bring whatever I think I may need for a particular exploration. As long as it's not hindering my movement too much. I'd much rather bring somehting along and end up not needing it than need it when I don't have it. First aid kit is an excellent example.

Anyways, a lot of those little gizmos sound pretty useful. I wouldn't mind having a electrical field disturbing thingy.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 8 on 7/15/2004 7:50 PM >
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recently, i've been overpacking pretty hardcore; bringing a 30 pound pack when i could get away with boots+camera+flashlight. i figure this way, when i take the canned food and spotlight and lead acid batteries and 4 bottles of water, my 'regular' pack will feel super-light

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 9 on 7/16/2004 2:34 AM >
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I do admit they are overkill for many UE trips but never under estimate the fun factor. The first time i cam in contact with some of these toys i had a ball of a time. On the idea of overpacking most of them are about the size of a mobile phone, although on most trips I would not take most of them. I just find it fun to fiddle around with gadgets and such, oh and about that intelex (sp.?) guy, dont worry, somehow i dont think im gonna use (or just say i use) idiodic things like explosives.... but anyway id probably take a heavy duty flash light, a medical kit, a dog whistle, drink and probably some sort of jumper or overcoat. it really depends on what site i am visiting.

EDIT: oh and your question about the wireless audio transmitters, yes they are the same as "bugs" but I dont call them that because i tend to get in trouble because people instantly link the word to me illegaly listening in on private conversations, i only use them in public spaces and on non critical frequencies( some people for unknown reasons sometimes put them on police chanels where you get in deep deep... feces ) where its fine.
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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 10 on 8/7/2004 9:40 PM >
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What i bring is

-transceiver (if i lose my buddy)
-Gloves
-FLashlight
-Pepper spray

thats about it for now, i need to get a respirator...
do you guys think its ok?


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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 11 on 8/8/2004 8:19 AM >
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Posted by 6 Atomic 6 Garden 6
What i bring is

-transceiver (if i lose my buddy)
-Gloves
-FLashlight
-Pepper spray

thats about it for now, i need to get a respirator...
do you guys think its ok?



Sounds like a good basic kit to me. Although personally I'd leave the pepper spray at home. If you get caught, you're odds of just getting a warning or some other slap on the wrist decrease dramatically if you have any kind of weapon on you. As mentioned numerous times before, a Mag Lite becomes an excellent weapon if you need it to be.

Other than that, the only thing I'd add would be a first aid kit. Just one of those things where if you need it, you'll be very glad you have it. you can pick one up at any camping supply store. They come in all sizes and prices, and it shouldn't be hard to find a decent one for under $15.

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 12 on 8/9/2004 7:59 PM >
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Those really do sound like pretty neat gadgets to have, and could coem in handy..but most explorer's wouldnt have a large use for them unfortunatley.

Here is what most people bring: http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread.asp?fid=1&threadid=3343&currpage=1

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 13 on 9/13/2004 2:29 PM >
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Posted by Paradox_87
I have started making little tools and gadgets


dose anybody know where can i find out how to build these things

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 14 on 9/13/2004 2:57 PM >
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ok - 'jono' - your gonna HAVE to change your screen name, man...hehe


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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 15 on 9/13/2004 5:16 PM >
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Posted by Jono
dose anybody know where can i find out how to build these things


...

I think it's kinda obvious that these were things he was only talking about doing. But I suggest you start with a basic electronics book. Oy!

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 16 on 10/2/2004 11:32 PM >
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The usual kit for me is as follows (I've been doing this for as long as I am old, I started in barns and construction sites as a little kid, along with someone who posts here as well):

Sturdy pants (combats).
sturdy boots or hiking shoes
Flashlight (currently a red filtered Minimag. It works well if you're accustomed to it)
Filter mask (this is probably a good idea in most of the derelict buildings, just because of what you may find in the dust)
Spare filter masks fot the other guys who didn't bring any ("so, when did that raspy cough start, buddy? Oh, after you hit the grain silos, eh?")
headcover (either a black watch cap, or some kind of rag)
gloves
small first aid kit, containing some kind of sterilizing agent, 5mm cordelette for quick sling making, scissors, medical tape and bandages
Pocket knife
Cellphone
water

Occasionnally:
10.5mm nylon core sheathed Rope

that's the standard getup.

Those filter masks have been pretty handy in a few spots.




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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 17 on 10/3/2004 12:49 AM >
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Posted by jumpman
Filter mask

If you mean those white disposable ones... yeah those can help filter out big stuff like coarse dusts, but just make sure you realize they do absolutely nothing to filter out asbestos. Not sure about their effectiveness against stuff like mold spores either. You probably already know, but it's useful info for someone who might not.
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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 18 on 10/4/2004 9:10 PM >
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Perhaps a camera that picks up infrared light. It'd be nice to be able to spot them before they spot you, plus you can take pictures.........

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Re: Tools for urban exploration
<Reply # 19 on 10/8/2004 5:35 PM >
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You know, the tought of a wireless audio transmitter (a bug) dropped somewhere in a location is something that I've pondered before. Not too long ago, I was approached by a gentleman looking to buy the Pines Hotel in Fallsburg, NY (in the LDB, check it out). The man was an engineer, and I am a studying engineer at Rensselaer Polytech. He offered me a job if he were to buy the building, supervising the building's remediation. Of course, as you can tell from the state of the building, the entire deal fell through and I never got the job.

Where am I going with all of this? I was thinking that if I were to have a job at the hotel, and it were to be in a pseudoabandoned state that would still be inviting the explorer, that I would wire subtle cameras as smoke detectors and such. I would never live down the thrill of following an explorer via camera as I remotely turned on/off lights or activated a fire alarm bell.

Hell, even if I didn't work at a location, it would be nifty to install a wireless video transmitter (a-la X10) to spy on the location any time I desired. Couldn't you just picture it? I could pull up in front of the building with a wireless video receiver and be all like, "Alpha team, there is a bogey headed southbound on the 3rd floor corridor in the Essex building," over my 2-way radio. Too fun to think about!

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