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UER Forum > Archived US: Pacific Northwest > scones with a side of bacon, anyone..? (Viewed 748 times)
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scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
< on 8/1/2013 8:35 PM >
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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 1 on 8/2/2013 9:41 PM >
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don't know the guy they interviewed for this article, so not really sure the point of the exposure......just hit me the wrong way.

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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 2 on 8/3/2013 12:04 AM >
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Story Time.

So Astro and I were messing around in the Flour Mill back in May when we heard some noises and saw flashlights in an adjacent room. I immediately took an authoritative stance and shouted "Hey! Come out!" and the two guys immediately shut off their lights and went silent. I let them know I was friendly and wasn't trying to bust them. Turns out they snuck into the mill at 3am the night before (it was around 11am at the time) and were taking ambient sound recordings and location scouting shots for a short film. Coming from a film background, I was interested, so we talked for a bit. They seemed like pretty cool guys, so we exchanged contact information.

I guess I should have been more careful in explaining the code/philosophy behind location preservation, as within a month I was seeing posts on facebook and reddit with pictures of the location, clearly labeled. I immediately hopped on the guy and scolded him, letting him know that in no way did he have permission or consent to film there, and he needed to let his people know what he was doing is considered trespassing and illegal. Obviously when you bring a bunch of random people who don't understand this hobby into a location, they tend to be pretty careless and talk about it with anyone.

So this guy from Seattle Weekly messages me on facebook regarding this story. Here is our correspondence:

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Conversation started May 31

1:51pm

Kelton Sears


u-235,

My name is Kelton Sears—I'm friends with [redacted], a videographer you ran into in the Fisher Mill. I'm writing a story for Seattle Weekly about the abandoned mill, and the graffiti culture surrounding it, but I was wondering if you might be willing to talk to me this weekend as an urban adventurer, so I can get your perspective as well.

Thanks,

Kelton Sears
[email and phone redacted]

June 11

2:57pm

u-235


Hey, sorry it took so long to get back to you.

Not sure what kind of story you're planning on doing -- there is a lot of history surrounding the location and it's quite fascinating to see how it's progressed (or better, decayed) over the past 6 years I've been visiting. However there is sort of a code among urban explorers that is preservation-minded and we try to avoid publicizing locations as it generally leads to tighter security measures, even sometimes to the point of inaccessibility. But perhaps I could offer some info/insight.

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I guess I could attribute my late response to the fact that he never followed-up after that, but perhaps my mention of being fairly restrictive with information gave him the impression that he wouldn't get the story he wanted from me.

Either way, it sucks when stuff like this happens. There was a bit of a debacle when a relatively green member in the PNW forum posted some photos in a similar fashion a few months ago, but as with a lot of new members, there tends to be a breaking in period that involves a few mistakes like this.

At the end of the day the location is decaying exponentially due to mass exposure, but there's not a whole lot we can do about it. After all, it is sort of rite of passage in the local scene, as I don't know many who haven't been there in my group of explorer friends. But more exposure means more negative impact. I want to be mad but at the same time, I feel this type of thing is inevitable for all locations -- especially ones as old and huge as this one.

In the world of urban exploration: shared pictures, articles and even forum posts all contribute to the downfall of locations. We cannot expect or assume people will share the same philosophy in regards to preservation, so any time you show something off, you risk damaging a place that others might have yet to enjoy, or prevent yourself from enjoying it in the future. It really is a double-edged sword, as I like being an armchair explorer and seeing what others have discovered, but have painfully learned the repercussions that go along with sharing the art and stories we create.

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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 3 on 8/3/2013 3:41 PM >
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Unfortunately inevitable.


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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 4 on 8/5/2013 5:36 PM >
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inevitable....yes.

it actually IS kind-of surprising a big story like this has not broken sooner.

and yes, good points you make about any of us sharing any of our experiences online or even in person....the double-edge sword effect.

to me, the sad thing about your story is running into what you think are like-minded, "cool" people.......only to find out later you were wrong about them or their level of discretion or understanding - - I've had that happen a number of times....and it's always so disappointing.



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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 5 on 8/6/2013 3:12 AM >
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When you consider the high profile nature of the location (Visible from most downtown buildings, tons of access, has been used for music videos), getting contacted by a newspaper seems kind of inevitable

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<Reply # 6 on 8/6/2013 10:07 PM >
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Posted by Louie
When you consider the high profile nature of the location (Visible from most downtown buildings, tons of access, has been used for music videos), getting contacted by a newspaper seems kind of inevitable


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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 7 on 8/8/2013 7:13 AM >
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I talked with my friends dad about the place. He remembers as a kid going on a tour. He said he even rode the belt-o-vator. I was pretty amazed. Its too bad they shut the lights and power off and it got trashed.. I haven't been back since they did that. Its just not that interesting to me now. Plus I keep having nightmares of falling through the holes in the top of the grain silos.. Tho I've been wanting to go back to airsoft in there lol. Hawkins is a member here. He's a very gifted photographer!

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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 8 on 11/9/2013 8:00 PM >
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Did anyone notice an increase in visitors after the weekly article? Fun fact; that was Kelton's first story that landed him a job at the weekly.

It's nice to see Komo did a story on the mill since it kinda used to be their old business.
http://www.komonew...2251.html?mobile=y

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Re: scones with a side of bacon, anyone..?
<Reply # 9 on 11/9/2013 8:55 PM >
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I have to agree with the idea that the more the people of Seattle are aware of the potential that lies in the Fisher Mill the more likely it can be saved and re-used akin to the Rainier Brewery. It's a fun playground to everyone here but that's all it is, I'd love to see it brought out of its coma and be a benefit to the city.

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