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 tofutiger
  
Location: College Station, TX
Gender: Male
The pelagic argosy sights land
 |  | Breaking and Entering
< on 3/12/2013 1:52 AM >
|  | | | I was wondering how much (if any) breaking do you guys find permissible. The other day I pushed in a completely beat up window to get inside a building, only to find out it was still in use (very awkward). I ran into some workers there and they didn't know I how I had entered and they just politely told me to leave. Close call. I'm tempted to swear off any sort of "breaking" from now on, but I wonder whether any of you guys have come across instances where some form of "breaking" was necessary/ permissible/ negligible.
"And it was, though more unutterable, like the crumbling away of two little heaps of finest sand, or dust, or ashes, of unequal size, but diminishing together as it were in ratio, if that means anything, and leaving behind them, each in its own stead, the blessedness of absence." |
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Steed
      
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| |  | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 1 on 3/12/2013 2:21 AM >
| | | | Probably at some point they'll discover the damage and wish they hadn't let you go.
I'd have to see the window to know your situation. Personally I wouldn't break a window to get in, but I did once get into an abandoned department store by re-disassembling a broken window that had been taped up again.
There are a lot of reasons you shouldn't damage places to get in, but here are four obvious ones:
-if you're caught it can increase the punishment severely from mere trespassing to B&E
-it allows anyone else to get in easier after you
-it's more often than not unnecessary
-it's just plain not right
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Weapon X
Location: Around
Gender: Male
"You might remember that 'annoyed' is my natural state"
| |  |  | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 2 on 3/12/2013 2:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by tofutiger
I'm tempted to swear off any sort of "breaking" from now on, |
That would be wise...
[last edit 3/12/2013 2:25 AM by Weapon X - edited 1 times]
"Ya know.... if I were born a few decades earlier I'd probably be locked in an asylum instead of sneaking into them" :D |
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voyagerfan99
Location: Tolland County, Connecticut
Gender: Male
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 4 on 3/12/2013 4:05 AM >
| | | | When Addison was still around my friend and I got in by unscrewing the boards from the doors. They had just been re-boarded, so the screws didn't have the liquid nails in the holes yet. However we replaced the boards when we left. That's the extent of my B&E.
[last edit 3/12/2013 4:06 AM by voyagerfan99 - edited 1 times]
Nub Bubbin' Round the UE World |
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diosdelcaos
Location: Louisville, KY
Gender: Male
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 5 on 3/12/2013 4:08 AM >
| | | | Yeah, I wouldn't break anything to get in. If I get to a place, and can't find a reasonable way in that doesn't involve breaking windows/doors, I'd be bummed, but I'd walk away safely.
I did however find this place around me that had one access point: a second story window, wide open and begging to be climbed in.
It's only about 30 feet up, and I just needed a ladder! As if that wouldn't draw massive attention. =P
[last edit 3/12/2013 4:09 AM by diosdelcaos - edited 1 times]
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Rinzler
 
Location: New Jersey
Nomad
| | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 6 on 3/12/2013 5:24 AM >
| | | | If you want to be the first in a place, b & e is mostly always your only choice if permission is out of the question. It is worth it in some instances. Being the first person in a place has its perks.
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Dalmaticus
Location: MSP / Fargo
Gender: Male
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 7 on 3/12/2013 5:27 AM >
| | | | Do not concern yourself with how much B&E UER considers acceptable...worry more about legal ramifications.
All the treasure are belong to me. We got a slat, for that! |
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Tupsumato
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 8 on 3/12/2013 5:30 AM >
| | | | If it's something I can fix without leaving a trace, such as removing a bolt using a wrench, I'm kind of okay with it. If it's any kind of permanent damage, I'm okay with breaking the nose or arm of whoever is breaking into the building. There is a reason why many locations have become as crappy as they are now, and often it has to something do with breaking.
All information and details given in good faith but not guaranteed! |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 9 on 3/12/2013 5:40 AM >
| | | | Posted by Tupsumato
If it's something I can fix without leaving a trace, such as removing a bolt using a wrench, I'm kind of okay with it. If it's any kind of permanent damage, I'm okay with breaking the nose or arm of whoever is breaking into the building. There is a reason why many locations have become as crappy as they are now, and often it has to something do with breaking.
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Yeah, the whole idea of what we're doing is not leaving a trace behind. Breaking something that previously wasn't broken is not cool. We're there to observe entropy, not aid it.
Here's something I'm considering busting in the near future (once the heat has died down):
http://www.daehanm...traintunnel/98.jpg
I figure it can't be too hard to find out where to buy those zip-tie thingies, so that after I cut them off and go and do my thing, I can easily replace them, and the transit authorities will be none the wiser.
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unlighted-zero
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Male
havin a time
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 10 on 3/12/2013 7:19 AM >
| | | | Doing it and talking about it on here is a good way to be nagged, ostracized and probably banned... aside from the obvious legal and moral ramifications. Might want to keep that in mind.
/flail it til ya nail it |
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Rinzler
Location: New Jersey
Nomad
| | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 11 on 3/12/2013 8:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by unlighted-zero
Doing it and talking about it on here is a good way to be nagged, ostracized and probably banned... aside from the obvious legal and moral ramifications. Might want to keep that in mind.
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Why so? If you want to see something untouched, its the way to go.
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Therrin
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
| | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 12 on 3/12/2013 8:47 AM >
| | | | Posted by Steed
I figure it can't be too hard to find out where to buy those zip-tie thingies, so that after I cut them off and go and do my thing, I can easily replace them, and the transit authorities will be none the wiser.
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I have about 400 of those in my garage. A pity you live so far away, I work with around 10 different sizes of those on a regular basis for work. Those ones you showed I have bags of. Check Pan-ty. (no panty joke here sir!)
Posted by diosdelcaos
I did however find this place around me that had one access point: a second story window, wide open and begging to be climbed in.
It's only about 30 feet up, and I just needed a ladder! As if that wouldn't draw massive attention. =P
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If you think no one has ever driven several hundred miles with an extension ladder in the back of their truck... for the express purpose of walking up with it in twilight while the neighbors can see (if they care) so that a person can access a location which can't be accessed any other way;
Then you're fooling yourself. Just saying.
Using a cutting torch to gain access? That's one thing.
Using the same gas welding rig to put the piece back in that you took out, and in stronger condition....that's another.
Sometimes, just because you can discuss something on an open forum, doesn't always mean that you should. Tread lightly, my little hanging participles.
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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diosdelcaos
Location: Louisville, KY
Gender: Male
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 13 on 3/12/2013 11:07 AM >
| | | | Posted by Therrin
If you think no one has ever driven several hundred miles with an extension ladder in the back of their truck... for the express purpose of walking up with it in twilight while the neighbors can see (if they care) so that a person can access a location which can't be accessed any other way;
Then you're fooling yourself. Just saying.
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I'm not saying no one has ever done it, I'm just saying the window faces an alley that I know for a fact is regularly patrolled by police, in the middle of a HIGHLY visible, very high traffic area.
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Therrin
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
| | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 14 on 3/12/2013 11:35 AM >
| | | | no risk, no reward 
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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diosdelcaos
Location: Louisville, KY
Gender: Male
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 15 on 3/12/2013 11:46 AM >
| | | | Yeah, yeah. I know. I'm working on it, lol.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 16 on 3/12/2013 1:18 PM >
| | | | Keep in mind that one doesn't have to do damage for it to be breaking and entering. Some things that we might consider trespassing is generally considered B&E (your jurisdiction may vary).
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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Anaklusmos
Location: Where I want to be, not where I should be.
Gender: Male
I'm a man of many hats.
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 17 on 3/12/2013 9:23 PM >
| | | | Ok, What if its not a window, but a screen? I know of a place with many windows wide open but the screens would need to be removed temporarily or ripped. The windows have been open long enough to allow some mold and moss growth so it would seem that they dont much care about the condition of the structure. What if i brought screen patches and fixed any tear I made?
Fucking Spiders..... |
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secretdestroyers
Location: Baltimore
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 18 on 3/12/2013 11:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Keep in mind that one doesn't have to do damage for it to be breaking and entering. Some things that we might consider trespassing is generally considered B&E (your jurisdiction may vary).
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I can't remember what state it was but B&E was considered "breaking" the premier of a structure by "entering" it. or something to that effect. basically if you were outside you were trespassing if you were inside you could also be charged with B&E even if you walked through a huge hole in the wall or a door way with no door.
SD
F this I"m going exploring! |
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superphoenix
Location: New York City
Gender: Male
There's a madness to my methods
| | Re: Breaking and Entering
<Reply # 19 on 3/12/2013 11:40 PM >
| | | | Of the probably 100+ times I've gone exploring, I have never had to force entry, and I've gotten into some great spots.
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